Your latest acquisition

**Canada_Rockies** · 02-28-2017, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Then why hasn't this happened to the rest of us, or the other people you work with?

I'm a Systems Engineer, so a superficial answer won't do, CR. 😀

There are 1,000's of us whose computers will not run Win 10 even when they are current and not cutting edge. It has happened to numerous users. I am one of the worst cases: Win 7 Pro > Win 8.1 Pro > Win 10 Pro no problem at this point. Win 10 build 1511 - updates for 10 days straight that would not take KB3185614 would not install on an ASUS i7 quad core. Turned that off, and of course further updates would not take. One Monday, the update result was "No operating system found". The physical computer is now running Linux for my son, who says "This thing is wicked fast" and "I don't understand why Microsoft could not update this computer. It is current, but not cutting edge." My wife's Win 10 home loses its printers on updates every other week. Sharon's computer (bookkeeper at church) won't even do Hotmail any more, and the printers are gone. Again. Don't tell me Microsoft is competent. I was Microsoft solid until that trashing of a fine notebook/laptop. Have a look at the class action suits on line. Win 10 is a disaster.

Superficial answer? I am professional: NAFTA Management Consultant, alias database builder. I have built systems with DBMS from Access to SQL Server. All I need is a computer that runs DBMS software. I now have it. A MacBook Air + Parallels 12 + and OEM copy of Windows 7 Pro with updates turned off. There are many things I find awkward with the MacBook/Unix operating system, but the darned thing works. Major updates take 30 minutes with a count down, Minor updates run in the background unnoticeably.

It is not superficial for someone who has been involved with computers since 1971, Microsoft from 1982, and was solidly in their camp until they trashed a perfectly sound computer with incompetence compounded with arrogance. There is no reason to force upgrades.

Don't tell me that ASUS does not know how to build mother boards; they build some of the best. The box that Microsoft killed with incompetent updates was an ASUS P550LA with i7 quad core and 8 Gb RAM that worked just fine until build 1511 of Windows 10. Microsoft cost me a lot of lost billable time and $2,500 for a new box that would run the software I am currently using.

End of discussion. Run Win 10 if you want. Don't make me run it.

---------- Post added 2017-02-28 at 22:25 ----------

Originally posted by tim60

That is a good question. Over many years at work I have found that even when there are supply chain similarities of same supplier of a limited range of configurations of box and the same s/w build, some people seem to break theirs more than others. Not sure if it is them adding and removing stuff, such free download s/w. Or trying to run some piece of s/w that is poorly written and does nasty things.

I do not download crap. The particular problem is specifically driver incompatibility, according to my research.

tim60 · 03-01-2017, 12:11 PM

I did not mean you were downloading bad stuff, just that I had observed that correlation with past colleagues. Does M S make such bad s/w because they are incompetent, or too stingy to pay licence fees to write stuff that is compatible with other people's stuff. E.g. when they could not make their version of Java exactly match the published standard.

**Canada_Rockies** · 03-01-2017, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by tim60

I did not mean you were downloading bad stuff, just that I had observed that correlation with past colleagues. Does M S make such bad s/w because they are incompetent, or too stingy to pay licence fees to write stuff that is compatible with other people's stuff. E.g. when they could not make their version of Java exactly match the published standard.

I was rather upset with M S, for obvious reasons, and over reacted. My apologies.

p38arover · 03-01-2017, 02:17 PM - **1 Like**

Sorry, I haven't bought a new computer...

But I did buy a DA 55-300mm off Gumtree last week, it arrived on Monday. I have yet to do any real testing with it.

I didn't really need it as I have already:

Sigma 100-300mm F4.5 - 6.7 DL
Sigma 70-300 DG Macro
Takumar-A Zoom f4 70-200 Macro
Takumar-F Zoom 70-200mm f4-5.6
Pentax DA* 60-250mm f4 Zoom ED [IF] SDM

Don't tell my wife I have these other lenses................

**Ex Finn.** · 03-01-2017, 05:48 PM - **1 Like**

Bought a new piston for the Jeep...

tim60 · 03-01-2017, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

I was rather upset with M S, for obvious reasons, and over reacted. My apologies.

Apology accepted.

Kevriano · 03-01-2017, 11:05 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by p38arover

Sorry, I haven't bought a new computer...

But I did buy a DA 55-300mm off Gumtree last week, it arrived on Monday. I have yet to do any real testing with it.

I didn't really need it as I have already:

Sigma 100-300mm F4.5 - 6.7 DL
Sigma 70-300 DG Macro
Takumar-A Zoom f4 70-200 Macro
Takumar-F Zoom 70-200mm f4-5.6
Pentax DA* 60-250mm f4 Zoom ED [IF] SDM

Don't tell my wife I have these other lenses................

