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cyclone3d · 07-08-2013, 09:39 AM

I can order a AA battery holder for $4.50 (or $3.88 if I want to wait for a month for it to get here).

The other option is to order a couple extra battery packs that claim 2000mah for $9.99 shipped.

Anybody here use the knockoff 2000mah batteries?
Amazon.com: ATC 7.4V (compatible with 7.2V) 2000mAh 2 Pack High Capacity Pentax D-LI109 DLI109 DL1109 D-L1109 Replacement Lithium-Ion Battery for Pentax DSLR K-r Digital Camera: Camera & Photo

bcorson · 07-08-2013, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by cyclone3d

I can order a AA battery holder for $4.50 (or $3.88 if I want to wait for a month for it to get here).

The other option is to order a couple extra battery packs that claim 2000mah for $9.99 shipped.

Anybody here use the knockoff 2000mah batteries?
Amazon.com: ATC 7.4V (compatible with 7.2V) 2000mAh 2 Pack High Capacity Pentax D-LI109 DLI109 DL1109 D-L1109 Replacement Lithium-Ion Battery for Pentax DSLR K-r Digital Camera: Camera & Photo

I have the AA battery holder and like it. For rechargeable batteries get Enerloop as regular rechargeable don't cut it in K 30 . . .too high a current drain. I had a couple sets of Enerloop "equivalents" and they just didn't cut it. I also bought a special charger to make sure each cell was individually monitored and charged to get the max out of the Enerloops. Now having said that, I did it because with other camera I have tried the knok off batteries and just didn't get the battery life or # of shots per charge that I got out of the Name brand original. Perhaps at $9.99 each it is worth a shot before nvesting in Enerloops and a special charger. Even with that I would get an AA holder just in case . . .

VoiceOfReason · 07-08-2013, 11:08 AM

There is something to be said for getting the AA adapter since those are available everywhere, including in a gift shop in an emergency! Of course at those prices I would likely get both.

bcorson · 07-08-2013, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

There is something to be said for getting the AA adapter since those are available everywhere, including in a gift shop in an emergency! Of course at those prices I would likely get both.

Just beware that standard AA cells won't cut it with the K 30. Need to get high end ones and even then may not get that many shots. Perhaps someone else has experience with a particular type of disposable AA and K 30. DO a search as there was a thread or tow on that.

VoiceOfReason · 07-08-2013, 11:28 AM

If it si like the Kx and Kr I know they love lithiums! Alkaline ones will get you by in an emergency, but don't use the flash and you're not getting very many pictures. Standard rechargables, nope!

RyanS · 07-08-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by cyclone3d

I can order a AA battery holder for $4.50 (or $3.88 if I want to wait for a month for it to get here).

The other option is to order a couple extra battery packs that claim 2000mah for $9.99 shipped.

Anybody here use the knockoff 2000mah batteries?
Amazon.com: ATC 7.4V (compatible with 7.2V) 2000mAh 2 Pack High Capacity Pentax D-LI109 DLI109 DL1109 D-L1109 Replacement Lithium-Ion Battery for Pentax DSLR K-r Digital Camera: Camera & Photo

The cheaper battery I got off Amazon doesn't last as long as the OE one that came with the camera. Better than not having one, but you get what you pay for in this case. Here is the one I bought - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ODEAYY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

bluenose · 07-08-2013, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by bcorson

Just beware that standard AA cells won't cut it with the K 30. Need to get high end ones and even then may not get that many shots. Perhaps someone else has experience with a particular type of disposable AA and K 30. DO a search as there was a thread or tow on that.

I have the adapter and use it with disposable Energizer Ultimate Lithium AA batteries. Battery life is as good or better than the OEM battery.

Regards

Sagitta · 07-08-2013, 12:35 PM

Make sure the AA's have a decent capacity to them, and are at least somewhat quality.

When I first got my K-30, I picked up a bunch of Rayovacs (which had always been my choice because they were cheap) only to discover they were causing the camera to malfunction.

When I narrowed it down to being a battery issue, I realized that, well...

See how the Energizers are 2300mAh? The Rayovacs are also only like 1250 or something like that. Cheap isn't necessarily a good option. FWIW, the Energizers have served me well since. I use the Rayovacs in the kidlings toys now.

Kobayashi.K · 07-08-2013, 12:38 PM

It's an often heard fable that you cannot get as many shots from AA batteries compared to the lithium-ion battery pack. It's actually the opposite.

D-LI109 (lithium) = 480 shots (no flash)
AA lithium = 1250 .. 1600 shots (no flash).

Just compare the capacity (in mAh) to get the avarage number of shots.

For example, Eneloop XX (Ni-MH) has a capacity of 2450 mAh, and the D-LI109 1050 mAh, for 480 shots.
So, the Eneloop XX gives you (2450/1050)x480=1120 shots.

