New Pentax body?

LuzArt · 05-07-2010, 11:38 PM

I've read different suggestions to what might come or be announced later this year.

Is it to be a model between the K-x and K7? Or higher spec'd than the K7?

Thanks
Ben

ogl · 05-07-2010, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by LuzArt

I've read different suggestions to what might come or be announced later this year.

Is it to be a model between the K-x and K7? Or higher spec'd than the K7?

Thanks
Ben

Between and Higher

LuzArt · 05-08-2010, 12:16 AM

Two bodies or an amalgam of the K-x and K7?

Zebooka · 05-08-2010, 01:13 AM

There will be three bodies this year.
1) "K-7 Super" at the end of the may - beginning of june.
2) K-5 - cam between K-x and K-7. Sort of K200D upgrade with K-x features
3) FF cam at the end of the year, after Fotokina.

Chaitanya · 05-08-2010, 01:20 AM

New SLR may be any price range for me 2 things are essential:
1. Weather Sealing
2. Top info Panel

miks · 05-08-2010, 02:49 AM

oh please let the k5 be true... then i'll buy it when its replacement comes!

aliquis · 05-08-2010, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by LuzArt

Two bodies or an amalgam of the K-x and K7?

I assume one can be reasonable sure there will be updates, at some time.

And most likely the cameras won't be crappier ;D

And since k-x is newer and it don't make sense to make a low-end update which is better than the current high-end model I think it's reasonable to expect that the K7 gets updated first and that the k-x gets updated at some time to.

Or if they decide to go full-frame format as some people want and/or evil those would be added to, and maybe then they decide they only need one DSLR for all legacy and current products.

Personally I think it's stupid to just invent a whole bunch of new lens mounts from each and every manufacturer for the evil cameras so I hope it will be compatible with something else if they go that route, and eventually just sit and wait and see how things develop before they pick a direction.

omega leader · 05-08-2010, 06:01 AM

At the moment your guess is as good as mine (though I think my goldfish may have some inside information

).

Hoya appears to have very good internal controls on leaks. Based on the last couple of releases I don't think we will see any announcements until the produce is ready to ship.

This is two fold.

- It allows the initial excitement of an announcement to be translated into more sales at a higher initial price and more profit (good).

- And two it limits the loss of sales of the old model where people put off buying it because that know for sure that there is a new model.

Just look at the apple iPhone 4 fiasco. Hoya appears to me as a much more savvy company than Pentax under its own management ever was.

gazonk · 05-08-2010, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by aliquis

Personally I think it's stupid to just invent a whole bunch of new lens mounts from each and every manufacturer for the evil cameras so I hope it will be compatible with something else if they go that route, and eventually just sit and wait and see how things develop before they pick a direction.

As I pointed out in a different thread, the nx10 and m43 mounts are remarkably large. This puts restrictions on future miniaturization. So I really hope they make their own and much smaller mount if they choose to make a mirrorless camera.

**Digitalis** · 05-08-2010, 08:17 AM

the M43 and Nx10 mounts are large indeed. but it also means they can make faster lenses for them. Though of course a 25mm f/0.75 would command a rather high price tag, and such a lens would prove irksome for Leica who currently hold the high speed champion the Noctilux 50mm f/0.95

Fl_Gulfer · 05-08-2010, 09:29 AM

I want to get the wife a K-X to replace her K100D so I can turn it into a full time IR Camera, but she says to wait till they announce a K-X WR camera.
Hope they will do that this year. If not I'll give her my K-7 and get the new camera they come out with.

psdigital · 05-08-2010, 09:52 AM

That is the one I am waiting on. I switched to Sony and although I am happy with the camera I bought, I am sort of puzzled by their new releases. I switched from Fuji/Nikon. Fuji stopped making pro cameras at least for now. It seems like Sony keeps removing features on every new camera that comes out so I have my eye on Pentax. I haven't really invested a lot in Sony yet so I can change rather easily. I was going to buy a k-7 but this talk of a sucessor has made me wait. It will be interesting to see what Pentax and Sony both have later this year. The only reason I am looking at those two is the in camera stabilization. My guess will be the Pentax will be the better of the two. Weather resistant camera and the prime lens line up are just two of the things that I like. I am hoping the high ISO noise gets corrected and the video ends up being more like Canon's video with the different speeds available. I would also like a bigger camera than the K-7. It is a little small for my hands. Other than that, the K-7 is already a great camera. I have a feeling they will gain several Sony users soon if Sony stays on the same path they are on now. If Pentax comes out with a FF camera, I know some of them will switch. I will be one of them for sure.

Just a thought though...If they make a FF camera, won't they have to make a new line of lenses? Are the lenses that they have now made for FF also? If they have to make a new line of glass, we probably won't see a FF camera for a while.

philbaum · 05-08-2010, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by aliquis

I assume one can be reasonable sure there will be updates, at some time.

