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06-07-2016, 06:48 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by niceshot Quote
cuz they are throw away cameras meant to be disposed of after 10000 acuations
Joking right?

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Joking right?
No not really, you can pretty much count on blackframes or flat out failure of the aperture motor on or around 10000 actuation. t he good news is they are cheap to buy brand new, hence forth meant to be replaced
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No not really, you can pretty much count on blackframes or flat out failure of the aperture motor on or around 10000 actuation. t he good news is they are cheap to buy brand new, hence forth meant to be replaced
???

You should get past your 10000 before the warranty expires...
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???

You should get past your 10000 before the warranty expires...
Mine was an EBAY purchase. Listen it is still worth it just people should be advised about this very common problem. Pentax should offer to fix free of charge for 3 yrs . Because this is a very well documented problem. But like I SAID it is a throw away item and still a good value do to the really low price

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No not really, you can pretty much count on blackframes or flat out failure of the aperture motor on or around 10000 actuation. t he good news is they are cheap to buy brand new, hence forth meant to be replaced
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3 pages of posts on this subject in a sticky thread dedicated to this subject, with about 15 people posting that they had this issue.
90% of your last who knows how many posts on this subject - every chance you can get it seems.

You had this problem on a camera you bought on E-Bay.

As someone who works in IT I can tell you if a problem exists on more than about 5% of anything you are going to hear about nothing but that problem. This isn't even close to what is seen.
But even if 5%-10% of K-30/K-50 were having this problem it would not even remotely approach "you can pretty count on".

The problem with anecdotal evidence is just that. It's anecdotal. My 50,000 or SSPhotography who posted of his 260,000 shutter count on his K-30 are in all likelihood, based upon star ratings, far more common.
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3 pages of posts on this subject in a sticky thread dedicated to this subject, with about 15 people posting that they had this issue.
90% of your last who knows how many posts on this subject - every chance you can get it seems.

You had this problem on a camera you bought on E-Bay.

As someone who works in IT I can tell you if a problem exists on more than about 5% of anything you are going to hear about nothing but that problem. This isn't even close to what is seen.
But even if 5%-10% of K-30/K-50 were having this problem it would not even remotely approach "you can pretty count on".

The problem with anecdotal evidence is just that. It's anecdotal. My 50,000 or SSPhotography who posted of his 260,000 shutter count on his K-30 are in all likelihood, based upon star ratings, far more common.
Statistics would be great but we don't have any. I agree with this post completely.
06-07-2016, 08:46 PM   #22
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Yep, my K-30 has not had a hint of trouble.

My guess is the same mechanism is on the K-30, K-50, K-500, K-S1 and K-S2.

I'm sure it can eventually fail in the manner hypothesized in another thread (IIRC a Russian poster suggested it can become magnetized and then stick) but we're not privy to any stats AFAIK, and assume that the '10,000 actuation' number has been made up. It's not helpful to post that for us to read without a source.
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QuoteOriginally posted by KDD Quote
I am not new
I has k10d and k-7.

How do you know mid-range ?


I knew K-30/50 are MID-RANGE clearly.

I think you don't know which one entry-level or Mid-Range or High-End.
What's your problem exactly?

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Back on topic.. hmm.. Originally the K-30 was the mid-tier body in the Pentax lineup.. there was the K-r/K-500 then the K-30/K-50 and the K-5II/K-3 going from low-mid-high respectively.

Today, it is the low end / entry level body due to price mostly.

But we are at a point in DSLRs where even the entry level Pentax is quite capable.. don't let the tiers fool you. All of the cameras in the lineup can generate very nice output.
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4.5 stars at Amazon.
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3 pages of posts on this subject in a sticky thread dedicated to this subject, with about 15 people posting that they had this issue.
90% of your last who knows how many posts on this subject - every chance you can get it seems.

You had this problem on a camera you bought on E-Bay.

As someone who works in IT I can tell you if a problem exists on more than about 5% of anything you are going to hear about nothing but that problem. This isn't even close to what is seen.
But even if 5%-10% of K-30/K-50 were having this problem it would not even remotely approach "you can pretty count on".

The problem with anecdotal evidence is just that. It's anecdotal. My 50,000 or SSPhotography who posted of his 260,000 shutter count on his K-30 are in all likelihood, based upon star ratings, far more common.
Obviosly you have had the pleasure of a camera taking a dump on you , Bravo . Truth be told it is an on going issue with THE K-30 K-50 CAMERA
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Statistics would be great but we don't have any. I agree with this post completely.
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If you count my experience with K-30s and K-50s then you'd think ALL K-30s and K-50s are defective. The magnitude of this statement pales a bit when I add that that's a whole 2 K-30s and 2 K-50s. That said, it is definitely an issue.
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What's mid-range?
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What's mid-range?
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QuoteOriginally posted by niceshot Quote
cuz they are throw away cameras meant to be disposed of after 10000 acuations
I switched to Pentax after two consecutive Canon Rebels died after a total of fewer than 5000 actuations.
{I'm a low-volume user - it took me nearly eight years to take that number of pictures - which is why I'm not freaked out by my K-30's potential for aperture control issues}
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QuoteOriginally posted by KDD Quote
What's mid-range?
A speaker not as high as a tweeter and not as low as a woofer!

Seriously the same kind of logic is used. It's not the entry point - but not the high end either. In Pentax we have recently not had one - K50 was entry level (which matched features on many mid-range cameras from Nikon/Canon) and K-3 was the High End. Then the KS-1 & 2 came out and muddied the waters. Then the K3ii replaced the K-3. Then the K-1 came out.

So now I would say:
APSC Entry = K50 - soon to be K70.
APSC High End = K3ii - which will be ??? someday.
FF High End/Pro = K-1
FF Entry level = none

Still no relevant mid range line unless you consider the top end APSC a mid range in the overall lineup. KS series still stands apart.
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