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**BigMackCam** · 06-28-2018, 03:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Surely you're not telling me people can tell the difference in the ~~music~~ sounds they make?

Much as I'm a lover of animals and it pains me to draw this comparison...

Imagine two entirely different cats are roundly perturbed, and make yowling, screeching sounds... I posit that you'd hear the difference in them.

So it is with bagpipes.

**Digitalis** · 06-28-2018, 03:41 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bertwert

get a vintage set with silver and ivory

Doesn't the inclusion of Ivory present a trade issues with certain countries?

bertwert · 06-28-2018, 03:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Digitalis

Doesn't the inclusion of Ivory present a trade issues with certain countries?

Pipes nowadays have imitation ivory (plastic). Vintage sets with real ivory can present problems at borders (and 'professional' pipers with their $10k plus pipes travel a lot), I think you need some sort of certificate. African Blackwood has recently been pronounced endangered possible resulting in issues at borders with legalities, especially since almost every single set of pipes is ABW.

**Canada_Rockies** · 06-28-2018, 04:12 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I LIKE Bagpipes... they are amazing in some music.

Bagpipes can be thrilling. Bagpipes in a building or any closer than 5 miles (8 Km) are less than thrilling.

Marcus Rowland · 06-28-2018, 04:51 PM

Not exactly a new acquisition - a while ago I got a Sigma 24-80 AF for Pentax that I thought wasn't working, but I've just tried it again and it's fine. Not entirely sure how that happened, I may have mixed it up with another lens, but good news anyway.

dbs · 06-28-2018, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Marcus Rowland

Not exactly a new acquisition - a while ago I got a Sigma 24-80 AF for Pentax that I thought wasn't working, but I've just tried it again and it's fine. Not entirely sure how that happened, I may have mixed it up with another lens, but good news anyway.

Hi Marcus
Good news
Maybe you could try it out shooting ( photographing ) some bag pipes since they seem to be the 'in' thing.

Dave

normhead · 06-28-2018, 05:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by dbs

Hi Marcus
Good news
Maybe you could try it out shooting some bag pipes (with really big guns) since they seem to be the 'in' thing.

Dave

Fixed it.

dbs · 06-28-2018, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Fixed it.

I was really trying to be nice Norm but that was my thought also,
.Do they make a bigger enough gun yet ?

Dave

IgorZ · 06-28-2018, 08:40 PM - **1 Like**

Ah the bagpipes.. I must admit that I don't mind the sound so much. After all, bagpipes have nothing on a colicky child... What I wonder though is does it say somewhere that bagpipers have to play the most boring tunes? Only a piper can stand in one place playing the same four notes for hours...

bertwert · 06-28-2018, 09:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by IgorZ

Only a piper can stand in one place playing the same four notes for hours...

I would like to say that we have nine notes on our chanter

bertwert · 06-28-2018, 09:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by IgorZ

What I wonder though is does it say somewhere that bagpipers have to play the most boring tunes?

There are many many types of tunes.

Marches, Slow Marches, Hymns, Laments, Jigs, Strathspeys, Reels, Hornpipes, Piobaireachd, etc...

mee · 06-28-2018, 10:25 PM - **3 Likes**

Whoever invented the term 'bagpipes' wasn't really creative.

Descriptive but not creative.

What if we called more things in the same manner? keyhammerstrings, blowholewindpipe, membraneovertub, etc..

**Cerebum** · 06-28-2018, 11:45 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by bertwert

I would like to say that we have nine notes on our chanter

My Northumbrian small pipes were fully chromatic over three octaves!!!!! Four notes!!! Harrumph

---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 11:48 PM ----------

Originally posted by mee

Whoever invented the term 'bagpipes' wasn't really creative.

Descriptive but not creative.

What if we called more things in the same manner? keyhammerstrings, blowholewindpipe, membraneovertub, etc..

My musical instruments were always called bitsofwoodormetalthatsoundslesslikemusicandmorelikeavendetta

---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 12:00 AM ----------

Originally posted by bertwert

There are many many types of tunes.

Marches, Slow Marches, Hymns, Laments, Jigs, Strathspeys, Reels, Hornpipes, Piobaireachd, etc...

Horses for courses. I find some of the more self indulgent jazz tedious. I can appreciate the skill of the musicians but the music doesn't appeal. Also, in my opinion Rap is simply bad poetry and Sampling is pick and mix plaigurism. There are still great songwriters out therethough. The reason why you hear the same songs is because punters like things that are familiar. Like jazz, aspects of the repertoire can only be enjoyed by those that understand it and even then, take for example the hauntingly beautiful Piobaireachd (pronounced pee-brokh), they aren't always.

LensBeginner · 06-29-2018, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

Pipes nowadays have imitation ivory (plastic). Vintage sets with real ivory can present problems at borders (and 'professional' pipers with their $10k plus pipes travel a lot), I think you need some sort of certificate. African Blackwood has recently been pronounced endangered possible resulting in issues at borders with legalities, especially since almost every single set of pipes is ABW.

Didn't know about ABW... my instrument has pegs and tailpiece of that material.
With bows it's much more complex than with violins... historically the list of materials used for decoration included ivory (at the tip), turtle and whalebone (baleen).

Jean Poitiers · 06-29-2018, 03:02 AM

A few posts here to make sure that the K-1 raffle will happen ...

From the Labo Argentique ... new stuff to play around with. Came with a "thank you" card and a neat lil' sticker, too ...

