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gazonk · 05-12-2010, 01:16 AM

The automatic translators have a hard time with the presumably formal/polite Japanese in this announcement, but I think they say that release is delayed from May 20th to June 11th because customer demand has exceeded expectations:

??????????????PENTAX 645D????????????????PENTAX

wlachan · 05-12-2010, 01:44 AM

Not a bad news I guess. It is funny how they miscalculated the market demand so often.

dangie · 05-12-2010, 01:57 AM

Or even funnier..(not).. how they miscalculate release dates so often.

thibs · 05-12-2010, 02:02 AM

You both are so funny indeed.

wlachan · 05-12-2010, 02:19 AM

Nothing wrong to be funny.

lithos · 05-12-2010, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by wlachan

Not a bad news I guess. It is funny how they miscalculated the market demand so often.

It wouldn't be Pentax if they didn't misunderstand the consumers a little bit.

"Meh, it's a 40 megapixel medium format camera that sells for less than a Nikon D3x. No one's gonna want this thing."

RMabo · 05-12-2010, 02:36 AM

I believe a bit of clarification is needed.
Pentax has pushed forward the release date - when the camera will be out in the shops - because they needs time making more 645D's so they builds up an inventory, a stock, to meet the demand. It is in production!

Same thing happened with the K10D and the DA Star 16-50 by the way...

gazonk · 05-12-2010, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

I believe a bit of clarification is needed.
Pentax has pushed forward the release date - when the camera will be out in the shops - because they needs time making more 645D's so they builds up an inventory, a stock, to meet the demand. It is in production!

Sure it's in production - after all we're talking about a delay of only 3 weeks.

omega leader · 05-12-2010, 03:55 AM

3 weeks will give them an additional production of about 375 units (500/month).

I don't really see how this will help. Unless they production rate is significantly higher than initial stated.

ogl · 05-12-2010, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by omega leader

3 weeks will give them an additional production of about 375 units (500/month).

I don't really see how this will help. Unless they production rate is significantly higher than initial stated.

Pentax could start to produce 645D from December, 2009, for example.

**Pål Jensen** · 05-12-2010, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by omega leader

3 weeks will give them an additional production of about 375 units (500/month).

I don't really see how this will help. Unless they production rate is significantly higher than initial stated.

My guess is that the 500 units a month were conservative numbers; a worst case scenario number to be on the safe side. Pentax may have doubled the volume...

ghelary · 05-12-2010, 08:15 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

My guess is that the 500 units a month were conservative numbers; a worst case scenario number to be on the safe side. Pentax may have doubled the volume...

That would be very good news. The higher the number of 645D sold, the more effort Hoya/Pentax will put in the system. I think everybody here would like to see things like a CMOS 645D or 60Mpx FF 645D.

The downside of it would be that it would push further in the future a 35mm "FF" DSLR. (I don't really care personnaly, if I can get get an "affordable" digital MF)

Guillaume

Blue · 05-12-2010, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Sure it's in production - after all we're talking about a delay of only 3 weeks.

3 weeks plus 3 years

does make this short delay seem trivial.

Edit: They may be going back through assembled units and updating firmware, waiting on kit lenses or something.

Samsungian · 05-12-2010, 09:44 AM

3 years late ? Make that 5 years 2 months late

Some 62 months has passed since 645D was first announced...

Here's the March 15th 2005 645D Pentax USA announcement

Pentax 645 Digital, 18.6 megapixel: Digital Photography Review

Blue · 05-12-2010, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by Samsungian

3 years late ? Make that 5 years 2 months late

Some 62 months has passed since 645D was first announced...

Here's the March 15th 2005 645D Pentax USA announcement

Pentax 645 Digital, 18.6 megapixel: Digital Photography Review

Notice, I didn't say unveiling of the 645D. That was just the unveiling of the prototype. Over the past 50 years, Asahi/Pentax has unveiled interesting proto types that never went into production, both cameras and lenses. The trend under Hoya is to not show prototypes. Given the fast pace of todays R&D, that's probably a good strategy.

