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**pepperberry farm** · 02-19-2018, 12:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

If a hood is part of the lens, it must be included, and mounted properly.

None of this silly 'hood on backwards in the stored position' stuff.

nuts - am I going to have to go back through a couple of dozen lenses and remeasure?

Racer X 69 · 02-19-2018, 12:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

nuts - am I going to have to go back through a couple of dozen lenses and remeasure?

Yes.

**pepperberry farm** · 02-19-2018, 12:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

Yes.

fine - I'll start that process with the new D FA 50 Macro shows up this weeks...

**monochrome** · 02-19-2018, 12:49 PM - **1 Like**

We already had a judge’s ruling RE: Lens Hoods - detachable hoods not included; self-hoods extended and measured.
Is there a higher Court to which we may appeal for clarification?

FWIW the D FA*70~200/2.8 is massive. I don’t have enough units on hand, especially with hood mounted. I don’t even have a place to store it, much less carry it attached to a camera. But boy, is it fast.

Bicycles. Meh.

**aslyfox** · 02-19-2018, 01:03 PM

It does take a few of the SMU

But it can be measured

Your latest acquisition - Page 82 - PentaxForums.com

---------- Post added 02-19-18 at 14:08 ----------

Originally posted by Racer X 69

If a hood is part of the lens, it must be included, and mounted properly.

None of this silly 'hood on backwards in the stored position' stuff.

I beg to differ

And since I live in a Representative Democracy and I haven't seen any official announcement that made anyone king or queen or emperor

I won't comply

OK ????

BTW, the originator of the SMU agrees with my position

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/14-general-talk/99051-your-latest-acquis...ml#post4205219

**pepperberry farm** · 02-19-2018, 01:12 PM - **1 Like**

quite the rift here...

(eyeroll)

**aslyfox** · 02-19-2018, 01:15 PM

Of course I don'the know of any penalty to be imposed should some one decides to measure however they want to

**pepperberry farm** · 02-19-2018, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

Of course I don'the know of any penalty to be imposed should some one decides to measure however they want to

or with something other than the standard SMU...

Racer X 69 · 02-19-2018, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

We already had a judge’s ruling RE: Lens Hoods - detachable hoods not included; self-hoods extended and measured.

But the hood makes the lens. Just like trim on a house or automobile.

You wouldn't take a picture of your house with the doors and windows removed.

Or your all original MGB without the hood.

Hoods, if included when the lens is aquired, should be either properly mounted as they would be for use, or placed in the composition so as to accentuate the photo.

Never, ever, should a lens be removed from its storage case and displayed or mounted, with the lens hood improperly positioned on the lens.

It just looks tacky.

Originally posted by monochrome

Is there a higher Court to which we may appeal for clarification?

Maybe.

Beyond my paygrade to know that though.

Originally posted by monochrome

Bicycles. Meh.

Bacon.

Racer X 69 · 02-19-2018, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

Of course I don'the know of any penalty to be imposed should some one decides to measure however they want to

The penalty is self imposed. You'll have fewer SMU units to eat afterwards.

Racer X 69 · 02-19-2018, 01:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aslyfox

I beg to differ

And since I live in a Representative Democracy and I haven't seen any official announcement that made anyone king or queen or emperor

I won't comply

OK ????

You may live in a representative democracy, but the forum is not a democracy.

More like a monarchy. The admins, Adam and Ole are the kings. The m0dUlator staFF are the knights who are charged with keeping order and helping damsels in distress, with little, if any compensation for their time and effort.

And everyone else fall into two categories.

The supporting members, akin to the "upper class".

And non supporting members, or Pentaxians, who gain special privileges by virtue of tenure and contribution, or the "middle" and "lower classes".

There is a fairly well thought out and detailed set of rules, or guidelines, that everyone here is expected to abide by. For the most part it is a living set of rules, that changes from time to time. Still, everyone would be well advised to refer to them from time to time, to ensure a harmonious and pleasant environment for all members and guests here.

Sometimes people get a bit crossthreaded with the knights and, or, the king(s). There are mechanisms in place so they can whine about how whatever rule was broken doesn't apply to them. Sometimes they win. Sometimes they loose.

That's how I understand it anyway.

**aslyfox** · 02-19-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Racer X 69

The penalty is self imposed. You'll have fewer SMU units to eat afterwards.

Very good point

Unfortunately I am not allowed to eat any, they just go back into the freezer

Yes there are forum rules

But none that cover this issue of measurement

**monochrome** · 02-19-2018, 02:02 PM - **1 Like**

That doesn’t even border on humorous.

bigted · 02-19-2018, 04:10 PM - **3 Likes**

My SMC Pentax-DA* 300mm F4 ED [IF] SDM was ordered in January and it came on on Friday and I picked it up yesterday. Measured with some very precious but soon to be gone imported genuine UK Jaffa Cakes. Luckily I had enough as it took the better part of 2 boxes. Added to my challenges were 2 six month old kittens who were desperately trying to get in on the treat.

**pepperberry farm** · 02-19-2018, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by bigted

My SMC Pentax-DA* 300mm F4 ED [IF] SDM was ordered in January and it came on on Friday and I picked it up yesterday. Measured with some very precious but soon to be gone imported genuine UK Jaffa Cakes. Luckily I had enough as it took the better part of 2 boxes. Added to my challenges were 2 six month old kittens who were desperately trying to get in on the treat.

well done!

