Originally posted by eddie1960 but the lens he is comparing in FL is the 16-50 Sony, not the same animal,
Unfortunately Pentax doesn't kit with the 16-50 2.8 and if they did it would be stupidly expensive based on the new pricing. I bet you could get a kit from a dealer with the tamron 17-50 2.8 for about the same (if you had an actual B&M to go in and negotiate with),
the a77 kit is not even a comparative model. a77 in canada is 1499,
the A57 kit with the 18-135 is more the comparison model. priced at 999 for what is the lesser model in pretty much all aspects
A65 with the 18-135 is 1199 A65 with the 16-50 is 1599,
a77 with the 18-135 is 1799 and 2149 with the 16-50
A65 level doesn't exist in the Pentax world (yet) a77 level will be the K5 replacement,
Right now a K5 18-135 kit is 1499 so less than the a77 with similar kit, lesser sensor, but better across the board with better sensor performance according to DXO. Megapickles ain't everything
But a lens is everything. Trust me you can put a Top class lens on a sensor from 5 years ago and get stunning results or you can put a 200 euro lens on a D800 and get crappy results. You are not going to be able to tell me when you see A77/1650 pictures that those are from a sensor that has more visible noise at iso 3200 (in lab tests). But im not here to bash anything, I really do love pentax. But i think they good use a better zoom aroung the 500 USD range.