These are estimations because different types of batteries have different dynamic behavior. You will get other numbers when using a flash. They also react differently when its cold.

EarlVonTapia · 07-08-2013, 12:58 PM

I would get the AA battery packs.

Eneloops last far longer than the regular battery, and can probably outlast third-party batteries too.

Also, I've gotten just over 200 shots with regular Duracells. Perfect emergency use while travelling.

hnikesch · 07-08-2013, 02:39 PM

+1 for the Eneloop's, they work extremely well in my Kr and K30, I have the OEM and a 3ed party adapter and both work great. I also have a 3rd party battery and it also works well so I swap between them all

Hans

**felixkh** · 07-08-2013, 04:13 PM

Energizer Lithums are good as back up batteries too.

**JimJohnson** · 07-08-2013, 06:55 PM

The LiON is physically smaller than 4 AA batteries in the adapter, but by the time I add in the charger and power cord this is no longer true.

I have three AA adapters (all cheap knock-offs). Two are used for eneloop batteries, and the third was modified into an AC adapter. I purchased the compact Sanyo international charger that independently charges up to 4 cells (you have to order it from outside North America). My flash also uses AA batteries. So on the road, I have one charger (no cord needed), two AA adapters with eneloops for fast swaps in the field, and maybe my flash with its own set of eneloops. I would have to know I needed the AC adapter before I haul it with me.

The power setup was one thing that pushed me to upgrade from the K-r to the K-30 rather than a K-5.

cyclone3d · 07-08-2013, 09:13 PM

ok, sounds like the AA pack is the winner.

Going to go ahead and order a couple and see how my current Tenergy 2000mah LSD batteries work with the K-30 before I decide what extra AAs to order.

Thanks for all the responses.

GrinMode · 07-09-2013, 06:12 AM

Another plus for the AA holder is longevity. If you plan to have the body for as long as it works, the battery pack may be phased out long before AA's.

I got a third party battery pack, and I'm lucky if I get 1/3rd shots I'd get from the original battery pack. I'd only get 100 shots or so.

So I'd suggest get the AA holder. An extra battery pack won't hurt though if your funds will allow

.

07-08-2013, 09:39 AM	#1
cyclone3d Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 511	AA battery holder or extra battery packs? I can order a AA battery holder for $4.50 (or $3.88 if I want to wait for a month for it to get here). The other option is to order a couple extra battery packs that claim 2000mah for $9.99 shipped. Anybody here use the knockoff 2000mah batteries? Amazon.com: ATC 7.4V (compatible with 7.2V) 2000mAh 2 Pack High Capacity Pentax D-LI109 DLI109 DL1109 D-L1109 Replacement Lithium-Ion Battery for Pentax DSLR K-r Digital Camera: Camera & Photo

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07-08-2013, 11:04 AM	#2
bcorson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Kanata, ON Photos: Albums Posts: 131	Originally posted by cyclone3d I can order a AA battery holder for $4.50 (or $3.88 if I want to wait for a month for it to get here). The other option is to order a couple extra battery packs that claim 2000mah for $9.99 shipped. Anybody here use the knockoff 2000mah batteries? Amazon.com: ATC 7.4V (compatible with 7.2V) 2000mAh 2 Pack High Capacity Pentax D-LI109 DLI109 DL1109 D-L1109 Replacement Lithium-Ion Battery for Pentax DSLR K-r Digital Camera: Camera & Photo I have the AA battery holder and like it. For rechargeable batteries get Enerloop as regular rechargeable don't cut it in K 30 . . .too high a current drain. I had a couple sets of Enerloop "equivalents" and they just didn't cut it. I also bought a special charger to make sure each cell was individually monitored and charged to get the max out of the Enerloops. Now having said that, I did it because with other camera I have tried the knok off batteries and just didn't get the battery life or # of shots per charge that I got out of the Name brand original. Perhaps at $9.99 each it is worth a shot before nvesting in Enerloops and a special charger. Even with that I would get an AA holder just in case . . .

07-08-2013, 11:08 AM	#3
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	There is something to be said for getting the AA adapter since those are available everywhere, including in a gift shop in an emergency! Of course at those prices I would likely get both.

07-08-2013, 11:21 AM	#4
bcorson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Kanata, ON Photos: Albums Posts: 131	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason There is something to be said for getting the AA adapter since those are available everywhere, including in a gift shop in an emergency! Of course at those prices I would likely get both. Just beware that standard AA cells won't cut it with the K 30. Need to get high end ones and even then may not get that many shots. Perhaps someone else has experience with a particular type of disposable AA and K 30. DO a search as there was a thread or tow on that.

07-08-2013, 11:28 AM	#5
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	If it si like the Kx and Kr I know they love lithiums! Alkaline ones will get you by in an emergency, but don't use the flash and you're not getting very many pictures. Standard rechargables, nope!

