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12-16-2012, 08:32 AM   #1
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K-30 and external flash: Metz 50/52 Sigma 610 SG or?

Is anyone using a Metz 50 or 52 or sigma 610 super flash with the K-30? If so what are your thoughts and suggestions? any better choices for full feature flashes?

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12-17-2012, 06:01 AM   #2
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I am using the Metz 50 with my K-30. Currently, I am using it in manual mode because the TTL option is not yet compatible with the K-30 (exposures are underexposed). I knew this when I ordered it, but I found out (from this forum) that Metz are aware of the problem and are currently working on a firmware update - so I bought it anyway. Apart from the rather flimsy on/off button and user-unfriendly battery compartment - the positioning of the compartment door makes it difficult to insert/remove the batteries - I have no complaints. I use it with a diffuser and the shots are nearly always perfectly exposed. Of course, using manual mode is not ideal due to the variable lighting conditions and subject distance, but I am optimistic that Metz will issue a firmware update in the not too distant future.

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12-17-2012, 06:17 AM   #3
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Thanks Charlie. That picture looks good. Metz has a major advantage with the update yourself capability. I am also wondering if they will have the new 52 compatible with the K-30. I saw a newcompatibility chart on their site updated in November and it shows the K-30 and the 50 as being tested but under the 52 while it shows as being tested for other pentax models there is no indication for the K-30. Guess I wil wait and see if there are any post Christmas sales to push me over the edge. Too late to get anything in time for Holiday shooting anyway as there is nothing in stock locally.

Again thanks foe the reply.

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QuoteOriginally posted by bcorson Quote
I saw a newcompatibility chart on their site updated in November
Please send me a link. I couldn't find it.

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http://www.amplis.com/downloads/Metz/Metz%20_camera_compatibility_November_2012.pdf

I had trouble finding it again too and was mad at myself for not having saved a copy. This time I did. Also i was looking at this on my netbook before and guess print was too small for me as I missed what the chart really was saying about K-30 and the 52 . . . its compatible ! Now the question is the extra $50 price tag worth it. Guess I will do some reading of detailed specs. First blush difference is touch screen and wireless capability I think.

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QuoteOriginally posted by bcorson Quote
First blush difference is touch screen and wireless capability I think.
I'm not sure which wireless differences you're citing. The Sigma Super is capable of off-camera wireless and can act as a controller for another flash. The Metz 50 cannot be used to control a second flash, not sure about the 52. The Sigma is considerably more powerful than either of these.

Note that there is not such thing as a Sigma SG. There's an ST and a DG Super. Forget about the ST, it is very inexpensive but severely lacking in features

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i was talking about the metz 50 versus the new 52. looking at the specs seems like the 52 has wireless remote capabilities (no doubt accessories needed) but 50 does not. real advantage of course is 50 is not yet compatible while 52 is.

so does the Sigma 610 DG super work with the K-30?
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QuoteOriginally posted by bcorson Quote
i was talking about the metz 50 versus the new 52. looking at the specs seems like the 52 has wireless remote capabilities (no doubt accessories needed) but 50 does not. real advantage of course is 50 is not yet compatible while 52 is.

so does the Sigma 610 DG super work with the K-30?
The Metz 50 can be used off camera, so it has wireless capability. What it cannot do is act as a controller for another flash. In other words, you can't use a Metz 50 in the hot shoe to control another flash in the umbrella. I don't know whether the 52 can act as a controller.

I don't have a Sigma 610, I have an obsolete 530 Super. The 530 works on a K-5, haven't tried it with a K-30. I read on another board that someone was using a 610 with K-30 but whether all are compatible, I wouldn't know. Have you tried emailing Sigma?

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Yes several days ago . . . no reply.
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Bit the bullet. After looking at specs, alternatives prices, Canadian availability adn warranty I just placed an order for the Metz 52 AF-1. Looks like should get it before Christmas which means I won't have to make do with built-in for holiday shots.

Think I have blown the photo budget for a while . . .K-30 couple weeks ago Tamron 70-300mm via Ebay over the weekend (wonder if there is any chance that wil get here from England before Christmas?) and now the flash. Oh well been several years since have spent a cent on photo equipment.

Thanks for the input Audiobomber and Charlie.
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I believe the Metz 52 model can only act as a controller on the Canon and Nikon models.
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Don't know but it can be master or slave on the K-30
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Sigma 610 Super

I have a 610 Super and can confirm that it works well with the K-30. I has a tendency to slightly under-expose but this is easily compensated for. The power output is huge!
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QuoteOriginally posted by cptacoustics Quote
I have a 610 Super and can confirm that it works well with the K-30. I has a tendency to slightly under-expose but this is easily compensated for. The power output is huge!
Hi,

Thanks. I ended up buying the Metz 52 which was for sure firmware compatible and can be firmware upgraded at home. Not quite as powerful as the 610 super but close. Also I couldn't find the 610 in Canada. The Metz also tends to slightly underexpose but as you say easily remedied. All functions work great . . wireless remote, slave and master, servo, slow sync etc etc.
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