[L]?

NecroticSoldier · 05-25-2010, 02:42 PM

I'm not trying to start a rumour or anything... but does anyone have any idea between the connection of the [L] from the MZ-L

And the Panasonic DMC-ZS7/DMC-TZ10?

I'm not sure.... It COULD be just me though...

Last edited by NecroticSoldier; 05-25-2010 at 02:50 PM.

Adam · 05-25-2010, 04:06 PM

Doesn't seem like a connection at all. One is almost 20 years newer than the other, and the letter has a different shape if you look closely.

dnaseigel · 05-25-2010, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by NecroticSoldier

I'm not trying to start a rumour or anything... but does anyone have any idea between the connection of the [L] from the MZ-L

And the Panasonic DMC-ZS7/DMC-TZ10?

I'm not sure.... It COULD be just me though...

I looked through a massive list of available fonts for the limited number of letters and found many fonts that have a very similar look to this L. As a former font guru and designer, maybe Ned Bunnell could weigh in as to whether this is coincidence or if Panasonic and Pentax have some deeper connection.

NecroticSoldier · 05-25-2010, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by dnaseigel

I looked through a massive list of available fonts for the limited number of letters and found many fonts that have a very similar look to this L. As a former font guru and designer, maybe Ned Bunnell could weigh in as to whether this is coincidence or if Panasonic and Pentax have some deeper connection.

I'm not a font guru ;/. Might just be a coincidence... but as soon as I saw this camera MZ-L popped up in my mind. It would have been more connected if it was Samsung, but it isn't ;/.

Originally posted by Adam

Doesn't seem like a connection at all. One is almost 20 years newer than the other, and the letter has a different shape if you look closely.

Umm maybe at the bottom left? that's the only possible difference I see.

PrimeObjectif · 05-25-2010, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by NecroticSoldier

I'm not a font guru ;/. Might just be a coincidence... but as soon as I saw this camera MZ-L popped up in my mind. It would have been more connected if it was Samsung, but it isn't ;/.

Umm maybe at the bottom left? that's the only possible difference I see.

[L] is for Leica. It's been on various Lumix cameras for sometime.

MacKay · 05-25-2010, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by PrimeObjectif

[L] is for Leica. It's been on various Lumix cameras for sometime.

I think that the L is for Lumix, i have a Panasonic camera that is a Lumix and it does not have a Leica lens on it.

NecroticSoldier · 05-25-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by MacKay

I think that the L is for Lumix, i have a Panasonic camera that is a Lumix and it does not have a Leica lens on it.

Oh you're right! it's on ALL of the cameras... except for one of the series in the compact camera selection. The FPs (1,2, and 3).

;/.. but why this L? why not a simple block lettered one like the one in the Lumix name?

PrimeObjectif · 05-25-2010, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by NecroticSoldier

Oh you're right! it's on ALL of the cameras... except for one of the series in the compact camera selection. The FPs (1,2, and 3).

;/.. but why this L? why not a simple block lettered one like the one in the Lumix name?

Because it's for Leica.

I'm posting from my phone, so I don't have access to a link that supports that statement-- I'm sure a quick Google search will pull up Panasonic's explaination of the "L"

NecroticSoldier · 05-25-2010, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by PrimeObjectif

Because it's for Leica.

I'm posting from my phone, so I don't have access to a link that supports that statement-- I'm sure a quick Google search will pull up Panasonic's explaination of the "L"

Hmm... I can't seem to find one atm.. ;/. I'm not really sure what to search too.

Asahiflex · 05-25-2010, 11:37 PM

Let's not forget the SMC Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special!

lithos · 05-26-2010, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by dnaseigel

As a former font guru and designer, maybe Ned Bunnell could weigh in as to whether this is coincidence or if Panasonic and Pentax have some deeper connection.

Maybe he's just sent the vat-grown, highly-trained, highly-lethal, highly-expendable corporate ninjas out to Panasonic's US HQ to show what Pentax does to copyright thieves.