Lol. At least you now have 55 - 60mm covered....

lesmore49 · 03-01-2017, 11:24 PM - **1 Like**

A Pentax K-1 and a Lexar USB 3.0 Reader. Coming in is a battery grip and spare battery for the K-1. After all this, I'll let my credit card cool down.

p38arover · 03-02-2017, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Kevriano

Lol. At least you now have 55 - 60mm covered....

Yep, along with:

Pentax F SMC 35-105 f4-5.6 Zoom K
Pentax F SMC 35-70 f3.5-4.5 Zoom K
Sigma 18-200 f3.5-6.3 DC Zoom
Sigma 28-300 f3.5-6.3 DL Hyperzoom K (should have been listed above!)

**clackers** · 03-02-2017, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

There are 1,000's of us whose computers will not run Win 10 even when they are current and not cutting edge. It has happened to numerous users. I am one of the worst cases: Win 7 Pro > Win 8.1 Pro > Win 10 Pro no problem at this point. Win 10 build 1511 - updates for 10 days straight that would not take KB3185614 would not install on an ASUS i7 quad core. Turned that off, and of course further updates would not take. One Monday, the update result was "No operating system found". The physical computer is now running Linux for my son, who says "This thing is wicked fast" and "I don't understand why Microsoft could not update this computer. It is current, but not cutting edge." My wife's Win 10 home loses its printers on updates every other week. Sharon's computer (bookkeeper at church) won't even do Hotmail any more, and the printers are gone. Again. Don't tell me Microsoft is competent. I was Microsoft solid until that trashing of a fine notebook/laptop. Have a look at the class action suits on line. Win 10 is a disaster.

Superficial answer?.

Of course I think your answer is superficial.

Why are our millions of computers ... like the one I'm typing on right now, a humble 4Gb dual core Pentium ... not losing their printers, bootability and Hotmail every week like the ones in your family?

Why the lack of results in the Google query "Asus p550la kb3185614"?

You say you're in IT but you couldn't get a patch to install ... so turned patches off? That's especially bad now that like phones, Windows is following a continuous rather than life cycle development process.

IMHO, instead of giving uninformed blanket advice to Kadajawi, who you know nothing about, I'd say stick to databases, Canada_Rockies.

**BigMackCam** · 03-02-2017, 04:37 AM - **2 Likes**

... and on that last post, please folks - lets get back to Your latest acquisitions - the topic of the thread.

Thank you in advance!

fumanchu1 · 03-02-2017, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

... and on that last post, please folks - lets get back to Your latest acquisitions - the topic of the thread.

Thank you in advance!

This seems to have sidetracked a bit so here:

Just bought an acer 32 in 1440 monitor for real cheap because it had a scratch on it (that is now only noticeable in extremely light backgrounds)

Also, please note I am accepting all lense donations still

(I tried lol)

Helios 1984 · 03-03-2017, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

does the term slippery slope have any meaning ???

don't worry, just kidding

really not JUDGING at all

It seems like fate decided that I shall not own a Canon, the shipping lable was created by the parcel never left its home and the seller isn't answering me : / It should have arrived for a week now.

Kevriano · 03-06-2017, 11:20 AM

As my old laptop has never really been fully up to photoshop tasks, it's very slow, it was time to update as I had a nice bonus recently. Just pulled the trigger on this. Should be more than beastly enough to cope.

HP ENVY 17-r107na - V2H38EA#ABU - HP ENVY Notebook 17-r107na Renew, Gaming Laptop, P-C Core? i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz), Nvidia GeForce 950M 4GB, 17.3" Full HD AG LED, 16GB(2x8GB), SSD 512GB, DVDRW, WIFI, Bluetooth, Webcam, Fingerprint, ACA 120W, BATT 6C 62

**Canada_Rockies** · 03-06-2017, 11:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kevriano

As my old laptop has never really been fully up to photoshop tasks, it's very slow, it was time to update as I had a nice bonus recently. Just pulled the trigger on this. Should be more than beastly enough to cope.

HP ENVY 17-r107na - V2H38EA#ABU - HP ENVY Notebook 17-r107na Renew, Gaming Laptop, P-C Core? i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz), Nvidia GeForce 950M 4GB, 17.3" Full HD AG LED, 16GB(2x8GB), SSD 512GB, DVDRW, WIFI, Bluetooth, Webcam, Fingerprint, ACA 120W, BATT 6C 62

Nice - that should have more than enough horsepower!