And most likely the cameras won't be crappier ;D

And since k-x is newer and it don't make sense to make a low-end update which is better than the current high-end model I think it's reasonable to expect that the K7 gets updated first and that the k-x gets updated at some time to.

Or if they decide to go full-frame format as some people want and/or evil those would be added to, and maybe then they decide they only need one DSLR for all legacy and current products.

Personally I think it's stupid to just invent a whole bunch of new lens mounts from each and every manufacturer for the evil cameras so I hope it will be compatible with something else if they go that route, and eventually just sit and wait and see how things develop before they pick a direction.

aliquis,
I think you nailed it.

I don't think Pentax has ever brought out 3 cameras in one year: so its just the 645D and the K7 Super this year, and then the Kx upgrade in 2011 + an EVILl camera along the lines you are suggesting.

gazonk · 05-08-2010, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

the M43 and Nx10 mounts are large indeed. but it also means they can make faster lenses for them. Though of course a 25mm f/0.75 would command a rather high price tag, and such a lens would prove irksome for Leica who currently hold the high speed champion the Noctilux 50mm f/0.95

But the whole point of these bodies is IMHO compactness, so crazy wide max aperture is not that important. For extreme shallow DOF, use FF. A 50mm f/1.4 on FF is still better than a 25mm f/0.75 on m4/3, and is easier to focus manually than the 25mm on a VF-less body.

I think that a 28 mm wide mount on a small APS-C camera should be sufficiently wide to be able to make a 28mm f/1.4 normal lens. But more interesting on such a body would be a 28mm f/2 pancake.

Urkeldaedalus · 05-08-2010, 02:22 PM

I don't think most of us know enough at this point to say what Pentax is going to do next. There has been an increase in chatter from official sources after a little dry spell, though, and that's usually an indication that something is on the horizon. With Pentax USA releasing their multiple colored Pentax k-x options recently, I'm going to make an educated guess that Pentax will try to get the most out of the K-7 and K-x at least over the spring and early summer months and maybe announce something during the late summer or fall. The K-x continues to sell well and the K-7 is doing OK, so why throw a wrench in things?

This would also allow them to focus all of their energy on getting their 645D release done right.

Anyway, I'm excited to see what they will come up with.

05-07-2010, 11:38 PM	#1
LuzArt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Springwood, NSW Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	New Pentax body? I've read different suggestions to what might come or be announced later this year. Is it to be a model between the K-x and K7? Or higher spec'd than the K7? Thanks Ben

05-08-2010, 06:01 AM	#8
omega leader Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Niagara Region, Ontario Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 417	At the moment your guess is as good as mine (though I think my goldfish may have some inside information). Hoya appears to have very good internal controls on leaks. Based on the last couple of releases I don't think we will see any announcements until the produce is ready to ship. This is two fold. - It allows the initial excitement of an announcement to be translated into more sales at a higher initial price and more profit (good). - And two it limits the loss of sales of the old model where people put off buying it because that know for sure that there is a new model. Just look at the apple iPhone 4 fiasco. Hoya appears to me as a much more savvy company than Pentax under its own management ever was.

05-08-2010, 09:52 AM	#12
psdigital New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 24	I hope they do upgrade the K-7 That is the one I am waiting on. I switched to Sony and although I am happy with the camera I bought, I am sort of puzzled by their new releases. I switched from Fuji/Nikon. Fuji stopped making pro cameras at least for now. It seems like Sony keeps removing features on every new camera that comes out so I have my eye on Pentax. I haven't really invested a lot in Sony yet so I can change rather easily. I was going to buy a k-7 but this talk of a sucessor has made me wait. It will be interesting to see what Pentax and Sony both have later this year. The only reason I am looking at those two is the in camera stabilization. My guess will be the Pentax will be the better of the two. Weather resistant camera and the prime lens line up are just two of the things that I like. I am hoping the high ISO noise gets corrected and the video ends up being more like Canon's video with the different speeds available. I would also like a bigger camera than the K-7. It is a little small for my hands. Other than that, the K-7 is already a great camera. I have a feeling they will gain several Sony users soon if Sony stays on the same path they are on now. If Pentax comes out with a FF camera, I know some of them will switch. I will be one of them for sure. Just a thought though...If they make a FF camera, won't they have to make a new line of lenses? Are the lenses that they have now made for FF also? If they have to make a new line of glass, we probably won't see a FF camera for a while. Last edited by psdigital; 05-08-2010 at 10:05 AM. Reason: Thought about FF lens lineup

05-08-2010, 11:36 AM	#14
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Digitalis the M43 and Nx10 mounts are large indeed. but it also means they can make faster lenses for them. Though of course a 25mm f/0.75 would command a rather high price tag, and such a lens would prove irksome for Leica who currently hold the high speed champion the Noctilux 50mm f/0.95 But the whole point of these bodies is IMHO compactness, so crazy wide max aperture is not that important. For extreme shallow DOF, use FF. A 50mm f/1.4 on FF is still better than a 25mm f/0.75 on m4/3, and is easier to focus manually than the 25mm on a VF-less body. I think that a 28 mm wide mount on a small APS-C camera should be sufficiently wide to be able to make a 28mm f/1.4 normal lens. But more interesting on such a body would be a 28mm f/2 pancake. Last edited by gazonk; 05-08-2010 at 04:12 PM. Reason: typo

