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and a story to tell when going through the metal detectors to boot
Well the titanium hip and the screws and clip in the left foot haven't raised any questions.






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and a story to tell when going through the metal detectors to boot
Had my first hip replaced in '04, second more recently and I've gone through quite a few airports with one or both. Some of the metal detectors react, but many, curiously, do not. One attendant told me it had to do with titanium vs steel or iron.
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Well the titanium hip and the screws and clip in the left foot haven't raised any questions.




Wow...those X-rays are something. Looks like you've been emulating Evel Knievel to get that kind of foot work. Hope you're feeling better soon and recover rapidly. If I may ask...how did you get the broken bones ?

My wife broke both her ankles..about 5 years apart. She has similar X-rays. I've asked her over the years if we should make a B+W copy of the X-ray and hang it on the wall. So far...her answer is...no.
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Wow...those X-rays are something. Looks like you've been emulating Evel Knievel to get that kind of foot work. Hope you're feeling better soon and recover rapidly. If I may ask...how did you get the broken bones ?

My wife broke both her ankles..about 5 years apart. She has similar X-rays. I've asked her over the years if we should make a B+W copy of the X-ray and hang it on the wall. So far...her answer is...no.
if you ever have a scan [ x ray or something else ] of your heart or brain or spine

get a copy

then you can prove to others ( in laws ) you do have a heart, a brain and a spine

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Wow...those X-rays are something. Looks like you've been emulating Evel Knievel to get that kind of foot work. Hope you're feeling better soon and recover rapidly.
Thanks.

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If I may ask...how did you get the broken bones ?
They are cut, not broken. The bone in the great toe had a wedge sliced out of it, to help straighten the first row, the screw and clip closer to the ankle forcing the fusion of the joint there, after the alignment and position was restored.


The joint at the second toe was severely dislocated, the bone of the toe up and on top of the bone behind it. So the long bone was sectioned to shorten it, then screwed back together. The joint was separated, the ligaments from the underside brought up and attached to the top of the joint to bring the joint back to a normal position.

As you can see, the bones were drilled from the tip of the toe through part of the bone that was sectioned, and a stainless steel rod inserted to hold things for a few weeks. Notice that rod is bent, very slightly, at the last joint. It should be straight. The evening of the surgery I was getting up to get on the knee scooter to go somewhere, and took a bit of a header. That bend happened then. The doc looked at it the next morning, took the x-rays, wrapped me up and said it wasn't bad enough to warrant him going back in to fix it.

He did say it may make it a bit uncomfortable to remove, when that time comes.





Notice also the plate with 4 screws on the bone that was shortened is bent, and the joint opened slightly.



So this was on some of the documentation I was given post surgery. He told me beforehand that he wanted to avoid the section of the long bone, but found the connective tissues so shortened by so many years of the hammertoe condition that it was needed to facilitate the repositioning of the bones at the joint. He also had not expected to cut the wedge out of the big toe so those items are responsible for the extended surgical time.

1st tarsometatarsal joint fusion.
Modified McBride bunionectomy.
Repair 2nd toe hammertoe with flexor tendon transfer.
2nd metatarsal osteotomy gastroc recession.
Austin akin osteotomy 1st metatarsal.

Scheduled surgical time, 4 hours, actual time 6 hours.




It is to correct this:


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QuoteOriginally posted by aslyfox Quote
if you ever have a scan [ x ray or something else ] of your heart or brain or spine

get a copy

then you can prove to others ( in laws ) you do have a heart, a brain and a spine
Good one. I never thought about that and with some of my relatives ...I could finally prove that I have a brain.

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Thanks.



They are cut, not broken. The bone in the great toe had a wedge sliced out of it, to help straighten the first row, the screw and clip closer to the ankle forcing the fusion of the joint there, after the alignment and position was restored.


The joint at the second toe was severely dislocated, the bone of the toe up and on top of the bone behind it. So the long bone was sectioned to shorten it, then screwed back together. The joint was separated, the ligaments from the underside brought up and attached to the top of the joint to bring the joint back to a normal position.

