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10-28-2012, 06:52 AM   #1
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K-30 Vs Canon 60D

So there.

http://sortable.com/cameras/Pentax-K-30-vs-Canon-EOS-60D#conclusion

I must admit, the swiveling screen is incredibly useful.

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But it makes for a bigger camera...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Professor Batty Quote
But it makes for a bigger camera...
And another thing to break. Doesn't mention water resistance at all as far as I can see. How long will the Canon 60D last in a rainstorm?
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ISO Performance on the 60D is not good at 1600+ compared to the K30

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Professor Batty - Put a K30 and a Fuji HS10 on the bench in front of you - as I'm doing here....

The HS10 has a 3" tilt-only LCD - 90-degrees up, 45-degrees down. This camera is 2.1mm wider than the K30.

However - if it didn't have the row of 5 functions buttons to the left of the LCD - ISO-AE-AF-AF/CSM-WB - it could be at least 5mm narrower than the K30 - and still have a 3" tilting LCD. To the right of the LCD, both cameras have 4 buttons and the 4-way pad. The HS10's 'rear' (1 only) 'e-dial' is on the top deck.

The tilting LCD makes the camera much easier to use, for macro - holding the camera near ground, above head, so on - on tripod - and when the light-angle makes the K30's LCD unusable, particularly when on tripod.

The idea that modern technology couldn't make a tilt-joint watertight - particularly when you look at the K30's flimsy battery door, which is meant to be at least 'WR' - is indeed quaint... Perhaps Pentax could ask the US-Navy about making articulated joints watertight - if not quite necessarily 1,000ft underwater....

(attrib. Fuji Australia) - (Yes, that's an 'e-dial' to the right of the Modes dial, on a P&S.)


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QuoteOriginally posted by exwintech Quote
Professor Batty - Put a K30 and a Fuji HS10 on the bench in front of you - as I'm doing here....

The HS10 has a 3" tilt-only LCD - 90-degrees up, 45-degrees down. This camera is 2.1mm wider than the K30.

However - if it didn't have the row of 5 functions buttons to the left of the LCD - ISO-AE-AF-AF/CSM-WB - it could be at least 5mm narrower than the K30 - and still have a 3" tilting LCD. To the right of the LCD, both cameras have 4 buttons and the 4-way pad. The HS10's 'rear' (1 only) 'e-dial' is on the top deck.

The tilting LCD makes the camera much easier to use, for macro - holding the camera near ground, above head, so on - on tripod - and when the light-angle makes the K30's LCD unusable, particularly when on tripod.

The idea that modern technology couldn't make a tilt-joint watertight - particularly when you look at the K30's flimsy battery door, which is meant to be at least 'WR' - is indeed quaint... Perhaps Pentax could ask the US-Navy about making articulated joints watertight - if not quite necessarily 1,000ft underwater....

(attrib. Fuji Australia) - (Yes, that's an 'e-dial' to the right of the Modes dial, on a P&S.)


Regards, Dave.
The HS10 is not a meaningful comparison for the K-30 and the movable screen because its a bridge camera with an integrated lens. That can make the dimensions from the optics to the sensor much more malleable than in a dSLR with a fixed distance.
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Docrwm - Okay, your point is valid.... Actually - on seeing the K30 compared with the Canon 60D - I was being a little tongue-in-cheek sarky... So did a comparo with the HS10 - 10Mpix 1/2.3" sensor and all.....

(Although with full PCM Stereo at 48,000Hz, the HS10 bags the K30's Mono 32,000Hz, which has nothing to do with having an integrated lens or not.)

A more buyer-level comparison for the K30 in Canons, is the 650D / T4i.... Where I am, the 60D costs $120.00 more than the K30 - while the 650D and K30 are within $20.00 in price.

The 60D is a mid-mid level Canon - it has pentaprism, top-deck LCD, and 1/8000th shutter. (5.3fps)
The 650D is a lower-mid-level Canon - it has pentamirror, no top-deck LCD, and 1/4000th shutter. (5.0fps)

At buyer-level comparison - the K30 has pentaprism, no top-deck LCD, and 1/6000th shutter. (6.0fps) Well ahead of the 650D.

However, the 650D does have a fully articulated 3" LCD, 1,040,000 dots - which likely appeals to those who want video as a "big feature" of their DSLR - to go with just on twice the K30's video bitrates - and full bitrate PCM stereo with mic socket.

Video aside - the K30's overall features and abilities make the 650D look a little sad, though. (Though the 650D can use IS/SR and Timer along with AEB - the Manual shows how to do it...)

Maybe we should wait until the big Forum Comparo, K30 with 650D, so on, is out - then comment further...

Regards, Dave.
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