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05-07-2010, 11:59 PM	#2
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by LuzArt I've read different suggestions to what might come or be announced later this year. Is it to be a model between the K-x and K7? Or higher spec'd than the K7? Thanks Ben Between and Higher

05-08-2010, 12:16 AM	#3
LuzArt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Springwood, NSW Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 121 Original Poster	Two bodies or an amalgam of the K-x and K7?

05-08-2010, 01:13 AM	#4
Zebooka Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Russia, Siberia, Novosibirsk Posts: 323	There will be three bodies this year. 1) "K-7 Super" at the end of the may - beginning of june. 2) K-5 - cam between K-x and K-7. Sort of K200D upgrade with K-x features 3) FF cam at the end of the year, after Fotokina.

05-08-2010, 01:20 AM	#5
Chaitanya Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pune Photos: Gallery Posts: 80	New SLR may be any price range for me 2 things are essential: 1. Weather Sealing 2. Top info Panel

05-08-2010, 02:49 AM	#6
miks Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 49	oh please let the k5 be true... then i'll buy it when its replacement comes!

05-08-2010, 02:52 AM	#7
aliquis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Örebro Posts: 207	Originally posted by LuzArt Two bodies or an amalgam of the K-x and K7? I assume one can be reasonable sure there will be updates, at some time. And most likely the cameras won't be crappier ;D And since k-x is newer and it don't make sense to make a low-end update which is better than the current high-end model I think it's reasonable to expect that the K7 gets updated first and that the k-x gets updated at some time to. Or if they decide to go full-frame format as some people want and/or evil those would be added to, and maybe then they decide they only need one DSLR for all legacy and current products. Personally I think it's stupid to just invent a whole bunch of new lens mounts from each and every manufacturer for the evil cameras so I hope it will be compatible with something else if they go that route, and eventually just sit and wait and see how things develop before they pick a direction.

05-08-2010, 06:24 AM	#9
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by aliquis Personally I think it's stupid to just invent a whole bunch of new lens mounts from each and every manufacturer for the evil cameras so I hope it will be compatible with something else if they go that route, and eventually just sit and wait and see how things develop before they pick a direction. As I pointed out in a different thread, the nx10 and m43 mounts are remarkably large. This puts restrictions on future miniaturization. So I really hope they make their own and much smaller mount if they choose to make a mirrorless camera.

05-08-2010, 08:17 AM	#10
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	the M43 and Nx10 mounts are large indeed. but it also means they can make faster lenses for them. Though of course a 25mm f/0.75 would command a rather high price tag, and such a lens would prove irksome for Leica who currently hold the high speed champion the Noctilux 50mm f/0.95

05-08-2010, 09:29 AM	#11
Fl_Gulfer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Gulfer Photos: Albums Posts: 3,054	I want to get the wife a K-X to replace her K100D so I can turn it into a full time IR Camera, but she says to wait till they announce a K-X WR camera. Hope they will do that this year. If not I'll give her my K-7 and get the new camera they come out with.

05-08-2010, 11:32 AM	#13
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Originally posted by aliquis I assume one can be reasonable sure there will be updates, at some time. And most likely the cameras won't be crappier ;D And since k-x is newer and it don't make sense to make a low-end update which is better than the current high-end model I think it's reasonable to expect that the K7 gets updated first and that the k-x gets updated at some time to. Or if they decide to go full-frame format as some people want and/or evil those would be added to, and maybe then they decide they only need one DSLR for all legacy and current products. Personally I think it's stupid to just invent a whole bunch of new lens mounts from each and every manufacturer for the evil cameras so I hope it will be compatible with something else if they go that route, and eventually just sit and wait and see how things develop before they pick a direction. aliquis, I think you nailed it. I don't think Pentax has ever brought out 3 cameras in one year: so its just the 645D and the K7 Super this year, and then the Kx upgrade in 2011 + an EVILl camera along the lines you are suggesting.

05-08-2010, 02:22 PM	#15
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	I don't think most of us know enough at this point to say what Pentax is going to do next. There has been an increase in chatter from official sources after a little dry spell, though, and that's usually an indication that something is on the horizon. With Pentax USA releasing their multiple colored Pentax k-x options recently, I'm going to make an educated guess that Pentax will try to get the most out of the K-7 and K-x at least over the spring and early summer months and maybe announce something during the late summer or fall. The K-x continues to sell well and the K-7 is doing OK, so why throw a wrench in things? This would also allow them to focus all of their energy on getting their 645D release done right. Anyway, I'm excited to see what they will come up with.