As you can see, the bones were drilled from the tip of the toe through part of the bone that was sectioned, and a stainless steel rod inserted to hold things for a few weeks. Notice that rod is bent, very slightly, at the last joint. It should be straight. The evening of the surgery I was getting up to get on the knee scooter to go somewhere, and took a bit of a header. That bend happened then. The doc looked at it the next morning, took the x-rays, wrapped me up and said it wasn't bad enough to warrant him going back in to fix it.

He did say it may make it a bit uncomfortable to remove, when that time comes.





Notice also the plate with 4 screws on the bone that was shortened is bent, and the joint opened slightly.



So this was on some of the documentation I was given post surgery. He told me beforehand that he wanted to avoid the section of the long bone, but found the connective tissues so shortened by so many years of the hammertoe condition that it was needed to facilitate the repositioning of the bones at the joint. He also had not expected to cut the wedge out of the big toe so those items are responsible for the extended surgical time.

1st tarsometatarsal joint fusion.
Modified McBride bunionectomy.
Repair 2nd toe hammertoe with flexor tendon transfer.
2nd metatarsal osteotomy gastroc recession.
Austin akin osteotomy 1st metatarsal.

Scheduled surgical time, 4 hours, actual time 6 hours.




It is to correct this:

Good to see you are getting good medical care.

The older I get...and I'm no spring chicken ...I find I now have a number of different specialists and visits to my GP for one thing or the other. When I was in my 20's to early 50's...I rarely had any medical care. Even physicals were not common. Things have changed as I've aged.
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Racer X 69 is having a Tin Man experience. Pretty soon it will be only his heart. The time to worry is when the number of specialists doctors you visit exceeds the number of your digits. YUCK!

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The older I get...and I'm no spring chicken ...I find I now have a number of different specialists and visits to my GP for one thing or the other. When I was in my 20's to early 50's...I rarely had any medical care. Even physicals were not common. Things have changed as I've aged.

Me too.

I did find that two years ago, while recovering from similar surgery to the left foot, I went through physical therapy, then work conditioning, and finally work hardening. The work conditioning was mostly like walking around, balance and repetitive stuff. The work hardening started out where that left off, and became very rigorous at the end. I was in better shape than when I got out of high school, and close to the weight I was then.

The better degree of fitness, coupled with a dramatic change in diet a few years ago, have caused me to feel much better than I expected to at this age. People notice the difference too, commenting on appearance and such.
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Racer X 69 is having a Tin Man experience. Pretty soon it will be only his heart. The time to worry is when the number of specialists doctors you visit exceeds the number of your digits. YUCK!
These days it is only one, podiatrist.

But the gastroenterologist is beginning to pester me for a routine Expolration Southwest again.

Which reminds me of a story by Dave Barry:

Colonoscopy Journal:

I called my friend Andy Sable, a gastroenterologist, to make an appointment for a colonoscopy.

A few days later, in his office, Andy showed me a color diagram of the colon, a lengthy organ that appears to go all over the place, at one point passing briefly through Minneapolis.

Then Andy explained the colonoscopy procedure to me in a thorough, reassuring and patient manner.

I nodded thoughtfully, but I didn't really hear anything he said, because my brain was shrieking, 'HE'S GOING TO STICK A TUBE 17,000 FEET UP YOUR BEHIND!'

I left Andy's office with some written instructions, and a prescription for a product called 'MoviPrep,' which comes in a box large enough to hold a microwave oven. I will discuss MoviPrep in detail later, for now suffice it to say that we must never allow it to fall into the hands of America's enemies.

I spent the next several days productively sitting around being nervous.

Then, on the day before my colonoscopy, I began my preparation. In accordance with my instructions, I didn't eat any solid food that day; all I had was chicken broth, which is basically water, only with less flavor.

Then, in the evening, I took the MoviPrep. You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then you fill it with lukewarm water. (For those unfamiliar with the metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons). Then you have to drink the whole jug.

This takes about an hour, because MoviPrep tastes - and here I am being kind - like a mixture of goat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.

The instructions for MoviPrep, clearly written by somebody with a great sense of humor, state that after you drink it, 'a loose, watery bowel movement may result.'

