Cannot enable Movie SR on K-30 (grayed out)

Edgar_in_Indy · 10-26-2014, 04:03 PM

I've been using my K-30 for my home videos lately, and a lot of the videos look pretty decent, but even when I'm being careful to hold the camera steady, it's still common for the footage to be a bit shaky. I wanted to try the "Movie SR" feature, but it is grayed out in my menu.

I've already searched the internet for a solution, but can't figure it out. Drive mode is set to single shot (not remote or timer), and I'm not using HDR or any kind of highlight or shadow corrections. The lens is a Sigma 30mm 1.4 EX, and my camera's firmware is 1.04.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

ZombieArmy · 10-26-2014, 04:56 PM

It's doing you a favor, trust me.

stevebrot · 10-26-2014, 05:00 PM

Does it work with a Pentax lens?

Steve

Edgar_in_Indy · 10-26-2014, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Does it work with a Pentax lens?

If somebody wants to send me a Pentax lens I can try it!

Originally posted by ZombieArmy

It's doing you a favor, trust me.

I understand that the system has its drawbacks, but I downloaded some sample videos with and without the SR enabled, and I don't think that it's completely without merit. I'd like to try it, anyway, and see what I think. The shaky video is annoying!

stevebrot · 10-26-2014, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy

If somebody wants to send me a Pentax lens I can try it!

Try one of your older lenses. It may be that the camera needs a valid lens code.

Steve

Edgar_in_Indy · 10-26-2014, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Try one of your older lenses. It may be that the camera needs a valid lens code.

I tried it with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8, and it did not work either. And I don't know if it counts as a Pentax lens, but I also remembered that I had an old Takumar-F 70-200mm/f4-5.6 autofocus zoom lens in the closet, and tried it also without success. And I had an "Auto Chinon" 50mm 1.9 manual lens sitting nearby, so I also threw it on just for the heck of it. No luck.

Steve.Ledger · 10-26-2014, 07:27 PM

Works with any lens. I have a Sigma and a Tammy. No problems with my K-50 or K-01 (except that Movie SR is cr*p)

EDIT: BTW, I bought a used Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-F4 HSM OS (Optical Stabilisation) and it's magic for Shake Reduction when shooting vids..

Edgar_in_Indy · 10-26-2014, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Works with any lens. I have a Sigma and a Tammy. No problems with my K-50 or K-01 (except that Movie SR is cr*p)

EDIT: BTW, I bought a used Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-F4 HSM OS (Optical Stabilisation) and it's magic for Shake Reduction when shooting vids..

Maybe I should sell my trusty old Tamron 28-75mm and replace it with the Sigma. The Tamron was my first after-market lens, and I love it to death, but these days I only use it in my studio, and the Sigma 17-70mm could probably take those duties over.

revdoug · 10-30-2014, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy

I've been using my K-30 for my home videos lately, and a lot of the videos look pretty decent, but even when I'm being careful to hold the camera steady, it's still common for the footage to be a bit shaky. I wanted to try the "Movie SR" feature, but it is grayed out in my menu.

I've already searched the internet for a solution, but can't figure it out. Drive mode is set to single shot (not remote or timer), and I'm not using HDR or any kind of highlight or shadow corrections. The lens is a Sigma 30mm 1.4 EX, and my camera's firmware is 1.04.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

In my K-30 Manual on page 271, it states: :...set the focal length in the Input Focal Length Screen"

Edgar_in_Indy · 10-30-2014, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by revdoug

In my K-30 Manual on page 271, it states: :...set the focal length in the Input Focal Length Screen"

Wouldn't that only be for old manual non-electronic lenses that are not recognized by the camera?

stevebrot · 10-30-2014, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy

Wouldn't that only be for old manual non-electronic lenses that are not recognized by the camera?

No, it asks for focal length for any lens lacking the data contact. In other words, any manual focus K-mount lens, including current and recent Zeiss, Voigtlander, and Samyang products. I know that is a small point and tangential to your problems, but still something to keep in mind.

Steve

---------- Post added 10-30-14 at 01:50 PM ----------

Originally posted by revdoug

In my K-30 Manual on page 271, it states: :...set the focal length in the Input Focal Length Screen"

Should not affect whether the SR is available. If you don't set a value, the camera will default to the last value set. There is something else going on here.

Steve

---------- Post added 10-30-14 at 02:01 PM ----------

You don't happen to have composition adjustment activated, by any chance? (Rec/3/)

Steve

Steve.Ledger · 10-30-2014, 09:51 PM

Does that disable SR on the K-30, Steve? It doesn't on the K-50, I just checked mine.

Edgar_in_Indy · 10-31-2014, 05:49 AM

No, composition adjustment is not activated. I've been through every menu item multiple times, and I can't figure this one out!

photolady95 · 10-31-2014, 06:44 AM

I just checked mine, on my K-30. The settings say Exposure is set on P, and shake reduction is on. Of course, the lens on the camera is a Pentax, the DA 50-200mm WR ED,

stevebrot · 10-31-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Does that disable SR on the K-30, Steve? It doesn't on the K-50, I just checked mine.

According to the user manuals for both the K-30 and K-50, it does. That may have been changed as an undocumented enhancement with later versions of firmware, however. I think you probably understand why it would make sense to disable if composition adjust is being used. On the K-3 it makes no difference.