06-29-2018, 03:02 AM	#12960
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	A few posts here to make sure that the K-1 raffle will happen ... From the *Labo Argentique* ... new stuff to play around with. Came with a "thank you" card and a neat lil' sticker, too ... Last edited by Jean Poitiers; 06-29-2018 at 04:42 AM.

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06-28-2018, 03:39 PM - 1 Like	#12946
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by WPRESTO Surely you're not telling me people can tell the difference in the ~~music~~ sounds they make? Much as I'm a lover of animals and it pains me to draw this comparison... Imagine two entirely different cats are roundly perturbed, and make yowling, screeching sounds... I posit that you'd hear the difference in them. So it is with bagpipes.

06-28-2018, 03:41 PM - 1 Like	#12947
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by bertwert get a vintage set with silver and ivory Doesn't the inclusion of Ivory present a trade issues with certain countries?

06-28-2018, 03:54 PM - 1 Like	#12948
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by Digitalis Doesn't the inclusion of Ivory present a trade issues with certain countries? Pipes nowadays have imitation ivory (plastic). Vintage sets with real ivory can present problems at borders (and 'professional' pipers with their $10k plus pipes travel a lot), I think you need some sort of certificate. African Blackwood has recently been pronounced endangered possible resulting in issues at borders with legalities, especially since almost every single set of pipes is ABW.

06-28-2018, 04:12 PM - 1 Like	#12949
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by UncleVanya I LIKE Bagpipes... they are amazing in some music. Bagpipes can be thrilling. Bagpipes in a building or any closer than 5 miles (8 Km) are less than thrilling.

06-28-2018, 04:51 PM	#12950
Marcus Rowland Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,079	Not exactly a new acquisition - a while ago I got a Sigma 24-80 AF for Pentax that I thought wasn't working, but I've just tried it again and it's fine. Not entirely sure how that happened, I may have mixed it up with another lens, but good news anyway.

06-28-2018, 05:14 PM	#12951
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,565	Originally posted by Marcus Rowland Not exactly a new acquisition - a while ago I got a Sigma 24-80 AF for Pentax that I thought wasn't working, but I've just tried it again and it's fine. Not entirely sure how that happened, I may have mixed it up with another lens, but good news anyway. Hi Marcus Good news Maybe you could try it out shooting ( photographing ) some bag pipes since they seem to be the 'in' thing. Dave

06-28-2018, 05:44 PM - 1 Like	#12952
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by dbs Hi Marcus Good news Maybe you could try it out shooting some bag pipes (with really big guns) since they seem to be the 'in' thing. Dave Fixed it.

06-28-2018, 05:47 PM	#12953
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,565	Originally posted by normhead Fixed it. I was really trying to be nice Norm but that was my thought also, .Do they make a bigger enough gun yet ? Dave

06-28-2018, 08:40 PM - 1 Like	#12954
IgorZ Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,735	Ah the bagpipes.. I must admit that I don't mind the sound so much. After all, bagpipes have nothing on a colicky child... What I wonder though is does it say somewhere that bagpipers have to play the most boring tunes? Only a piper can stand in one place playing the same four notes for hours...

06-28-2018, 09:04 PM - 1 Like	#12955
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by IgorZ Only a piper can stand in one place playing the same four notes for hours... I would like to say that we have nine notes on our chanter

06-28-2018, 09:06 PM - 1 Like	#12956
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by IgorZ What I wonder though is does it say somewhere that bagpipers have to play the most boring tunes? There are many many types of tunes. Marches, Slow Marches, Hymns, Laments, Jigs, Strathspeys, Reels, Hornpipes, Piobaireachd, etc...

06-28-2018, 10:25 PM - 3 Likes	#12957
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Whoever invented the term 'bagpipes' wasn't really creative. Descriptive but not creative. What if we called more things in the same manner? keyhammerstrings, blowholewindpipe, membraneovertub, etc..

06-28-2018, 11:45 PM - 2 Likes	#12958
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,829	Originally posted by bertwert I would like to say that we have nine notes on our chanter My Northumbrian small pipes were fully chromatic over three octaves!!!!! Four notes!!! Harrumph ---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 11:48 PM ---------- Originally posted by mee Whoever invented the term 'bagpipes' wasn't really creative. Descriptive but not creative. What if we called more things in the same manner? keyhammerstrings, blowholewindpipe, membraneovertub, etc.. My musical instruments were always called bitsofwoodormetalthatsoundslesslikemusicandmorelikeavendetta ---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 12:00 AM ---------- Originally posted by bertwert There are many many types of tunes. Marches, Slow Marches, Hymns, Laments, Jigs, Strathspeys, Reels, Hornpipes, Piobaireachd, etc... Horses for courses. I find some of the more self indulgent jazz tedious. I can appreciate the skill of the musicians but the music doesn't appeal. Also, in my opinion Rap is simply bad poetry and Sampling is pick and mix plaigurism. There are still great songwriters out therethough. The reason why you hear the same songs is because punters like things that are familiar. Like jazz, aspects of the repertoire can only be enjoyed by those that understand it and even then, take for example the hauntingly beautiful Piobaireachd (pronounced pee-brokh), they aren't always.

06-29-2018, 01:31 AM	#12959
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by bertwert Pipes nowadays have imitation ivory (plastic). Vintage sets with real ivory can present problems at borders (and 'professional' pipers with their $10k plus pipes travel a lot), I think you need some sort of certificate. African Blackwood has recently been pronounced endangered possible resulting in issues at borders with legalities, especially since almost every single set of pipes is ABW. Didn't know about ABW... my instrument has pegs and tailpiece of that material. With bows it's much more complex than with violins... historically the list of materials used for decoration included ivory (at the tip), turtle and whalebone (baleen).