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07-26-2013, 08:14 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
So as some of you may have read, I broke my K-5 and a couple of my lenses. I was contemplating what to do because I couldn't spend any money on gear (baby on the way)...luckily Hunts had their fantastic deal, so I sold my Sigma 120-400mm to fund my new K-30+18-55wr combo. I need the 18-55 wr because one of the lenses destroyed was my 18-135mm I know it's a step down but stupidity has its costs and I had to make compromises due to financial constraints.

Anyway...there are a lot of threads about K-5 vs K-30 so let me add one from my point of view.

From a feel standpoint, the K-5 feels more dense. I much prefer the grip of the K-5 to the K-30 which I find a little narrow. I have bear paws for hands so maybe if you have smaller hands you would like the K-30.
The shutter is definitely much louder on the K-30... it sounds eerily similar to my ZX-5 film body.
The viewfinder on the K-30 is a treat Nice and bright. I have an EE-S screen on my K-5 but I am not sure if I want to swap it on my K-30.
I don't miss the top LCD as much as I thought I would....but I miss the following: dedicated ISO button; metering mode dial; separate AF and AE lock buttons.
The rear Lcd and live view are much better on the k-30. I do suspect that I will have to invest in a few batteries because I like working in live view
Focus peaking is cool...but as my old mentor used to say "it ain't no panacea". I thought focus peaking would allow me to not need an aftermarket focus screen but I may be wrong. I will give it some time.
I have not noticed any differences in IQ but I haven't tortured my K-30 yet. Ditto with AF speed accuracy.

So after a few hours of playing with the K-30, I think most of my niggles will go away after I have time to adjust. I got so used to the K-5 that it was like an extension of my hand. I think the K-30 has that potential to but after time to grow with it.
Having said that, the K-5 is the more pro-style camera. I rarely had to access the menu because all the functions I required were easily accessible with a button or dial on the body.
My K-5 is being repaired, so I bought a K-30 to use until I get it back. Since my K-5 has been in and out of repair since last November, I barely remember it , so I can't do a direct comparison, but I have few complaints about the K-30. The only significant difference that matters to me is the K-30's louder shutter. I've shot theater performances with my K-5. I would not do that with the K-30. A few other minor issues:
  • Lack of top LCD. I used the top LCD a lot on my K-5, but I haven't missed it that much. I do wish the real LCD had a simple on/off toggle option, because I like to leave it off, except when I am checking it.
  • Different placement of buttons. The review button is on the right, under my thumb, on the K-30. This is a better location than on the K-5, IMO, but it took some time to get used to.
  • Harder to remove SD card. People complained about this with the K-5, but I did not find it to be a problem. Getting the SD card out is a lot harder on the K-30.
  • No side-by-side comparison option during image review.
Overall, the K-30 does feel a little bit less refined than the K-5, but it's a very capable camera that has good Pentax ergonomics and produces good results.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Jeff Charles Quote
My K-5 is being repaired, so I bought a K-30 to use until I get it back. Since my K-5 has been in and out of repair since last November, I barely remember it
What? What happened to that it's been in repair for over half a year? Is this a warranty repair?
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenafein Quote
What? What happened to that it's been in repair for over half a year? Is this a warranty repair?
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5/232593-my-k-5-repair-saga.html
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Thanks. 4 separate issues, sounds like it should be covered by a lemon law.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Jeff Charles Quote
  • Harder to remove SD card. People complained about this with the K-5, but I did not find it to be a problem. Getting the SD card out is a lot harder on the K-30.

I do this one of two ways:
1) I hook the lip of the SD card with my fingernail to pull it out farther, then it's easier to grasp.
2) I point the SD card at someone, usually my wife, and spring-launch the card at her much to her dismay.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jcdoss Quote
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I do this one of two ways:
1) I hook the lip of the SD card with my fingernail to pull it out farther, then it's easier to grasp.
2) I point the SD card at someone, usually my wife, and spring-launch the card at her much to her dismay.
Ah, a modification of #2. I've been married for 34 years and hate to wear this marriage out too soon.

I press the card in and let it slip off the end of my finger (spring launch), but my finger is still right next to the card so I stop the card's momentum when it is about 3/4 way ejected. It is then fairly easy to grip the card by its narrow sides as opposed to front and back, and lift it the rest of the way out.
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Thanks. 4 separate issues, sounds like it should be covered by a lemon law.
I checked on that. None apply, as far as I could find out.
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I like how quick the k30s processor is for reviewing photos. I prefer its screen and how decisive it is in focusing.
I have noticed that the noise can be a little more obvious in the k30.
I use them both side by side regularly for events and weddings. Sometimes I find the one better than the other with no real justified reason and swap at the next shoot.
I just wish their jpeg engines and modes were the same. I always shoot in raw but it is confusing when you shoot with the same settings on both cameras and they bothlook different when reviewing.

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Just a status update since it's been 3 months since I bought the K-30.
It has been stated here plenty of times, but, wow, the K-30 shutter is loud. I was at snapping some pics at my buddy's wedding (no i was not the photographer, just an amateur) and i was frankly embarrassed. For those that have played with the K-50, have they addressed that?
Also, I mentioned it before, but I think it bears repeating, the K-30 noise chroma noise is not as well controlled as the K-5 and it is hard to remove in post without losing a fair amount of detail. With the K-5, you can push the heck out of the exposure. With the K-30, it really pays to expose to the right and use your tripod!
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
Just a status update since it's been 3 months since I bought the K-30.
It has been stated here plenty of times, but, wow, the K-30 shutter is loud. I was at snapping some pics at my buddy's wedding (no i was not the photographer, just an amateur) and i was frankly embarrassed. For those that have played with the K-50, have they addressed that?
Also, I mentioned it before, but I think it bears repeating, the K-30 noise chroma noise is not as well controlled as the K-5 and it is hard to remove in post without losing a fair amount of detail. With the K-5, you can push the heck out of the exposure. With the K-30, it really pays to expose to the right and use your tripod!
It's really amazing how quiet the K-5 shutter is, but the screw drive is still ridiculously loud. The screw drive on the D600 is almost silent, however, it has a louder shutter. I don't know why companies can't seem to come out with both. For a company that relies so heavily on screw drive, Pentax really needs to work on the noise. For a company, like Nikon, that has moved to silent motors, on almost their entire lineup, they really should have a dead silent shutter. A bit of irony I suppose.

My K-r, with loud shutter and loud screw drive, was simply ridiculous. It sounded like a buzz-saw.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenafein Quote
My K-r, with loud shutter and loud screw drive, was simply ridiculous. It sounded like a buzz-saw.
This made me laugh out loud but what you are saying is so true!
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