Steve

10-26-2014, 04:03 PM	#1
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685	Cannot enable Movie SR on K-30 (grayed out) I've been using my K-30 for my home videos lately, and a lot of the videos look pretty decent, but even when I'm being careful to hold the camera steady, it's still common for the footage to be a bit shaky. I wanted to try the "Movie SR" feature, but it is grayed out in my menu. I've already searched the internet for a solution, but can't figure it out. Drive mode is set to single shot (not remote or timer), and I'm not using HDR or any kind of highlight or shadow corrections. The lens is a Sigma 30mm 1.4 EX, and my camera's firmware is 1.04. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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10-26-2014, 04:56 PM	#2
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210	It's doing you a favor, trust me.

10-26-2014, 05:00 PM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Does it work with a Pentax lens? Steve

10-26-2014, 05:15 PM	#4
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot Does it work with a Pentax lens? If somebody wants to send me a Pentax lens I can try it! Originally posted by ZombieArmy It's doing you a favor, trust me. I understand that the system has its drawbacks, but I downloaded some sample videos with and without the SR enabled, and I don't think that it's completely without merit. I'd like to try it, anyway, and see what I think. The shaky video is annoying!

10-26-2014, 05:36 PM	#5
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy If somebody wants to send me a Pentax lens I can try it! Try one of your older lenses. It may be that the camera needs a valid lens code. Steve

10-26-2014, 05:59 PM	#6
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot Try one of your older lenses. It may be that the camera needs a valid lens code. I tried it with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8, and it did not work either. And I don't know if it counts as a Pentax lens, but I also remembered that I had an old Takumar-F 70-200mm/f4-5.6 autofocus zoom lens in the closet, and tried it also without success. And I had an "Auto Chinon" 50mm 1.9 manual lens sitting nearby, so I also threw it on just for the heck of it. No luck.

10-26-2014, 07:27 PM	#7
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Works with any lens. I have a Sigma and a Tammy. No problems with my K-50 or K-01 (except that Movie SR is cr*p) EDIT: BTW, I bought a used Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-F4 HSM OS (Optical Stabilisation) and it's magic for Shake Reduction when shooting vids..

10-26-2014, 08:16 PM	#8
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685 Original Poster	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Works with any lens. I have a Sigma and a Tammy. No problems with my K-50 or K-01 (except that Movie SR is cr*p) EDIT: BTW, I bought a used Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-F4 HSM OS (Optical Stabilisation) and it's magic for Shake Reduction when shooting vids.. Maybe I should sell my trusty old Tamron 28-75mm and replace it with the Sigma. The Tamron was my first after-market lens, and I love it to death, but these days I only use it in my studio, and the Sigma 17-70mm could probably take those duties over.

10-30-2014, 07:54 AM	#9
revdoug New Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5	Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy I've been using my K-30 for my home videos lately, and a lot of the videos look pretty decent, but even when I'm being careful to hold the camera steady, it's still common for the footage to be a bit shaky. I wanted to try the "Movie SR" feature, but it is grayed out in my menu. I've already searched the internet for a solution, but can't figure it out. Drive mode is set to single shot (not remote or timer), and I'm not using HDR or any kind of highlight or shadow corrections. The lens is a Sigma 30mm 1.4 EX, and my camera's firmware is 1.04. Any suggestions? Thanks! In my K-30 Manual on page 271, it states: :...set the focal length in the Input Focal Length Screen"

10-30-2014, 08:30 AM	#10
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685 Original Poster	Originally posted by revdoug In my K-30 Manual on page 271, it states: :...set the focal length in the Input Focal Length Screen" Wouldn't that only be for old manual non-electronic lenses that are not recognized by the camera?

10-30-2014, 01:46 PM	#11
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Wouldn't that only be for old manual non-electronic lenses that are not recognized by the camera? No, it asks for focal length for any lens lacking the data contact. In other words, any manual focus K-mount lens, including current and recent Zeiss, Voigtlander, and Samyang products. I know that is a small point and tangential to your problems, but still something to keep in mind. Steve ---------- Post added 10-30-14 at 01:50 PM ---------- Originally posted by revdoug In my K-30 Manual on page 271, it states: :...set the focal length in the Input Focal Length Screen" Should not affect whether the SR is available. If you don't set a value, the camera will default to the last value set. There is something else going on here. Steve ---------- Post added 10-30-14 at 02:01 PM ---------- You don't happen to have composition adjustment activated, by any chance? (Rec/3/) Steve

10-30-2014, 09:51 PM	#12
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Does that disable SR on the K-30, Steve? It doesn't on the K-50, I just checked mine.

10-31-2014, 05:49 AM	#13
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685 Original Poster	No, composition adjustment is not activated. I've been through every menu item multiple times, and I can't figure this one out!

10-31-2014, 06:44 AM	#14
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	I just checked mine, on my K-30. The settings say Exposure is set on P, and shake reduction is on. Of course, the lens on the camera is a Pentax, the DA 50-200mm WR ED,

10-31-2014, 10:36 AM	#15
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Does that disable SR on the K-30, Steve? It doesn't on the K-50, I just checked mine. According to the user manuals for both the K-30 and K-50, it does. That may have been changed as an undocumented enhancement with later versions of firmware, however. I think you probably understand why it would make sense to disable if composition adjust is being used. On the K-3 it makes no difference. Steve