Focus peaking..

Snoops27 · 07-13-2014, 11:49 AM

Can anyone please tell me if Manual focus assist is available in conjunction with focus peaking on the K50. I just watched this video on Youtube and wondered if the video content applied to all makes of camera..

You Tube

Thanks guys..

Adam · 07-13-2014, 12:22 PM

By manual focus assist, do you mean zooming in? If so, then yeah focus peaking is available then.

stevebrot · 07-13-2014, 12:53 PM

Yes, the video is generally correct. If you want fine focus control, you need to magnify. This feature is available on the K50 by pushing the OK button while in live view.

Steve

Snoops27 · 07-13-2014, 01:02 PM

That clears thigs up for me. Appreciated....

Originally posted by stevebrot

Yes, the video is generally correct. If you want fine focus control, you need to magnify. This feature is available on the K50 by pushing the OK button while in live view.

Steve

---------- Post added 07-13-14 at 09:07 PM ----------

Zooming in to aid with manual focusing - yes..

Originally posted by Adam

By manual focus assist, do you mean zooming in? If so, then yeah focus peaking is available then.

stevebrot · 07-13-2014, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Snoops27

That clears thigs up for me. Appreciated....

It is my pleasure. One of the hallmarks of the Pentax Forums is the eagerness of the members to help out and offer advice or information. We don't always get it right, but often enough we are a great help.

Steve

Steve.Ledger · 07-13-2014, 02:04 PM

I have the K-50 and can confirm all of the above.
Though [for me], when using live view I find focus assist far more accurate without FP.

Snoops27 · 07-14-2014, 09:39 AM

Thanks Steve, the more info I get, the easier it is for me to make an informed decision. It's marvellous when folks take time out to help other less knowledgeable people.... Thanks again..

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

I have the K-50 and can confirm all of the above.
Though [for me], when using live view I find focus assist far more accurate without FP.

**grahame** · 07-14-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Though [for me], when using live view I find focus assist far more accurate without FP.

Same here. i am not a big fan of FP, particularly on Pentax cameras. I guess the FP level was set at too high (highlights too much of DOF) on Pentax? But even on NEX camera, I feel FP is somewhat like focusing conformation beeping, just provides a range, but not guarantee spot on.
I use focus assist most of time if possible. But again, the screen on pentax cameras are not very good for that either, particularly when zoom-in. image is blurred and still not as good as I expect. does the screen on K3 get better?

Steve.Ledger · 07-14-2014, 11:41 AM

Focus assist digitally zooms the image, so yes it will be soft - not much can be done about that.

**grahame** · 07-14-2014, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Focus assist digitally zooms the image, so yes it will be soft - not much can be done about that.

That is exactly what I said about Pentax, which interpolates the small files generated for LCD display and enlarges it for focus assisting. While the digital zoom on NEX is much much better. It uses the image collected from cmos and recalculate for the zoom-in image for display (starts from much better image)
I really hope pentax/ricoh could catch up soon in that expect.

Steve.Ledger · 07-14-2014, 12:00 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by grahame

That is exactly what I said about Pentax, which interpolates the small files generated for LCD display and enlarges it for focus assisting..

I find that technically questionable as the focus assist is live with the image directly from the sensor. I don't see how there could be any 'files'.
Also, FA LCD display quality very much depends on the lens and current focal length used.

curlednoodles · 07-19-2014, 09:03 PM

Id love to see Pentax offer the ability to change the colour of the highlighted edges with focus peaking via a firmware update. The white edging is often difficult to see.

**clackers** · 07-20-2014, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by curlednoodles

Id love to see Pentax offer the ability to change the colour of the highlighted edges with focus peaking via a firmware update. The white edging is often difficult to see.

Yeah, I like the default Sony red better. Like the brush adjustment area in Lightroom, it's clearer most times than white.

stevebrot · 07-21-2014, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by curlednoodles

Id love to see Pentax offer the ability to change the colour of the highlighted edges with focus peaking via a firmware update. The white edging is often difficult to see.