07-08-2013, 12:09 PM	#6
RyanS Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Antonio, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 139	Originally posted by cyclone3d I can order a AA battery holder for $4.50 (or $3.88 if I want to wait for a month for it to get here). The other option is to order a couple extra battery packs that claim 2000mah for $9.99 shipped. Anybody here use the knockoff 2000mah batteries? Amazon.com: ATC 7.4V (compatible with 7.2V) 2000mAh 2 Pack High Capacity Pentax D-LI109 DLI109 DL1109 D-L1109 Replacement Lithium-Ion Battery for Pentax DSLR K-r Digital Camera: Camera & Photo The cheaper battery I got off Amazon doesn't last as long as the OE one that came with the camera. Better than not having one, but you get what you pay for in this case. Here is the one I bought - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ODEAYY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

07-08-2013, 12:24 PM	#7
bluenose Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Ontario Posts: 227	Originally posted by bcorson Just beware that standard AA cells won't cut it with the K 30. Need to get high end ones and even then may not get that many shots. Perhaps someone else has experience with a particular type of disposable AA and K 30. DO a search as there was a thread or tow on that. I have the adapter and use it with disposable Energizer Ultimate Lithium AA batteries. Battery life is as good or better than the OEM battery. Regards

07-08-2013, 12:35 PM	#8
Sagitta Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,081	Make sure the AA's have a decent capacity to them, and are at least somewhat quality. When I first got my K-30, I picked up a bunch of Rayovacs (which had always been my choice because they were cheap) only to discover they were causing the camera to malfunction. When I narrowed it down to being a battery issue, I realized that, well... See how the Energizers are 2300mAh? The Rayovacs are also only like 1250 or something like that. Cheap isn't necessarily a good option. FWIW, the Energizers have served me well since. I use the Rayovacs in the kidlings toys now.

07-08-2013, 12:38 PM	#9
Kobayashi.K Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 716	It's an often heard fable that you cannot get as many shots from AA batteries compared to the lithium-ion battery pack. It's actually the opposite. D-LI109 (lithium) = 480 shots (no flash) AA lithium = 1250 .. 1600 shots (no flash). Just compare the capacity (in mAh) to get the avarage number of shots. For example, Eneloop XX (Ni-MH) has a capacity of 2450 mAh, and the D-LI109 1050 mAh, for 480 shots. So, the Eneloop XX gives you (2450/1050)x480=1120 shots. These are estimations because different types of batteries have different dynamic behavior. You will get other numbers when using a flash. They also react differently when its cold.

07-08-2013, 12:58 PM	#10
EarlVonTapia Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,207	I would get the AA battery packs. Eneloops last far longer than the regular battery, and can probably outlast third-party batteries too. Also, I've gotten just over 200 shots with regular Duracells. Perfect emergency use while travelling.

07-08-2013, 02:39 PM	#11
hnikesch Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,316	+1 for the Eneloop's, they work extremely well in my Kr and K30, I have the OEM and a 3ed party adapter and both work great. I also have a 3rd party battery and it also works well so I swap between them all Hans

07-08-2013, 04:13 PM	#12
felixkh Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,201	Energizer Lithums are good as back up batteries too.

07-08-2013, 06:55 PM	#13
JimJohnson Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Summer:Lake Superior - Michigan Winter:Texas Hill Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,774	The LiON is physically smaller than 4 AA batteries in the adapter, but by the time I add in the charger and power cord this is no longer true. I have three AA adapters (all cheap knock-offs). Two are used for eneloop batteries, and the third was modified into an AC adapter. I purchased the compact Sanyo international charger that independently charges up to 4 cells (you have to order it from outside North America). My flash also uses AA batteries. So on the road, I have one charger (no cord needed), two AA adapters with eneloops for fast swaps in the field, and maybe my flash with its own set of eneloops. I would have to know I needed the AC adapter before I haul it with me. The power setup was one thing that pushed me to upgrade from the K-r to the K-30 rather than a K-5.

07-08-2013, 09:13 PM	#14
cyclone3d Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 511 Original Poster	ok, sounds like the AA pack is the winner. Going to go ahead and order a couple and see how my current Tenergy 2000mah LSD batteries work with the K-30 before I decide what extra AAs to order. Thanks for all the responses.

07-09-2013, 06:12 AM	#15
GrinMode Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 249	Another plus for the AA holder is longevity. If you plan to have the body for as long as it works, the battery pack may be phased out long before AA's. I got a third party battery pack, and I'm lucky if I get 1/3rd shots I'd get from the original battery pack. I'd only get 100 shots or so. So I'd suggest get the AA holder. An extra battery pack won't hurt though if your funds will allow .

AA battery holder or extra battery packs?

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