03-02-2017, 02:15 AM	#9265
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies There are 1,000's of us whose computers will not run Win 10 even when they are current and not cutting edge. It has happened to numerous users. I am one of the worst cases: Win 7 Pro > Win 8.1 Pro > Win 10 Pro no problem at this point. Win 10 build 1511 - updates for 10 days straight that would not take KB3185614 would not install on an ASUS i7 quad core. Turned that off, and of course further updates would not take. One Monday, the update result was "No operating system found". The physical computer is now running Linux for my son, who says "This thing is wicked fast" and "I don't understand why Microsoft could not update this computer. It is current, but not cutting edge." My wife's Win 10 home loses its printers on updates every other week. Sharon's computer (bookkeeper at church) won't even do Hotmail any more, and the printers are gone. Again. Don't tell me Microsoft is competent. I was Microsoft solid until that trashing of a fine notebook/laptop. Have a look at the class action suits on line. Win 10 is a disaster. Superficial answer?. Of course I think your answer is superficial. Why are our millions of computers ... like the one I'm typing on right now, a humble 4Gb dual core Pentium ... not losing their printers, bootability and Hotmail every week like the ones in your family? Why the lack of results in the Google query "Asus p550la kb3185614"? You say you're in IT but you couldn't get a patch to install ... so turned patches off? That's especially bad now that like phones, Windows is following a continuous rather than life cycle development process. IMHO, instead of giving uninformed blanket advice to Kadajawi, who you know nothing about, I'd say stick to databases, Canada_Rockies. Last edited by clackers; 03-02-2017 at 02:41 AM.

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02-28-2017, 10:21 PM	#9256
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by clackers Then why hasn't this happened to the rest of us, or the other people you work with? I'm a Systems Engineer, so a superficial answer won't do, CR. 😀 There are 1,000's of us whose computers will not run Win 10 even when they are current and not cutting edge. It has happened to numerous users. I am one of the worst cases: Win 7 Pro > Win 8.1 Pro > Win 10 Pro no problem at this point. Win 10 build 1511 - updates for 10 days straight that would not take KB3185614 would not install on an ASUS i7 quad core. Turned that off, and of course further updates would not take. One Monday, the update result was "No operating system found". The physical computer is now running Linux for my son, who says "This thing is wicked fast" and "I don't understand why Microsoft could not update this computer. It is current, but not cutting edge." My wife's Win 10 home loses its printers on updates every other week. Sharon's computer (bookkeeper at church) won't even do Hotmail any more, and the printers are gone. Again. Don't tell me Microsoft is competent. I was Microsoft solid until that trashing of a fine notebook/laptop. Have a look at the class action suits on line. Win 10 is a disaster. Superficial answer? I am professional: NAFTA Management Consultant, alias database builder. I have built systems with DBMS from Access to SQL Server. All I need is a computer that runs DBMS software. I now have it. A MacBook Air + Parallels 12 + and OEM copy of Windows 7 Pro with updates turned off. There are many things I find awkward with the MacBook/Unix operating system, but the darned thing works. Major updates take 30 minutes with a count down, Minor updates run in the background unnoticeably. It is not superficial for someone who has been involved with computers since 1971, Microsoft from 1982, and was solidly in their camp until they trashed a perfectly sound computer with incompetence compounded with arrogance. There is no reason to force upgrades. Don't tell me that ASUS does not know how to build mother boards; they build some of the best. The box that Microsoft killed with incompetent updates was an ASUS P550LA with i7 quad core and 8 Gb RAM that worked just fine until build 1511 of Windows 10. Microsoft cost me a lot of lost billable time and $2,500 for a new box that would run the software I am currently using. End of discussion. Run Win 10 if you want. Don't make me run it. ---------- Post added 2017-02-28 at 22:25 ---------- Originally posted by tim60 That is a good question. Over many years at work I have found that even when there are supply chain similarities of same supplier of a limited range of configurations of box and the same s/w build, some people seem to break theirs more than others. Not sure if it is them adding and removing stuff, such free download s/w. Or trying to run some piece of s/w that is poorly written and does nasty things. I do not download crap. The particular problem is specifically driver incompatibility, according to my research.

03-01-2017, 12:11 PM	#9257
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	I did not mean you were downloading bad stuff, just that I had observed that correlation with past colleagues. Does M S make such bad s/w because they are incompetent, or too stingy to pay licence fees to write stuff that is compatible with other people's stuff. E.g. when they could not make their version of Java exactly match the published standard.

03-01-2017, 01:58 PM	#9258
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by tim60 I did not mean you were downloading bad stuff, just that I had observed that correlation with past colleagues. Does M S make such bad s/w because they are incompetent, or too stingy to pay licence fees to write stuff that is compatible with other people's stuff. E.g. when they could not make their version of Java exactly match the published standard. I was rather upset with M S, for obvious reasons, and over reacted. My apologies.

