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09-07-2013, 05:24 PM   #16
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This is one of the problems I have with my K20. I will press the green button to get it to meter the scene and it will often underexpose.

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QuoteOriginally posted by neostyles Quote
This is one of the problems I have with my K20. I will press the green button to get it to meter the scene and it will often underexpose.
That can happen for any number of reasons depending on metering mode, where you aim your meter, overall brightness of the scene, etc. Try adding + compensation in 1/3 stop increments to lighten it to your tastes. I'd also recommend you do some reading about exposures and how camera meters interpret what you point it at. It's vital knowledge, and with a little practice will become second nature and your photos will improve.
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Apples and Oranges?

Hello neostyles, welcome to the Forum!
I hope you don't take offense, but you're really overthinking this. It's almost impossible to compare a camera released in 2008 with one released in 2012.
Could you compare the performance and features of cars, or TVs or computers from that time span? In camera bodies, that's two generations; entirely different sensor types and capabilities, noise reduction, feature set, control placement, menu setup, image quality and pretty much everything else except the name.
The handful of posters who happened to own both bodies have answered as well as they could, but you're still not sure. Nobody can decide but you.
The K-30 is the best deal going in APS-c bodies right now, bar none. Since the release of the K-50, prices are lower than ever and discontinued stock isn't going to last forever. Within a couple of months you'll only find used bodies, not new, for sale. It will be too late.
The closest you'll come to a consensus comparison is from the camera reviews here. For what it's worth, 22 reviews of the K-30, 31 reviews of the K20D;
Ergonomics- K20D, 9.9 K-30, 9.2
Build Quality- K20D, 10.0 K-30, 9.3
User Interface- K20D, 8.7 K-30, 9.1
Autofocus- K20D, 7.8 K-30, 9.0
Features- K20D, 9.0 K-30, 9.3
Value- K20D, 9.5 K-30, 9.7
Image Quality- K20D, 9.3 K-30, 9.7
Noise- K20D, 7.9 K-30, 9.0
Average User Rating- K20D, 8.85 K-30, 9.55
Tick, tock.
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What would be a good place to get one? I heard that it was discontinued recently?

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What would be a good place to get one? I heard that it was discontinued recently?
Try Amazon
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I came from a Canon 10 year old 60D with a 28-105 uSM lens to a K100D to a K200D, and then struck gold with the K30.
The K30 is to me, the ultimate camera. It has amazing low light ability, easily taking wonderful shots at 6800 or above. I've been using it in AV mode, selecting my focal length and or shutter speed
on the amazing Lcd back screen, then selecting my ISO speed easily and quickly. If I'm not happy with the ISO result I can quickly adjust ISO and take another shot.
I can't wait to get my DA35mm Pentax 2.4 prime lens for under $200. I may never buy another lens after that because I still have my wonderful DA16-45 F4 ED and my trusty Sigma 50mm EX macro lens (not to mention my kit lens DA50-200, a very useful lens).
Want a wonderful experience in photography, get yourself a K30 body for $500. You will not be disappointed! Buy it from Amazon. Warmest regards, Freddy
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Hey all, thinking about making the switch to the K30 like the title says. Would this be a worthy upgrade in terms of things like image quality, noise performance, etc? Are the menus better?
I had a K20D and went to the K-30 last year. It is light years better in all around performance. I thought I would miss the top LCD and rear IR remote sensor, I don't miss the top LCD at all, I do miss the rear IR a little but not that much. The unexpected things that I love are the built in level and the focus peaking with live view. I never used live view with the K20D, but use it whenever I use a tripod on the K-30. The K-30 made all of my lenses feel faster, because of the ISO you can use, and because of the fast auto focus. Hopefully you can still score a K-30, if not the K-50 is nearly the same camera.

I didn't have noise problems with my K20D but here is a 30 second exposure (ISO 100) taken with the K-30 last night, you can faintly see the line in the middle of the road, the egg shaped moon is how much it moves in 30 seconds:

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