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05-27-2014, 05:06 PM   #16
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Thanks for the suggestions. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I would like to start with a prime fixed focal length glass. Probably a 35mm or 50mm, that's reasonably fast and easy on the wallet.

I do have a manual 55mm f2 super takumar M42 lens available when I was using my m43 camera. I guess I do need to find a K mount adapter for it.
I'd start with the DA35/2.4, but the 3 primes I listed in the middle are also very easy on the wallet. You should add the M or A100/2.8 when you can. Don't ask for mine however - I foolishly almost sold it once, but had nightmares about it and changed my mind.

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I'd start with the DA35/2.4, but the 3 primes I listed in the middle are also very easy on the wallet. You should add the M or A100/2.8 when you can. Don't ask for mine however - I foolishly almost sold it once, but had nightmares about it and changed my mind.

Lol. I had sold a few things and greatly regret them, but sometimes money is tight and I want to upgrade
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QuoteOriginally posted by haviet Quote
Thanks for the suggestions. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I would like to start with a prime fixed focal length glass. Probably a 35mm or 50mm, that's reasonably fast and easy on the wallet.

I do have a manual 55mm f2 super takumar M42 lens available when I was using my m43 camera. I guess I do need to find a K mount adapter for it.
You can't go wrong with the DA 35 2.4. It is amazingly sharp for the price, lightweight, compact and a good standard focal length. Works well for video on the K-30 too. I'd go with that first.

You might not need a 50 at the moment given you have the 55 takumar - although shooting moving kids and pets with MF and manual aperture could be a bit challenging.

You said that your primary usage would be family and kids with a little bit of travel, sports, and landscape mix in. That could cover a wide range - sounds to me like a job for a zoom!

DSims has some great suggestions for zooms. I would add a budget option: pair the 18-55 kit lens with a 55-300 (the DA-L version goes for less than $200 which is outstanding value). You might be surprised at how handy the long reach is - not just for sports and wildlife but candid people shots and even landscapes (taking a sliver rather than a whole scene can be very dramatic). After a while you will have a better idea of which focal lengths you use the most and can add lenses to suit your style of photography.
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Thanks Des, you are correct. I attempted to shoot kids with the Takumar manual once and quickly give up. It just won't work, for me at least.

I occassionally use the Takumar for flowers, trees, and some landscape shots but that's it.

When I had the m43 camera, I shoot almost exclusively with a 30mm Sigma glass, so I guess I am somewhat use to that focal length. But doesn't mean I shouldn't try other focal lengths.

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When I had the m43 camera, I shoot almost exclusively with a 30mm Sigma glass, so I guess I am somewhat use to that focal length. But doesn't mean I shouldn't try other focal lengths.
I guess 30mm on M43 would be equivalent to about 40 on APS-C. Maybe a 40 or 43 would be more like what you are used to? But you might find the little extra width of the 35 is a bit more versatile.

I have two 50s (DA 1.8 and A 1.7) to go with my 35. Each is a little different, but I find I use the 35 more often. If I had to pick one it would be the 35. In fact it is the lens I carry in my pocket whichever other lens is on the camera - whether 12-24, 18-250, 55-300, DFA 100 macro, or 170-500. But for me it couldn't replace any of the others. I love having the wide range of options for different circumstances.

You'll never know whether you like wide angle, or medium or long tele, or macro until you try!
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I'll add my .02 to the pile, this is a no brainer....K-30
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When I had the m43 camera, I shoot almost exclusively with a 30mm Sigma glass, so I guess I am somewhat use to that focal length. But doesn't mean I shouldn't try other focal lengths.
Aha! So you're an FA43 customer!

But I think DA35/2.4 is still the smarter move right now, considering the price.
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Aha! So you're an FA43 customer!

But I think DA35/2.4 is still the smarter move right now, considering the price.


FA43?

Could anyone tell me the differences between DA AL and DA AL WR lenses?

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K-30 is a great choice. From a limited budget, I would recommend the 35mm f/2.4 and the 50mm f/1.8. Both AF and excellent value. After a little while playing with those two, you'll get a better sense of whether you need something longer or shorter. You might not need anything else.
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One last question before I pull the trigger.

K-30 body for $365
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K-30 kit with 18-55 DAL WR lens for $450?

Is the 18-55 DAL WR worth the extra $85? I do plan to purchase the 35mm f2.4 prime glass.
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I would get the kit lens too. For that small price you have a lens that is WR which, with the K-30 gives you an all-weather option (the 35mm is not), and covers a nice range. You'll be able to tell if you would ever want a prime around 50mm, or even something at, say, 21mm. But you'd have them all covered whilst you thought about it and saved. $85 for a WR lens covering such a broad range of lengths - go for it!

Edited addition: if money is the issue, you could go for just the kit lens. Try at 35mm for a few weeks, then at 50mm for a few more. you'll get to see which works best for you, and can buy the 'right' prime first. And you've still got that all-weather capability.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kentishrev Quote
I would get the kit lens too. For that small price you have a lens that is WR which, with the K-30 gives you an all-weather option (the 35mm is not), and covers a nice range. You'll be able to tell if you would ever want a prime around 50mm, or even something at, say, 21mm. But you'd have them all covered whilst you thought about it and saved. $85 for a WR lens covering such a broad range of lengths - go for it!

Edited addition: if money is the issue, you could go for just the kit lens. Try at 35mm for a few weeks, then at 50mm for a few more. you'll get to see which works best for you, and can buy the 'right' prime first. And you've still got that all-weather capability.
Agree with this ^^
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Thanks.

Got the kits for $463 shipped with 2nd day fedex. I will be able to have my hands on them this Friday.

I hope the K-30 will perform much better in low-light/in-door situations, compare to my previous m43 camera.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kentishrev Quote
I would get the kit lens too. For that small price you have a lens that is WR which, with the K-30 gives you an all-weather option (the 35mm is not), and covers a nice range. You'll be able to tell if you would ever want a prime around 50mm, or even something at, say, 21mm. But you'd have them all covered whilst you thought about it and saved. $85 for a WR lens covering such a broad range of lengths - go for it!

Edited addition: if money is the issue, you could go for just the kit lens. Try at 35mm for a few weeks, then at 50mm for a few more. you'll get to see which works best for you, and can buy the 'right' prime first. And you've still got that all-weather capability.

It's not so much about the focal length, but more about the wider apertures of those 35mm and 50mm prime lenses that would allow me to shoot a little faster in low light conditions and kids moving around constantly.

But what you said make perfect sense.
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Got the kits for $463 shipped with 2nd day fedex. I will be able to have my hands on them this Friday.
You got a great deal. Seems the price has dropped a couple of hundred dollars since the release of the K-50 last year. It's a lot of camera for the money.
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You got a great deal. Seems the price has dropped a couple of hundred dollars since the release of the K-50 last year. It's a lot of camera for the money.

Thanks, it's a manufacturer refurb, not new though.
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