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12-17-2012, 09:18 AM   #31
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If anybody who upgraded from a K-x to the K-30, using old slowpoke DA55-300 for sports can tell me if they get better results, I would appreciate it.
Altopiet,
I upgraded from a K-7 to a K-30 and could find little difference on the DA 55-300 but wonderful improvement on my 17-50 and 170-500. And the ISO ability wow! - super camera!
I think its a lens problem - I'll know soon as I'am receiving a Tammy and Sigma 70-300 sometime this week.
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If anybody who upgraded from a K-x to the K-30, using old slowpoke DA55-300 for sports can tell me if they get better results, I would appreciate it.
I have used the DAL 55-300 slowpoke for sports with mixed results . Outdoor with good light you can get pretty good results . Any drop in the light conditions or tough indoor conditions the results are disappointing . If you shoot ot just under 200mm wide open you can squeak out a few keepers . Any of us with children in sports always seem to struggle with the current pentax lens line up . Why cant pentax make a 70-200 2.8 HSM IF ? Seems to me that is a huge gap in the line that would satisfy many users . And while Pentex is at it ,price it competitivley with sigma and tamron !
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Being a new K-30 owner, I wanted to give it a try for one of the hardest sports to shoot: basketball in a dimly lit gym.

To do so I shot a few games the past few days of local summer basketball league for my news website. These players are a combination of high school, former community college and smaller college stars, all the way up to Division One athletes and players playing professionally in the Europe. The speed and explosiveness of these players takes some getting used to, and you really have to stay focused and know how to anticipate the action to get good shots (I'm still getting better at this.)

To aid me in my experiment, I also rented the very nice Sigma 70-200 EXII f/2.8 with the very quick HSM motor. The HSM motor is very quick by the way, and a great combo with the K-30. I've never really shot with Canon or Nikon, especially their higher end lenses, but the autofocus to me for this combo was very quick and very snappy. Any mistakes or missed shots were more on me than on the camera IMO. I also brought my DA*16-50 which also performed well, and I actually ended up using that more than the 70-200 to capture more of the action near the basket.

Speaking of user error, it took me about a game and a half to figure out the settings on the K-30 in a way that wouldn't cost me shots. I settled on Expanded AF (very handy) + selectable point AF + Continuous Focus + Continuous Focus Priority set to FPS over accuracy. I struggled in the beginning before I found this combo but after I hit that I was getting a lot of keepers.

As for whether the K-30 was better for the K-5 for this type of shooting, I haven't done a scientific test or anything but I would concur with deadwolfbones that the K-30 AF is snappier, more sure of itself. It reminds me a little of my PZ-1P in the way that it snaps into focus and stays there.

Could I have used the K-5 for this shooting, too? Yes. In fact, I did. I was very pleased with the K-30's performance, though, considering the light also wasn't the greatest, especially for being a mid-entry level camera.

Note: I'm not a spray and pray shooter, and I don't think the K-30 would be good for this type of style. If the K-3 comes out with a big buffer and improves on the ground made with the K-30, though, I could see that being a genuinely good sports shooting camera.

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It really looks like number 25 is a grown man, well over 25. Playing with guys much younger. I guess its just the way it looks.

Whoops you state it above. I give him lots of credit.

Great pics BTW.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffw Quote
I have used the DAL 55-300 slowpoke for sports with mixed results . Outdoor with good light you can get pretty good results . Any drop in the light conditions or tough indoor conditions the results are disappointing . If you shoot ot just under 200mm wide open you can squeak out a few keepers . Any of us with children in sports always seem to struggle with the current pentax lens line up . Why cant pentax make a 70-200 2.8 HSM IF ? Seems to me that is a huge gap in the line that would satisfy many users . And while Pentex is at it ,price it competitivley with sigma and tamron !
You should try the 60-250 F4. A bit longer range, very quick SDM (and not so unreliable) from what I hear. The F4 vs F2.8 isn't going to kill you, especially since the k-5 has very good high ISO, and the lens is quite sharp at F4.

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QuoteOriginally posted by georgecape Quote
Altopiet,
I upgraded from a K-7 to a K-30 and could find little difference on the DA 55-300 but wonderful improvement on my 17-50 and 170-500. And the ISO ability wow! - super camera!
I think its a lens problem - I'll know soon as I'am receiving a Tammy and Sigma 70-300 sometime this week.
cheers
Hi George, I've also bought the K-30 since my last post, and as I still have my K-x, I must agree I don't see any difference with the 55-300 on the two cameras. Unfortunately it'll have to do for now, as funds for anything else is non-existent at the moment
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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffw Quote
I have used the DAL 55-300 slowpoke for sports with mixed results . Outdoor with good light you can get pretty good results . Any drop in the light conditions or tough indoor conditions the results are disappointing . If you shoot ot just under 200mm wide open you can squeak out a few keepers . Any of us with children in sports always seem to struggle with the current pentax lens line up . Why cant pentax make a 70-200 2.8 HSM IF ? Seems to me that is a huge gap in the line that would satisfy many users . And while Pentex is at it ,price it competitivley with sigma and tamron !
I agree, the 55-300 is a nice focal length for most of my needs, if only it was a bit faster
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I agree, the 55-300 is a nice focal length for most of my needs, if only it was a bit faster
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I can now say that the sigma 100-300 (cheap ebay $60) is far better in focussing etc on my K-30 than the 55-300 but I cant say about the sharpness (you be the judge)
Of about 30 to 40 shots it only hunted once when the sails were far away (point focus setting).
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George, it seems the lens gives a nice rendering, and it is nice and sharp! Did you have to do a lot of PP on the shot? I'll have to keep my eyes open for a nice second hand copy, if I can get the other half's permission. I went a bit over my budget when I got the K-30

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Awesome info! I'm new and Plan to use my K-30 to shoot similar action I appreciate all the tech comparisons.
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George, it seems the lens gives a nice rendering, and it is nice and sharp! Did you have to do a lot of PP on the shot? I'll have to keep my eyes open for a nice second hand copy, if I can get the other half's permission. I went a bit over my budget when I got the K-30
Yes, I do a lot of PPing but only because I enjoy the process - I am forever amazed at the variety of results one can get.
However I do overdo it often and lots of criticism from the family.

What may interest you is on this batch I switched to spot metering due to a prev situation where I kept on getting the back lighting being metered and thought I'd try spot.
No, its very erratic and I'am right back to medium which is 99% good and only needs (sometimes) a slight adjustment in LR4.
With my K-7 I always needed +1 or +2 even, which I found difficult to obtain good exposure.
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I've been shooting hockey with my K-30 for just over a month and a half now. Not a lot of games, slow part of the season, but Even shooting at F2.8-4 with the rink I normally work in being poorly lit, I need to keep the ISO a little high. 1600 usually. Which leaves me kind of stuff. The small pictures, editing for color come out okay
Hockey Weekend in Korea, Part 2 - Eurohockey.com

you can see some there, they are grainy of course. That small, I don't need to use noiseware, however I can't really justify trying to shoot at 3200 or 6400 to really stop the action as I find it still comes out way too grainy. I think if the rink was better lit like some of the other rinks, I could get away with dropping it down to 800 or even 400 which would give me higher IQ and still be able to stop the action. I'm satisfied with the ability of the camera, I find the 1600 on the K-30 comes out looking like the 800 on my KM. Which was about as high as I wanted to push that. 1600 on the KM just looked awful.
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