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mmhhdmj · 07-05-2012, 06:24 PM

what's wrong with your K-R+18-55?? Optically I guess it's almost the same with K30+18-135. Why not spend the $1200 to get something else? portable DA21, portable professional DC, water-proof DC (like TG-1), speakers, anything..

LeDave · 07-05-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by mmhhdmj

what's wrong with your K-R+18-55?? Optically I guess it's almost the same with K30+18-135. Why not spend the $1200 to get something else? portable DA21, portable professional DC, water-proof DC (like TG-1), speakers, anything..

The 18-135 is a better optic than 18-55, more sharper and more focal length to use. For the K-r compared to the K-30, you get a weather-sealed body, one of and if not the best APS-C Sony exmor sensor used in the K-5. Better autofocusing, and more buttons on the body although not as much as a semi-pro, which allows easier transitioning, and the twin dials are extremely useful over the one dial on the K-r.

loco · 07-05-2012, 06:31 PM

Nothing's "wrong" with the K-r. I simply would like to upgrade it. The K-30 has much better high ISO performance, improved image quality, better controls, focus peaking, improved AF (purportedly), weather sealing, etc, etc. I suppose I could just keep the K-r for the rest of my life.

I have no use for an additional camera. I have no use for speakers. Photography has become my passion, and I think I have the right to upgrade the tool I use if I so choose.

(LOL, or what LeDave said.

)

Docrwm · 07-05-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by loco

Nothing's "wrong" with the K-r. I simply would like to upgrade it. The K-30 has much better high ISO performance, improved image quality, better controls, focus peaking, improved AF (purportedly), weather sealing, etc, etc. I suppose I could just keep the K-r for the rest of my life.

I have no use for an additional camera. I have no use for speakers. Photography has become my passion, and I think I have the right to upgrade the tool I use if I so choose.

(LOL, or what LeDave said.

)

And you get to keep the extra batteries from the K-r (doesn't the K-30 use the same model).

loco · 07-05-2012, 06:42 PM

Yep! That's a great point.

Docrwm · 07-05-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by loco

Yep! That's a great point.

I wonder if the AA adapter works too?

loco · 07-05-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

I wonder if the AA adapter works too?

It does!

Anvh · 07-05-2012, 07:32 PM - **1 Like**

You are forgetting the better viewfinder in the K30, quite a major plus as well

Anvh · 07-05-2012, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

And you get to keep the extra batteries from the K-r (doesn't the K-30 use the same model).

More reason to buy a flash

loco · 07-05-2012, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Anvh

You are forgetting the better viewfinder in the K30, quite a major plus as well

You're right!! I have been looking forward to the pentaprism viewfinder! Thanks!

slick100d · 07-06-2012, 05:35 PM

I'm in the same boat with my trust K100D. I can't decide if I should switch from my Sigma 17-70 to the Pentax 18-135.
Decisions, decisions!

Docrwm · 07-06-2012, 05:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by slick100d

I'm in the same boat with my trust K100D. I can't decide if I should switch from my Sigma 17-70 to the Pentax 18-135.
Decisions, decisions!

I've got the 18-135 and love it. The WR is absolutely a must with my K-5 and its reach is very nice for walking about. Do you have the 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC MACRO version of the Sigma? I've been looking at faster zooms lately and the 18-135 really only falls down in its aperture as its a 3.5-5.6. Perhaps not that much of a difference on the K-5 with its higher ISO ability but a bit more of one on the K-x.

wed7 · 07-06-2012, 07:23 PM

even if the DA* 18-80ish will be available in no time, i am pretty sure it will be steep in terms of pricing, much more the weight and size assuming it will have constant large aperture. Moreover, you already have lots of lenses covering that FL (50,55,77,90). Settle with the 18-135.

slick100d · 07-06-2012, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

I've got the 18-135 and love it. The WR is absolutely a must with my K-5 and its reach is very nice for walking about. Do you have the 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC MACRO version of the Sigma? I've been looking at faster zooms lately and the 18-135 really only falls down in its aperture as its a 3.5-5.6. Perhaps not that much of a difference on the K-5 with its higher ISO ability but a bit more of one on the K-x.

That's the one. I've often thought about replacing it with the 16-45 or the 16-50 but couldn't do it. It's a very versatile lens. I was worried about the speed of the 18-135 too but I figure the greater sensitivity of the K30 over the K100 would more than cover the difference.

Docrwm · 07-06-2012, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by slick100d

That's the one. I've often thought about replacing it with the 16-45 or the 16-50 but couldn't do it. It's a very versatile lens. I was worried about the speed of the 18-135 too but I figure the greater sensitivity of the K30 over the K100 would more than cover the difference.

I never have used a K100 but as I understand it the ISO performance of the K5/K-01 and presumably the K-30 is significantly better. I think you'll find that 1600 is easily usable on a regular basis with up to 6400 doable.

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07-05-2012, 06:24 PM	#16
mmhhdmj New Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 17	what's wrong with your K-R+18-55?? Optically I guess it's almost the same with K30+18-135. Why not spend the $1200 to get something else? portable DA21, portable professional DC, water-proof DC (like TG-1), speakers, anything..

