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04-20-2013, 01:45 PM   #1
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WR soft spots?

I know the 18-55 & 50-200 WR combo vs the 18-135 WR has been discussed several times and this isn't that serious of an issue but, when trying to find the best buy ordering my K30, I called Pentax to make some warranty inquiries. After my question was answered, the CSR actually began pricing cameras for me which was more than cool. I told him I wanted a body that wasn't black with a 18-135 WR and willing to pay a little extra to get it because I've been reading that having that lens would be better than having the 18-55 & 50-200 combo. Even though I'm new to photography common sense tells me, changing lenses less means, less dust and the likes getting in the body. Being that I'm more interested in still photography than video, I was told something to this nature:

This may not be true in some cases, the 18-135 WR may have a AF motor that makes it quieter and focus faster, but having a much wider range of focal lengths, it has more soft spots than a lens with a shorter range of focal lengths.

Well, since he works for Pentax, I took his advise and saved money (lol) by getting the dual WRs. Still I am curious as to what are the opinions of the forum in the case of soft spots in these lenses. Would this be true?

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Hm. The rep probably meant that bigger zoom range usually means lower quality. Not sure if this holds true in this case, though. Most people prefer the 18-135mm over the 18-55mm. But if you got two WRs, thats pretty good, too. Now you will have hoods and quick shift. And you now have the whole range from 18mm to 200mm covered. You can eventually get a nice prime to give you that stunning IQ, but the Pentax kit lenses are perfectly decent for most usage
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QuoteOriginally posted by Trudger1272 Quote
I know the 18-55 & 50-200 WR combo vs the 18-135 WR has been discussed several times and this isn't that serious of an issue but, when trying to find the best buy ordering my K30, I called Pentax to make some warranty inquiries. After my question was answered, the CSR actually began pricing cameras for me which was more than cool. I told him I wanted a body that wasn't black with a 18-135 WR and willing to pay a little extra to get it because I've been reading that having that lens would be better than having the 18-55 & 50-200 combo. Even though I'm new to photography common sense tells me, changing lenses less means, less dust and the likes getting in the body. Being that I'm more interested in still photography than video, I was told something to this nature:

This may not be true in some cases, the 18-135 WR may have a AF motor that makes it quieter and focus faster, but having a much wider range of focal lengths, it has more soft spots than a lens with a shorter range of focal lengths.

Well, since he works for Pentax, I took his advise and saved money (lol) by getting the dual WRs. Still I am curious as to what are the opinions of the forum in the case of soft spots in these lenses. Would this be true?
At 135mm the 18-135mm is only marginally worse than the 50-200mm, which isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. For everyday shooting I always recommend the 18-135mm. If you crave better IQ, there's always the 55-300mm, 17-70mm, and primes

Have you received your dual-WR kit yet? AFAIK the K-30 + 18-55mm WR + 50-200mm WR should be about the same price as the K-30 + 18-135mm WR. Are you sure they didn't trick you into getting the DA L kit?

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When comparing my 18-135 to the spouses 18-55/50-200 (These are older versions, circa 2007), I find the 18-135 produces a nicer image at all focal lengths, IMO. As Adam said, at 135, the 50-200 is ever so slightly sharper, but I find it does render as nicely. But I don't know if I would personally go out and buy the 18-135 if I already owned both the kit lenses. I would probably get a 16-50,17-50,17-70, etc and the DA 55-300 if I desired better quality... but then you wouldn't be WR the entire time.

In general, I would say the rep is correct. A lens cannot be fantastic at all focal lengths, but you trade that for the convenience factor.

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Thanks for the replies. I appreciate the input. My experience is limited and I still never even used a prime lens. (buying one next payday)

No, they're not DA L I don't think. Actually it's not the combo either. It's the 18-55 WR kit from Cameta camera. They have a WR on the photo at least. The 50-200 WR is ordered seperate from KEH. Bought this way was cheaper and I'm 100% sure that I have a U.S. warranty extended 2yrs as you've suggested.The camera should get here Thursday and the 50-200 Tuesday. I'll let you know what they are. I had asked him if there was anyway to get a crystal orange K30 with the 18-135, then the lens conversation took off. Still I want to shoot more than wait for pre-orders. I only like the color because it's so loud and ugly, I couldn't stop looking at it ...lol
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Ah, buying 'used' was good. I think it'll work out just fine
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I have all 3 'kit' lenses for my K-r; 18-55, 50-200, 55-300. I keep telling myself I ought to sell the 50-200, yet at the same time it has that advantage of being almost the same physical size and weight as the 18-55, and uses the same filter size.

But I'm getting off track. My biggest issue is when 'zooming with my feet' isn't practical, it seems every other shot is a wee bit the other side of that 55mm focal length. Interchangeable lenses are great, unless you spend all your time doing it. I solved my issue with a F35-70, and it is used for probably 75% of my shots. But if I was starting from scratch, my choice would be the 18-135, to be followed by the 55-300, and then I'd start looking for the shorter primes.
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Yep, I have no qualms with buying from KEH, I had no choice but to get both of my film cameras for class used and they work perfectly fine. The only thing I worry about being new is the digital body for warranty purposes.

The f35-70 sounds like a good idea, from what i've learned so far, the lenses I bought start or end a little over the normal focal length correct?

Thanks, these keep me hopeful.

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The F35-70 is from some viewpoints a normal to short-telephoto lens on a APS-C camera ... on a film camera it would be slightly wide to short-telephoto. I'll suggest looking it up in the Forum's lens reviews.

My only complaint is I have become addicted to the bayonet hood on the DA series lenses that self-store in reverse. The F series only uses filter thread mounting hoods, further the front element on the F35-70 turns during focusing so a petal style hood isn't advised. I finally solved my issue with a used Nikon hood and a 49-52 step ring.
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I see!!
After reading a couple of reviews, being it overlaps my other lens and is fairly reasonably priced, it's going on the top of my list just behind a 35mm prime. Thanks, great suggestion. That's why I love this forum.
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After you know what genre you like, then you move on to those lenses that fit your genre.

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Landscape and architecture, so maybe wide angles and telephotos right?
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I meant wide angle and zoom.
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Landscape and architecture, so maybe wide angles and telephotos right?
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I meant wide angle and zoom.
Wide angle like the Sigma 10-20 or Tamron 10-24 or Pentax 12-24 would be ideal for landscape and architecture.
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I think Pentax makes so many nice lenses, especially primes, that you won't have problems finding some that fit you.
The wallet, on the other hand, might suffer
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