Your latest acquisition

**pepperberry farm** · 01-21-2020, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Racer X 69

A 20 volt drill is a fairly recent thing, isn’t it?

aye, purchased yesterday...

D1N0 · 01-21-2020, 07:33 AM - **2 Likes**

Ordered december first, been hanging around in the local mail since december 28th...

**Gorgarath** · 01-21-2020, 08:27 AM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by D1N0

Ordered december first, been hanging around in the local mail since december 28th...

Those are some weird looking cookies...

**luftfluss** · 01-21-2020, 08:49 AM

Back in June I bought a Ryobi 40v battery-powered lawn mower and it's quite good - similar power to a low-end gas one. One 5Ah battery is only good for half the yard, but I'm OK with that.

D1N0 · 01-21-2020, 10:31 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Gorgarath

Those are some weird looking cookies...

My lenses have already eaten three

Racer X 69 · 01-21-2020, 11:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by D1N0

Ordered december first, been hanging around in the local mail since december 28th...

The SMU has a new look.

**pepperberry farm** · 01-21-2020, 12:36 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

The SMU has a new look.

and a really hard shell...

Benz3ne · 01-21-2020, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Gorgarath

Those are some weird looking cookies...

Exactly my first thought too!

Benz3ne · 01-22-2020, 02:03 AM - **5 Likes**

Made way for this beast. Notably larger than the K-70 but not uncomfortably so. Feels good in the hand.
Interesting change of perspective with my current crop of lenses... Everything is so much wider! Looking forward to getting to grips with it.

Edit: It has 45,000 actuations but was a steal and is rugged enough to take that in its stride, along with the few photos I'll put on it intermittently. Looks as though it's had an unmodified Sigma lens attached at some point (doesn't bother me) but everything else is pristine really. No scratches or dusts on the mirror or sensor, no scratches on either screen. Joio.

**pepperberry farm** · 01-22-2020, 08:29 PM - **1 Like**

one Chinon MCM 55mm f1.7 Macro...

**Just1MoreDave** · 01-22-2020, 10:02 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

A 20 volt drill is a fairly recent thing, isn’t it?

Yes and they are pretty impressive. I just got a magazine that tested a bunch of different brands. One of their tests was driving 2 inch long 5/8" lag bolts into a pine 4x4, something I wouldn't even try with any of my old drills. The DeWalt could drill 51 holes with a 1" spade bit through a 2x6. I bet my old drill would give up after 5. Also shorter and lighter than older technology. I believe the DeWalt system allows you the option of using a 60 volt battery if you need it to last longer.

Gary H Perth · 01-23-2020, 12:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

an SMC A 20/2.8

Is the main driver for your purchase your this consistent preference for quality A series lenses?

Or did you find the Tokina 17mm disappointing, so you moved on quickly?

I am a bit jealous, I have never seen a 20mm Pentax A, but I expect it to be better than the Tokina

cprobertson1 · 01-23-2020, 02:38 AM - **4 Likes**

I managed to grab a 1960's lens testing chart for £12 - just hang it up on your wall and it folds out from floor-to-ceiling (almost) - and has focusing marks on the center panel. It also came with four spare panels to put at the corners of your shot.

I also picked up a 1930's AVO light mighter for £1.25.

Can't beat functional vintage kit!

**pepperberry farm** · 01-23-2020, 03:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Gary H Perth

Is the main driver for your purchase your this consistent preference for quality A series lenses?

Or did you find the Tokina 17mm disappointing, so you moved on quickly?

I am a bit jealous, I have never seen a 20mm Pentax A, but I expect it to be better than the Tokina

a bit of both, plus a third option - on first blush, the SMC A 20/2.8 is superior to the Tokina 17mm, enough so that I am considering the sale of the Tokina.... and I do prefer the convenience and quality of the A series lenses...

the third: I was considering one of the three (to begin with) - SMC A 20/2.8, Voigtlander Color Skopar 20/3.5, or a CZJ MC Flektogon 20/2.8 - this price for the SMC A 20 was just too sweet to pass up and probably saved me an additional $350 over the other two lens under consideration...

**WPRESTO** · 01-23-2020, 07:54 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

Yes and they are pretty impressive. I just got a magazine that tested a bunch of different brands. One of their tests was driving 2 inch long 5/8" lag bolts into a pine 4x4, something I wouldn't even try with any of my old drills. The DeWalt could drill 51 holes with a 1" spade bit through a 2x6. I bet my old drill would give up after 5. Also shorter and lighter than older technology. I believe the DeWalt system allows you the option of using a 60 volt battery if you need it to last longer.

I would be surprised if any 20v drill could accept a 60v battery. The batteries for hand tools have different mounting flanges/slots based on voltage so that a 20v battery cannot be attached to an 18v drill, nor can a 20v drill accept an 18v battery, they simply will not fit, made so they won't fit because the wiring in the drill may overheat if the wrong voltage is applied. Also, the voltage should primarily impact power, not longevity. For longer run time you'd want a 20v battery with a higher amperage rating, which almost always means a battery that is physically bigger & heavier, but such batteries are available up to an amperage that will make the drill + battery a really hefty handful.

