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02-19-2015, 01:50 PM   #1
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Pentax Si - was it ever produced?

Pentax Si ? Minimally Minimal

Neat concept camera - was it ever made? If not is it time to revive some of the concepts? Why isn't the Q more like this?

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Looks like a concept someone came up with, rather than a design created by Pentax engineers.

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Looks like a concept someone came up with, rather than a design created by Pentax engineers.
Maybe they should look at it. It is interesting that he selected Pentax as the manufacturer to showcase - it does fit their design frame of mind. They seem much more ergonomic focused than many others.
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that is fascinating. Sort of related to what this guy is saying: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/173-general-photography/288229-analysis-camera-industry.html

His main point is that complexity is not good for the camera market i.e. iphone made things simpler, therefore was a huge hit. Cameras should become simpler (at least at the consumer level)

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that is fascinating. Sort of related to what this guy is saying: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/173-general-photography/288229-analysis-camera-industry.html

His main point is that complexity is not good for the camera market i.e. iphone made things simpler, therefore was a huge hit. Cameras should become simpler (at least at the consumer level)
Yes I agree. I am not sure he is RIGHT but I am sure this is an approach that few have taken and an opportunity to lead (or fail).
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QuoteOriginally posted by UncleVanya Quote
this is an approach that few have taken and an opportunity to lead (or fail).
Pentax might be in a good position to try it - failures like the K-01 don't seem to hurt them as badly as it would Canikon
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Nice design exercise. I'm not certain there really is a market for such a camera, at least not
a large one. Most anyone wanting that level of simplicity would be much more keen on the
multi-function capability of a smartphone, which oh by the way takes pictures good enough
to no longer necessitate having a dedicated camera. Most anyone wanting better quality
probably also >thinks< they need more complexity as well and would shy away from such
a simple camera thinking it can't possibly be capable enough to justify its stand alone
existence.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tvdtvdtvd Quote
Nice design exercise.
What he said. These come up every so often. The one I found intriguing was the digital Holga from a few years back.


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Yessir, Give me outstanding image quality, a fantastic viewfinder, let me set the ISO, and give me an exposure compensation dial and I can be happy on most trips I take !

OH Wait ! I still have my ME super and still happy with it after all these years
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So more than 5 years later, Pentax Germany presents this design homework on their FB page. Is there something coming on the horizon?
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Hmmm... As much as minimalism seems appealing, this design gives up too much control of the image taking process. That single "exposure" dial seems to only change the ±exposure compensation setting of some sort of P-mode automagical computerized selection of the shutterspeed and aperture.


Cameras are "complicated" because of all the legitimate dimensions of artistic control such as:
1. Control of the shutterspeed (for blur or freezing motion)
2. Control of the aperture (for greater or lesser DoF )
3. Control of the exposure (for greater or lesser overall lightness/darkness)
4. Control of the contrast (for greater or lesser clipping of whites & blacks )
5. Control of the WB (for accurate whites or intentional mood)
6. Control of saturation (for mood & "pop")
7., 8., 9., ..... control of exposure metering, focus, flash, "filters", playback, etc. etc.

Sure, there's a style of photography that works with P-mode but anything else implies giving the user the dials and buttons to control the artistic process.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yucafrita Quote
So more than 5 years later, Pentax Germany presents this design homework on their FB page. Is there something coming on the horizon?
Probably not. The original was a design concept by blogger and product designer, Andrew Kim and nothing more. This sort of thing is common in product design circles and is equivalent to a portfolio entry. Over the years, there have been posts on this site of multiple concepts bearing the names of most classic camera brands.


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lets hope they dont do something like that. again it would lack something important... a viewfinder... for instance...
and i like minimalistic. thats why i like the K-5 body design over the K-3 one.... but if you camera is dependent on a failure prone touchscreen(wet hands, smeared display, complete fail of touch electronics, etc..)
and seemable no other possibilities available to quickly alter shooting settings... its more of a faishon accessory... than a camera...
if they feel there is a market for it... why not ? produce it.

but I doubt it will sell like hotcake...
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Actually no one has made the digital camera a lot of people would use. It needs to be a digital K1000. It needs physical knobs for aperture, shutter, ISO, af/mf switch. It also needs a real viewfinder either optical or EVF. Simple but not too simple. Fuji may be getting closer to this than most. Look at their sales/profit.

It could be K APS-c size or perhaps smaller. Q size might work if a liitle size increase was allowed for EVF.
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