Originally posted by Ron O Originally posted by photogem But.. there is a chance of about 1% against 99% that it is not the solenoid.
Please show me your data on the 99%(you) and the !%(me).
I did not say nor indicate that the 1% is you. I said I think clearly enough that in 99% of all cases it is just simply the solenoid which is jammed and with that, that the other possibilities of one of those cameras not working is about as low as 1%.
It has proven to me with many of those cameras I have repaired and much more of those cameras belonging to others I had helped that is was as such: Jammed solenoid.
Originally posted by Ron O We also have a saying in automotive that the problem was the nut behind the wheel.
It is much more likely the rusty nut on the rusty screw
Originally posted by Ron O Of course this is not insulting in any way either. I admitted that I was wrong about how this particular solenoid works and I admit that I could be wrong that the solenoid is the only problem but as yet no one has proven it to me.
Nobody needs to prove anything to you. This thread and others are there to help those who search for help with a particular problem.
And sadly sometimes we can't help. And sadly sometimes help does not arrive.
And sometimes it will be as it often is in this world: Help turns the other way round:
Originally posted by Ron O You have never admitted being wrong at any time on this thread and always reply with a condescending remark when questioned and yet, you cannot tell me anything about the voltage that runs the solenoid or at least have not yet.
This is not a psychological competition. It is not about being right or wrong.
The voltage which runs through the solenoid corresponds exactly to the voltage of the given battery, in case you use the LI-D 109 it is exactly the voltage it supplies in its momentary state/charge. This was stated often enough when discussing the difference of using eneloops.
Originally posted by Ron O Could it be you are wrong?
You sit behind the steering wheel of your K30, you tried to repair it, so finally it is up to you.
Originally posted by Ron O You should just accept the possibility too. There is nothing wrong with that.
In your particular case I have never said "it is such and such" but ...:
Originally posted by photogem Nevertheless it usually is just like that, nothing wrong with it.
I believe that you made somekind of mistake.
I think you know the meaning of "I believe"?
So lets stop discussing psychological matters, this is neither a psychological thread nor a place for magic wands.
I don't master magic wands so without having your K30 on my work-bench I cannot say anything cartain about it but just guess.
So if that is what you need for confirmation: Yes, I can only guess. But I can guess quite strong based on my experience.
And this guess remains unchanged:
1. I guess that in 99% the problem is the solenoid
2. I guess that in 99% when after a repair it does not work something went wrong during the repair.
There is nothing wrong with this and no insult.
All cameras which did not function anymore after being repaired had either
1. Been damaged during repair
or
2. Had been repaired the wrong way (sanded green solenoid) or received a new "made in China green solenoid"
or
3. as I myself experienced it, got an MZ-Series opposite polarised solenoid built in...(which I changed of course)
or
last not least....
4. had been repaired via exchange of what some name "diaphragm control block"
I have such an sample #4 here, officially repaired by Pentax/Ricoh: It had received the new "diaphragm control block" but with the green solenoid.
And it was the solenoid which had failed. I had exchanged it and the K30 works perfectly.