Agreed 1+++

Steve

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Snoops27 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Connahs Quay Posts: 31 Original Poster	Many thanks Steve That clears thigs up for me. Appreciated.... Originally posted by stevebrot Yes, the video is generally correct. If you want fine focus control, you need to magnify. This feature is available on the K50 by pushing the OK button while in live view. Steve ---------- Post added 07-13-14 at 09:07 PM ---------- Zooming in to aid with manual focusing - yes.. Originally posted by Adam By manual focus assist, do you mean zooming in? If so, then yeah focus peaking is available then.

07-14-2014, 09:39 AM	#7
Snoops27 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Connahs Quay Posts: 31 Original Poster	Great stuff. Thanks Steve, the more info I get, the easier it is for me to make an informed decision. It's marvellous when folks take time out to help other less knowledgeable people.... Thanks again.. Originally posted by Steve.Ledger I have the K-50 and can confirm all of the above. Though [for me], when using live view I find focus assist far more accurate without FP.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Yes, the video is generally correct. If you want fine focus control, you need to magnify. This feature is available on the K50 by pushing the OK button while in live view. Steve

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Snoops27 That clears thigs up for me. Appreciated.... It is my pleasure. One of the hallmarks of the Pentax Forums is the eagerness of the members to help out and offer advice or information. We don't always get it right, but often enough we are a great help. Steve

07-13-2014, 02:04 PM	#6
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	I have the K-50 and can confirm all of the above. Though [for me], when using live view I find focus assist far more accurate without FP.

07-14-2014, 11:14 AM	#8
grahame Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,041	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Though [for me], when using live view I find focus assist far more accurate without FP. Same here. i am not a big fan of FP, particularly on Pentax cameras. I guess the FP level was set at too high (highlights too much of DOF) on Pentax? But even on NEX camera, I feel FP is somewhat like focusing conformation beeping, just provides a range, but not guarantee spot on. I use focus assist most of time if possible. But again, the screen on pentax cameras are not very good for that either, particularly when zoom-in. image is blurred and still not as good as I expect. does the screen on K3 get better?

07-14-2014, 11:41 AM	#9
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Focus assist digitally zooms the image, so yes it will be soft - not much can be done about that.

07-14-2014, 11:53 AM	#10
grahame Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,041	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Focus assist digitally zooms the image, so yes it will be soft - not much can be done about that. That is exactly what I said about Pentax, which interpolates the small files generated for LCD display and enlarges it for focus assisting. While the digital zoom on NEX is much much better. It uses the image collected from cmos and recalculate for the zoom-in image for display (starts from much better image) I really hope pentax/ricoh could catch up soon in that expect.

07-14-2014, 12:00 PM - 1 Like	#11
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Originally posted by grahame That is exactly what I said about Pentax, which interpolates the small files generated for LCD display and enlarges it for focus assisting.. I find that technically questionable as the focus assist is live with the image directly from the sensor. I don't see how there could be any 'files'. Also, FA LCD display quality very much depends on the lens and current focal length used.

07-19-2014, 09:03 PM	#12
curlednoodles Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Far North Qld, Australia Posts: 184	Id love to see Pentax offer the ability to change the colour of the highlighted edges with focus peaking via a firmware update. The white edging is often difficult to see.

07-20-2014, 01:07 AM	#13
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by curlednoodles Id love to see Pentax offer the ability to change the colour of the highlighted edges with focus peaking via a firmware update. The white edging is often difficult to see. Yeah, I like the default Sony red better. Like the brush adjustment area in Lightroom, it's clearer most times than white.

07-21-2014, 08:53 AM	#14
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by curlednoodles Id love to see Pentax offer the ability to change the colour of the highlighted edges with focus peaking via a firmware update. The white edging is often difficult to see. Agreed 1+++ Steve