05-12-2010, 01:16 AM	#1
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,645	645D release moved to June 11th The automatic translators have a hard time with the presumably formal/polite Japanese in this announcement, but I think they say that release is delayed from May 20th to June 11th because customer demand has exceeded expectations: ??????????????PENTAX 645D????????????????PENTAX

05-12-2010, 09:44 AM	#14
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	3 years late ? Make that 5 years 2 months late 3 years late ? Make that 5 years 2 months late Some 62 months has passed since 645D was first announced... Here's the March 15th 2005 645D Pentax USA announcement Pentax 645 Digital, 18.6 megapixel: Digital Photography Review

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wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	Not a bad news I guess. It is funny how they miscalculated the market demand so often.

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thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 6,231	You both are so funny indeed.

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wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	Nothing wrong to be funny.

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lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,262	Originally posted by wlachan Not a bad news I guess. It is funny how they miscalculated the market demand so often. It wouldn't be Pentax if they didn't misunderstand the consumers a little bit. "Meh, it's a 40 megapixel medium format camera that sells for less than a Nikon D3x. No one's gonna want this thing."

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RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	I believe a bit of clarification is needed. Pentax has pushed forward the release date - when the camera will be out in the shops - because they needs time making more 645D's so they builds up an inventory, a stock, to meet the demand. It is in production! Same thing happened with the K10D and the DA Star 16-50 by the way...

05-12-2010, 03:44 AM	#8
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,645 Original Poster	Originally posted by RMabo I believe a bit of clarification is needed. Pentax has pushed forward the release date - when the camera will be out in the shops - because they needs time making more 645D's so they builds up an inventory, a stock, to meet the demand. It is in production! Sure it's in production - after all we're talking about a delay of only 3 weeks.

05-12-2010, 03:55 AM	#9
omega leader Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Niagara Region, Ontario Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 417	3 weeks will give them an additional production of about 375 units (500/month). I don't really see how this will help. Unless they production rate is significantly higher than initial stated.

05-12-2010, 04:39 AM	#10
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,385	Originally posted by omega leader 3 weeks will give them an additional production of about 375 units (500/month). I don't really see how this will help. Unless they production rate is significantly higher than initial stated. Pentax could start to produce 645D from December, 2009, for example.

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Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 3,783	Originally posted by omega leader 3 weeks will give them an additional production of about 375 units (500/month). I don't really see how this will help. Unless they production rate is significantly higher than initial stated. My guess is that the 500 units a month were conservative numbers; a worst case scenario number to be on the safe side. Pentax may have doubled the volume...

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05-12-2010, 08:15 AM - 1 Like	#12
ghelary Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 613	Originally posted by Pål Jensen My guess is that the 500 units a month were conservative numbers; a worst case scenario number to be on the safe side. Pentax may have doubled the volume... That would be very good news. The higher the number of 645D sold, the more effort Hoya/Pentax will put in the system. I think everybody here would like to see things like a CMOS 645D or 60Mpx FF 645D. The downside of it would be that it would push further in the future a 35mm "FF" DSLR. (I don't really care personnaly, if I can get get an "affordable" digital MF) Guillaume

05-12-2010, 08:40 AM	#13
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,298	Originally posted by gazonk Sure it's in production - after all we're talking about a delay of only 3 weeks. 3 weeks plus 3 years does make this short delay seem trivial. Edit: They may be going back through assembled units and updating firmware, waiting on kit lenses or something.

05-12-2010, 10:08 AM	#15
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,298	Originally posted by Samsungian 3 years late ? Make that 5 years 2 months late Some 62 months has passed since 645D was first announced... Here's the March 15th 2005 645D Pentax USA announcement Pentax 645 Digital, 18.6 megapixel: Digital Photography Review Notice, I didn't say unveiling of the 645D. That was just the unveiling of the prototype. Over the past 50 years, Asahi/Pentax has unveiled interesting proto types that never went into production, both cameras and lenses. The trend under Hoya is to not show prototypes. Given the fast pace of todays R&D, that's probably a good strategy.

645D release moved to June 11th

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