01-22-2020, 02:03 AM - 5 Likes	#18609
Benz3ne Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Cymru Posts: 2,356	Made way for this beast. Notably larger than the K-70 but not uncomfortably so. Feels good in the hand. Interesting change of perspective with my current crop of lenses... Everything is so much wider! Looking forward to getting to grips with it. Edit: It has 45,000 actuations but was a steal and is rugged enough to take that in its stride, along with the few photos I'll put on it intermittently. Looks as though it's had an unmodified Sigma lens attached at some point (doesn't bother me) but everything else is pristine really. No scratches or dusts on the mirror or sensor, no scratches on either screen. Joio. Last edited by Benz3ne; 01-22-2020 at 02:09 AM.

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01-21-2020, 05:51 AM	#18601
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,676	Originally posted by Racer X 69 A 20 volt drill is a fairly recent thing, isn’t it? aye, purchased yesterday...

01-21-2020, 07:33 AM - 2 Likes	#18602
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Ordered december first, been hanging around in the local mail since december 28th...

01-21-2020, 08:27 AM - 5 Likes	#18603
Gorgarath Total n00b Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 735	Originally posted by D1N0 Ordered december first, been hanging around in the local mail since december 28th... Those are some weird looking cookies...

01-21-2020, 08:49 AM	#18604
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Back in June I bought a Ryobi 40v battery-powered lawn mower and it's quite good - similar power to a low-end gas one. One 5Ah battery is only good for half the yard, but I'm OK with that.

01-21-2020, 10:31 AM - 3 Likes	#18605
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Gorgarath Those are some weird looking cookies... My lenses have already eaten three

01-21-2020, 11:05 AM - 1 Like	#18606
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,068	Originally posted by D1N0 Ordered december first, been hanging around in the local mail since december 28th... The SMU has a new look.

01-21-2020, 12:36 PM - 3 Likes	#18607
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,676	Originally posted by Racer X 69 The SMU has a new look. and a really hard shell...

01-21-2020, 12:44 PM	#18608
Benz3ne Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Cymru Posts: 2,356	Originally posted by Gorgarath Those are some weird looking cookies... Exactly my first thought too!

01-22-2020, 08:29 PM - 1 Like	#18610
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,676	one Chinon MCM 55mm f1.7 Macro...

01-22-2020, 10:02 PM - 2 Likes	#18611
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	Originally posted by Racer X 69 A 20 volt drill is a fairly recent thing, isn’t it? Yes and they are pretty impressive. I just got a magazine that tested a bunch of different brands. One of their tests was driving 2 inch long 5/8" lag bolts into a pine 4x4, something I wouldn't even try with any of my old drills. The DeWalt could drill 51 holes with a 1" spade bit through a 2x6. I bet my old drill would give up after 5. Also shorter and lighter than older technology. I believe the DeWalt system allows you the option of using a 60 volt battery if you need it to last longer.

01-23-2020, 12:56 AM - 1 Like	#18612
Gary H Perth Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Floreat Posts: 623	Originally posted by pepperberry farm an SMC A 20/2.8 Is the main driver for your purchase your this consistent preference for quality A series lenses? Or did you find the Tokina 17mm disappointing, so you moved on quickly? I am a bit jealous, I have never seen a 20mm Pentax A, but I expect it to be better than the Tokina

01-23-2020, 03:52 AM - 1 Like	#18614
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,676	Originally posted by Gary H Perth Is the main driver for your purchase your this consistent preference for quality A series lenses? Or did you find the Tokina 17mm disappointing, so you moved on quickly? I am a bit jealous, I have never seen a 20mm Pentax A, but I expect it to be better than the Tokina a bit of both, plus a third option - on first blush, the SMC A 20/2.8 is superior to the Tokina 17mm, enough so that I am considering the sale of the Tokina.... and I do prefer the convenience and quality of the A series lenses... the third: I was considering one of the three (to begin with) - SMC A 20/2.8, Voigtlander Color Skopar 20/3.5, or a CZJ MC Flektogon 20/2.8 - this price for the SMC A 20 was just too sweet to pass up and probably saved me an additional $350 over the other two lens under consideration...

01-23-2020, 07:54 AM - 1 Like	#18615
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,106	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave Yes and they are pretty impressive. I just got a magazine that tested a bunch of different brands. One of their tests was driving 2 inch long 5/8" lag bolts into a pine 4x4, something I wouldn't even try with any of my old drills. The DeWalt could drill 51 holes with a 1" spade bit through a 2x6. I bet my old drill would give up after 5. Also shorter and lighter than older technology. I believe the DeWalt system allows you the option of using a 60 volt battery if you need it to last longer. I would be surprised if any 20v drill could accept a 60v battery. The batteries for hand tools have different mounting flanges/slots based on voltage so that a 20v battery cannot be attached to an 18v drill, nor can a 20v drill accept an 18v battery, they simply will not fit, made so they won't fit because the wiring in the drill may overheat if the wrong voltage is applied. Also, the voltage should primarily impact power, not longevity. For longer run time you'd want a 20v battery with a higher amperage rating, which almost always means a battery that is physically bigger & heavier, but such batteries are available up to an amperage that will make the drill + battery a really hefty handful.