07-05-2012, 06:27 PM	#17
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067	Originally posted by mmhhdmj what's wrong with your K-R+18-55?? Optically I guess it's almost the same with K30+18-135. Why not spend the $1200 to get something else? portable DA21, portable professional DC, water-proof DC (like TG-1), speakers, anything.. The 18-135 is a better optic than 18-55, more sharper and more focal length to use. For the K-r compared to the K-30, you get a weather-sealed body, one of and if not the best APS-C Sony exmor sensor used in the K-5. Better autofocusing, and more buttons on the body although not as much as a semi-pro, which allows easier transitioning, and the twin dials are extremely useful over the one dial on the K-r.

07-05-2012, 06:31 PM	#18
loco Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,846 Original Poster	Nothing's "wrong" with the K-r. I simply would like to upgrade it. The K-30 has much better high ISO performance, improved image quality, better controls, focus peaking, improved AF (purportedly), weather sealing, etc, etc. I suppose I could just keep the K-r for the rest of my life. I have no use for an additional camera. I have no use for speakers. Photography has become my passion, and I think I have the right to upgrade the tool I use if I so choose. (LOL, or what LeDave said. )

07-05-2012, 06:35 PM	#19
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by loco Nothing's "wrong" with the K-r. I simply would like to upgrade it. The K-30 has much better high ISO performance, improved image quality, better controls, focus peaking, improved AF (purportedly), weather sealing, etc, etc. I suppose I could just keep the K-r for the rest of my life. I have no use for an additional camera. I have no use for speakers. Photography has become my passion, and I think I have the right to upgrade the tool I use if I so choose. (LOL, or what LeDave said. ) And you get to keep the extra batteries from the K-r (doesn't the K-30 use the same model).

07-05-2012, 06:42 PM	#20
loco Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,846 Original Poster	Yep! That's a great point.

07-05-2012, 06:50 PM	#21
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by loco Yep! That's a great point. I wonder if the AA adapter works too?

07-05-2012, 07:22 PM	#22
loco Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,846 Original Poster	Originally posted by Docrwm I wonder if the AA adapter works too? It does!

07-05-2012, 07:32 PM - 1 Like	#23
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	You are forgetting the better viewfinder in the K30, quite a major plus as well

07-05-2012, 07:33 PM	#24
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by Docrwm And you get to keep the extra batteries from the K-r (doesn't the K-30 use the same model). More reason to buy a flash

07-05-2012, 11:02 PM	#25
loco Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,846 Original Poster	Originally posted by Anvh You are forgetting the better viewfinder in the K30, quite a major plus as well You're right!! I have been looking forward to the pentaprism viewfinder! Thanks!

07-06-2012, 05:35 PM	#26
slick100d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Iowa, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 152	I'm in the same boat with my trust K100D. I can't decide if I should switch from my Sigma 17-70 to the Pentax 18-135. Decisions, decisions!

07-06-2012, 05:50 PM - 1 Like	#27
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by slick100d I'm in the same boat with my trust K100D. I can't decide if I should switch from my Sigma 17-70 to the Pentax 18-135. Decisions, decisions! I've got the 18-135 and love it. The WR is absolutely a must with my K-5 and its reach is very nice for walking about. Do you have the 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC MACRO version of the Sigma? I've been looking at faster zooms lately and the 18-135 really only falls down in its aperture as its a 3.5-5.6. Perhaps not that much of a difference on the K-5 with its higher ISO ability but a bit more of one on the K-x.

07-06-2012, 07:23 PM	#28
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	even if the DA* 18-80ish will be available in no time, i am pretty sure it will be steep in terms of pricing, much more the weight and size assuming it will have constant large aperture. Moreover, you already have lots of lenses covering that FL (50,55,77,90). Settle with the 18-135.

07-06-2012, 09:06 PM	#29
slick100d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Iowa, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 152	Originally posted by Docrwm I've got the 18-135 and love it. The WR is absolutely a must with my K-5 and its reach is very nice for walking about. Do you have the 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC MACRO version of the Sigma? I've been looking at faster zooms lately and the 18-135 really only falls down in its aperture as its a 3.5-5.6. Perhaps not that much of a difference on the K-5 with its higher ISO ability but a bit more of one on the K-x. That's the one. I've often thought about replacing it with the 16-45 or the 16-50 but couldn't do it. It's a very versatile lens. I was worried about the speed of the 18-135 too but I figure the greater sensitivity of the K30 over the K100 would more than cover the difference.

07-06-2012, 09:19 PM	#30
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by slick100d That's the one. I've often thought about replacing it with the 16-45 or the 16-50 but couldn't do it. It's a very versatile lens. I was worried about the speed of the 18-135 too but I figure the greater sensitivity of the K30 over the K100 would more than cover the difference. I never have used a K100 but as I understand it the ISO performance of the K5/K-01 and presumably the K-30 is significantly better. I think you'll find that 1600 is easily usable on a regular basis with up to 6400 doable.

K-30 dilemma

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