This is kind of like saying that after you jump off your roof, you may experience contact with the ground.

MoviPrep is a nuclear laxative. I don't want to be too graphic, here, but, have you ever seen a space-shuttle launch? This is pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.

After an action-packed evening, I finally got to sleep.

The next morning my wife drove me to the clinic. I was very nervous. Not only was I worried about the procedure, but I had been experiencing occasional return bouts of MoviPrep spurtage. I was thinking, 'What if I spurt on Andy?' How do you apologize to a friend for something like that?

Flowers would not be enough.

At the clinic I had to sign many forms acknowledging that I understood and totally agreed with whatever the heck the forms said. Then they led me to a room full of other colonoscopy people, where I went inside a little curtained space and took off my clothes and put on one of those hospital garments designed by sadist perverts, the kind that, when you put it on, makes you feel even more naked than when you are actually naked.

Then a nurse named Eddie put a little needle in a vein in my left hand. Ordinarily I would have fainted, but Eddie was very good, and I was already lying down. Eddie also told me that some people put vodka in their MoviPrep.

At first I was ticked off that I hadn't thought of this, but then I pondered what would happen if you got yourself too tipsy to make it to the bathroom, so you were staggering around in full Fire Hose Mode.

You would have no choice but to burn your house.

When everything was ready, Eddie wheeled me into the procedure room, where Andy was waiting with a nurse and an anesthesiologist. I did not see the 17,000-foot tube, but I knew Andy had it hidden around there somewhere. I was seriously nervous at this point.

Andy had me roll over on my left side, and the anesthesiologist began hooking something up to the needle in my hand.

There was music playing in the room, and I realized that the song was 'Dancing Queen' by ABBA. I remarked to Andy that, of all the songs that could be playing during this particular procedure, 'Dancing Queen' had to be the least appropriate.

'You want me to turn it up?' said Andy, from somewhere behind me.

'Ha ha,' I said. And then it was time, the moment I had been dreading for more than a decade. If you are squeamish, prepare yourself, because I am going to tell you, in explicit detail, exactly what it was like.

I have no idea.

Really.

I slept through it.

One moment, ABBA was yelling 'Dancing Queen, feel the beat of the tambourine,' and the next moment, I was back in the other room, waking up in a very mellow mood.

Andy was looking down at me and asking me how I felt. I felt excellent. I felt even more excellent when Andy told me that IT was all over, and that my colon had passed with flying colors.

I have never been prouder of an internal organ.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Racer X 69 Quote
These days it is only one, podiatrist.

But the gastroenterologist is beginning to pester me for a routine Expolration Southwest again.

Which reminds me of a story by Dave Barry:

Colonoscopy Journal:

I called my friend Andy Sable, a gastroenterologist, to make an appointment for a colonoscopy.

A few days later, in his office, Andy showed me a color diagram of the colon, a lengthy organ that appears to go all over the place, at one point passing briefly through Minneapolis.

Then Andy explained the colonoscopy procedure to me in a thorough, reassuring and patient manner.

I nodded thoughtfully, but I didn't really hear anything he said, because my brain was shrieking, 'HE'S GOING TO STICK A TUBE 17,000 FEET UP YOUR BEHIND!'

I left Andy's office with some written instructions, and a prescription for a product called 'MoviPrep,' which comes in a box large enough to hold a microwave oven. I will discuss MoviPrep in detail later, for now suffice it to say that we must never allow it to fall into the hands of America's enemies.

I spent the next several days productively sitting around being nervous.

Then, on the day before my colonoscopy, I began my preparation. In accordance with my instructions, I didn't eat any solid food that day; all I had was chicken broth, which is basically water, only with less flavor.

Then, in the evening, I took the MoviPrep. You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then you fill it with lukewarm water. (For those unfamiliar with the metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons). Then you have to drink the whole jug.

This takes about an hour, because MoviPrep tastes - and here I am being kind - like a mixture of goat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.

The instructions for MoviPrep, clearly written by somebody with a great sense of humor, state that after you drink it, 'a loose, watery bowel movement may result.'