02-19-2018, 01:03 PM	#11690
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	It does take a few of the SMU But it can be measured Your latest acquisition - Page 82 - PentaxForums.com ---------- Post added 02-19-18 at 14:08 ---------- Originally posted by Racer X 69 If a hood is part of the lens, it must be included, and mounted properly. None of this silly 'hood on backwards in the stored position' stuff. I beg to differ And since I live in a Representative Democracy and I haven't seen any official announcement that made anyone king or queen or emperor I won't comply OK ???? BTW, the originator of the SMU agrees with my position https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/14-general-talk/99051-your-latest-acquis...ml#post4205219 Last edited by aslyfox; 02-19-2018 at 01:13 PM.

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02-19-2018, 12:32 PM - 1 Like	#11686
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	Originally posted by Racer X 69 If a hood is part of the lens, it must be included, and mounted properly. None of this silly 'hood on backwards in the stored position' stuff. nuts - am I going to have to go back through a couple of dozen lenses and remeasure?

02-19-2018, 12:42 PM - 1 Like	#11687
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by pepperberry farm nuts - am I going to have to go back through a couple of dozen lenses and remeasure? Yes.

02-19-2018, 12:45 PM - 1 Like	#11688
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	Originally posted by Racer X 69 Yes. fine - I'll start that process with the new D FA 50 Macro shows up this weeks...

02-19-2018, 12:49 PM - 1 Like	#11689
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	We already had a judge’s ruling RE: Lens Hoods - detachable hoods not included; self-hoods extended and measured. Is there a higher Court to which we may appeal for clarification? FWIW the D FA*70~200/2.8 is massive. I don’t have enough units on hand, especially with hood mounted. I don’t even have a place to store it, much less carry it attached to a camera. But boy, is it fast. Bicycles. Meh.

02-19-2018, 01:12 PM - 1 Like	#11691
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	quite the rift here... (eyeroll)

02-19-2018, 01:15 PM	#11692
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Of course I don'the know of any penalty to be imposed should some one decides to measure however they want to

02-19-2018, 01:15 PM	#11693
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	Originally posted by Aslyfox Of course I don'the know of any penalty to be imposed should some one decides to measure however they want to or with something other than the standard SMU...

02-19-2018, 01:31 PM	#11694
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by monochrome We already had a judge’s ruling RE: Lens Hoods - detachable hoods not included; self-hoods extended and measured. But the hood makes the lens. Just like trim on a house or automobile. You wouldn't take a picture of your house with the doors and windows removed. Or your all original MGB without the hood. Hoods, if included when the lens is aquired, should be either properly mounted as they would be for use, or placed in the composition so as to accentuate the photo. Never, ever, should a lens be removed from its storage case and displayed or mounted, with the lens hood improperly positioned on the lens. It just looks tacky. Originally posted by monochrome Is there a higher Court to which we may appeal for clarification? Maybe. Beyond my paygrade to know that though. Originally posted by monochrome Bicycles. Meh. Bacon.

02-19-2018, 01:37 PM	#11695
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by Aslyfox Of course I don'the know of any penalty to be imposed should some one decides to measure however they want to The penalty is self imposed. You'll have fewer SMU units to eat afterwards.

02-19-2018, 01:54 PM - 1 Like	#11696
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by Aslyfox I beg to differ And since I live in a Representative Democracy and I haven't seen any official announcement that made anyone king or queen or emperor I won't comply OK ???? You may live in a representative democracy, but the forum is not a democracy. More like a monarchy. The admins, Adam and Ole are the kings. The m0dUlator staFF are the knights who are charged with keeping order and helping damsels in distress, with little, if any compensation for their time and effort. And everyone else fall into two categories. The supporting members, akin to the "upper class". And non supporting members, or Pentaxians, who gain special privileges by virtue of tenure and contribution, or the "middle" and "lower classes". There is a fairly well thought out and detailed set of rules, or guidelines, that everyone here is expected to abide by. For the most part it is a living set of rules, that changes from time to time. Still, everyone would be well advised to refer to them from time to time, to ensure a harmonious and pleasant environment for all members and guests here. Sometimes people get a bit crossthreaded with the knights and, or, the king(s). There are mechanisms in place so they can whine about how whatever rule was broken doesn't apply to them. Sometimes they win. Sometimes they loose. That's how I understand it anyway.

02-19-2018, 01:55 PM	#11697
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by Racer X 69 The penalty is self imposed. You'll have fewer SMU units to eat afterwards. Very good point Unfortunately I am not allowed to eat any, they just go back into the freezer Yes there are forum rules But none that cover this issue of measurement

02-19-2018, 02:02 PM - 1 Like	#11698
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	That doesn’t even border on humorous.

02-19-2018, 04:10 PM - 3 Likes	#11699
bigted Moderator Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jessica Lake, Whiteshell Provincial Park, or Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,594	My SMC Pentax-DA* 300mm F4 ED [IF] SDM was ordered in January and it came on on Friday and I picked it up yesterday. Measured with some very precious but soon to be gone imported genuine UK Jaffa Cakes. Luckily I had enough as it took the better part of 2 boxes. Added to my challenges were 2 six month old kittens who were desperately trying to get in on the treat.

02-19-2018, 05:38 PM	#11700
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	Originally posted by bigted My SMC Pentax-DA* 300mm F4 ED [IF] SDM was ordered in January and it came on on Friday and I picked it up yesterday. Measured with some very precious but soon to be gone imported genuine UK Jaffa Cakes. Luckily I had enough as it took the better part of 2 boxes. Added to my challenges were 2 six month old kittens who were desperately trying to get in on the treat. well done!