03-01-2017, 02:17 PM - 1 Like	#9259
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Sorry, I haven't bought a new computer... But I did buy a DA 55-300mm off Gumtree last week, it arrived on Monday. I have yet to do any real testing with it. I didn't really need it as I have already: Sigma 100-300mm F4.5 - 6.7 DL Sigma 70-300 DG Macro Takumar-A Zoom f4 70-200 Macro Takumar-F Zoom 70-200mm f4-5.6 Pentax DA* 60-250mm f4 Zoom ED [IF] SDM Don't tell my wife I have these other lenses................

03-01-2017, 05:48 PM - 1 Like	#9260
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Bought a new piston for the Jeep...

03-01-2017, 10:04 PM	#9261
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies I was rather upset with M S, for obvious reasons, and over reacted. My apologies. Apology accepted.

03-01-2017, 11:05 PM - 2 Likes	#9262
Kevriano Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: West Sussex Posts: 472	Originally posted by p38arover Sorry, I haven't bought a new computer... But I did buy a DA 55-300mm off Gumtree last week, it arrived on Monday. I have yet to do any real testing with it. I didn't really need it as I have already: Sigma 100-300mm F4.5 - 6.7 DL Sigma 70-300 DG Macro Takumar-A Zoom f4 70-200 Macro Takumar-F Zoom 70-200mm f4-5.6 Pentax DA* 60-250mm f4 Zoom ED [IF] SDM Don't tell my wife I have these other lenses................ Lol. At least you now have 55 - 60mm covered....

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lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,349	A Pentax K-1 and a Lexar USB 3.0 Reader. Coming in is a battery grip and spare battery for the K-1. After all this, I'll let my credit card cool down.

03-02-2017, 01:34 AM	#9264
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Originally posted by Kevriano Lol. At least you now have 55 - 60mm covered.... Yep, along with: Pentax F SMC 35-105 f4-5.6 Zoom K Pentax F SMC 35-70 f3.5-4.5 Zoom K Sigma 18-200 f3.5-6.3 DC Zoom Sigma 28-300 f3.5-6.3 DL Hyperzoom K (should have been listed above!)

03-02-2017, 04:37 AM - 2 Likes	#9266
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	... and on that last post, please folks - lets get back to Your latest acquisitions - the topic of the thread. Thank you in advance!

03-02-2017, 08:34 AM	#9267
fumanchu1 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 64	Originally posted by BigMackCam ... and on that last post, please folks - lets get back to Your latest acquisitions - the topic of the thread. Thank you in advance! This seems to have sidetracked a bit so here: Just bought an acer 32 in 1440 monitor for real cheap because it had a scratch on it (that is now only noticeable in extremely light backgrounds) Also, please note I am accepting all lense donations still (I tried lol)

03-03-2017, 09:52 PM	#9268
Helios 1984 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Saint-Constant, Québec Posts: 747	Originally posted by Aslyfox does the term slippery slope have any meaning ??? don't worry, just kidding really not JUDGING at all It seems like fate decided that I shall not own a Canon, the shipping lable was created by the parcel never left its home and the seller isn't answering me : / It should have arrived for a week now.

03-06-2017, 11:20 AM	#9269
Kevriano Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: West Sussex Posts: 472	As my old laptop has never really been fully up to photoshop tasks, it's very slow, it was time to update as I had a nice bonus recently. Just pulled the trigger on this. Should be more than beastly enough to cope. HP ENVY 17-r107na - V2H38EA#ABU - HP ENVY Notebook 17-r107na Renew, Gaming Laptop, P-C Core? i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz), Nvidia GeForce 950M 4GB, 17.3" Full HD AG LED, 16GB(2x8GB), SSD 512GB, DVDRW, WIFI, Bluetooth, Webcam, Fingerprint, ACA 120W, BATT 6C 62

03-06-2017, 11:31 AM - 1 Like	#9270
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by Kevriano As my old laptop has never really been fully up to photoshop tasks, it's very slow, it was time to update as I had a nice bonus recently. Just pulled the trigger on this. Should be more than beastly enough to cope. HP ENVY 17-r107na - V2H38EA#ABU - HP ENVY Notebook 17-r107na Renew, Gaming Laptop, P-C Core? i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz), Nvidia GeForce 950M 4GB, 17.3" Full HD AG LED, 16GB(2x8GB), SSD 512GB, DVDRW, WIFI, Bluetooth, Webcam, Fingerprint, ACA 120W, BATT 6C 62 Nice - that should have more than enough horsepower!