This is kind of like saying that after you jump off your roof, you may experience contact with the ground.

MoviPrep is a nuclear laxative. I don't want to be too graphic, here, but, have you ever seen a space-shuttle launch? This is pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.

After an action-packed evening, I finally got to sleep.

The next morning my wife drove me to the clinic. I was very nervous. Not only was I worried about the procedure, but I had been experiencing occasional return bouts of MoviPrep spurtage. I was thinking, 'What if I spurt on Andy?' How do you apologize to a friend for something like that?

Flowers would not be enough.

At the clinic I had to sign many forms acknowledging that I understood and totally agreed with whatever the heck the forms said. Then they led me to a room full of other colonoscopy people, where I went inside a little curtained space and took off my clothes and put on one of those hospital garments designed by sadist perverts, the kind that, when you put it on, makes you feel even more naked than when you are actually naked.

Then a nurse named Eddie put a little needle in a vein in my left hand. Ordinarily I would have fainted, but Eddie was very good, and I was already lying down. Eddie also told me that some people put vodka in their MoviPrep.

At first I was ticked off that I hadn't thought of this, but then I pondered what would happen if you got yourself too tipsy to make it to the bathroom, so you were staggering around in full Fire Hose Mode.

You would have no choice but to burn your house.

When everything was ready, Eddie wheeled me into the procedure room, where Andy was waiting with a nurse and an anesthesiologist. I did not see the 17,000-foot tube, but I knew Andy had it hidden around there somewhere. I was seriously nervous at this point.

Andy had me roll over on my left side, and the anesthesiologist began hooking something up to the needle in my hand.

There was music playing in the room, and I realized that the song was 'Dancing Queen' by ABBA. I remarked to Andy that, of all the songs that could be playing during this particular procedure, 'Dancing Queen' had to be the least appropriate.

'You want me to turn it up?' said Andy, from somewhere behind me.

'Ha ha,' I said. And then it was time, the moment I had been dreading for more than a decade. If you are squeamish, prepare yourself, because I am going to tell you, in explicit detail, exactly what it was like.

I have no idea.

Really.

I slept through it.

One moment, ABBA was yelling 'Dancing Queen, feel the beat of the tambourine,' and the next moment, I was back in the other room, waking up in a very mellow mood.

Andy was looking down at me and asking me how I felt. I felt excellent. I felt even more excellent when Andy told me that IT was all over, and that my colon had passed with flying colors.

I have never been prouder of an internal organ.
That captures the essence of it in a light way. It's something that words fail and must be experienced personally.
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That captures the essence of it in a light way. It's something that words fail and must be experienced personally.
one of the first ones I had to endure was a little surprising to the medical staff when, during the procedure, I apparently started to recover from the anesthesia

they had to quickly change to another type

[ never was told big the sledge hammer was ]


luckily I have no memory of that
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That captures the essence of it in a light way. It's something that words fail and must be experienced personally.
Other than the brand name of the drain cleaner ...
Eschemic Colitis was the diagnosis.
You don't want to know.
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The weather doesn't make us ill, viruses make us ill.

And I'm already missing work. Nearly three weeks now.

But I got something new!



Stainless screws, a stainless rod (to be removed later), and not one but two Nitinol clips!
What did you drop on your foot?!


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Well the titanium hip and the screws and clip in the left foot haven't raised any questions.




QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
Had my first hip replaced in '04, second more recently and I've gone through quite a few airports with one or both. Some of the metal detectors react, but many, curiously, do not. One attendant told me it had to do with titanium vs steel or iron.
Yep...My left knee is metal as is my right shoulder and the TSA guys don't even want to know about it. I get the pat-down almost every time due to the shoulder looking like a shoulder holster.


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1st tarsometatarsal joint fusion.
Modified McBride bunionectomy.
Repair 2nd toe hammertoe with flexor tendon transfer.
2nd metatarsal osteotomy gastroc recession.
Austin akin osteotomy 1st metatarsal.

Scheduled surgical time, 4 hours, actual time 6 hours.




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OK, I understand. That is one bad looking foot. I'm glad they were able to clean it up for you.


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