Or at least the Pentax winged monkeys.

ebayatli · 05-26-2010, 10:02 AM

It seems that there was a link between Pentax and Leica indeed. As Asahiflex from Germany posted the pic of his legendary 43mm f/1.9 lens (I wish I had that lens), this is what I found out about it:

"This Lens was manufactured for Leica-L mounts in Year 2000 by PENTAX. Only 2000 units were manufactured", and hence the words "Limited" or "Special". "It is the only Lens for which Pentax ever created for other Camera-Mount."

"The Optical Designer of the lens is a Legend Optical Designer, Jun Hirakawa in Japan. Optical system Design is the same as famous K-mount Lens FA43mm f1.9 Limited Lens".

I am not a professional photographer, nor am I an Optics Engineer, but it is said that the Pentax 43mm f/1.9 and Canon's recent 50mm f1.8 were the sharpest lenses ever made for optical use.

thibs · 05-26-2010, 01:42 PM

Canon 50/1.8? Is there a new version? If so, not difficult to do better than previous ones I was told (and specifically say so because I have no data personally to confirm this).

MacKay · 05-26-2010, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by PrimeObjectif

Because it's for Leica.

I'm posting from my phone, so I don't have access to a link that supports that statement-- I'm sure a quick Google search will pull up Panasonic's explaination of the "L"

i googled but could not find any info on that and it didn't even say it on wikipedia. can you find the link

Zebooka · 05-26-2010, 08:00 PM

OH! My! God!
IT'S LEICA!

L is for Leica - se their logo (they have two - L and Leica).

05-25-2010, 02:42 PM	#1
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05-25-2010, 04:23 PM	#3
dnaseigel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rockford, IL Photos: Gallery Posts: 179	Originally posted by NecroticSoldier I'm not trying to start a rumour or anything... but does anyone have any idea between the connection of the [L] from the MZ-L And the Panasonic DMC-ZS7/DMC-TZ10? I'm not sure.... It COULD be just me though... I looked through a massive list of available fonts for the limited number of letters and found many fonts that have a very similar look to this L. As a former font guru and designer, maybe Ned Bunnell could weigh in as to whether this is coincidence or if Panasonic and Pentax have some deeper connection.

05-25-2010, 04:38 PM	#4
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by dnaseigel I looked through a massive list of available fonts for the limited number of letters and found many fonts that have a very similar look to this L. As a former font guru and designer, maybe Ned Bunnell could weigh in as to whether this is coincidence or if Panasonic and Pentax have some deeper connection. I'm not a font guru ;/. Might just be a coincidence... but as soon as I saw this camera MZ-L popped up in my mind. It would have been more connected if it was Samsung, but it isn't ;/. Originally posted by Adam Doesn't seem like a connection at all. One is almost 20 years newer than the other, and the letter has a different shape if you look closely. Umm maybe at the bottom left? that's the only possible difference I see.

05-25-2010, 05:19 PM	#5
PrimeObjectif Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 599	Originally posted by NecroticSoldier I'm not a font guru ;/. Might just be a coincidence... but as soon as I saw this camera MZ-L popped up in my mind. It would have been more connected if it was Samsung, but it isn't ;/. Umm maybe at the bottom left? that's the only possible difference I see. [L] is for Leica. It's been on various Lumix cameras for sometime.

05-25-2010, 06:04 PM	#6
MacKay Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fredericton Posts: 68	Originally posted by PrimeObjectif [L] is for Leica. It's been on various Lumix cameras for sometime. I think that the L is for Lumix, i have a Panasonic camera that is a Lumix and it does not have a Leica lens on it.

05-25-2010, 06:17 PM	#7
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by MacKay I think that the L is for Lumix, i have a Panasonic camera that is a Lumix and it does not have a Leica lens on it. Oh you're right! it's on ALL of the cameras... except for one of the series in the compact camera selection. The FPs (1,2, and 3). ;/.. but why this L? why not a simple block lettered one like the one in the Lumix name?

05-25-2010, 06:43 PM	#8
PrimeObjectif Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 599	Originally posted by NecroticSoldier Oh you're right! it's on ALL of the cameras... except for one of the series in the compact camera selection. The FPs (1,2, and 3). ;/.. but why this L? why not a simple block lettered one like the one in the Lumix name? Because it's for Leica. I'm posting from my phone, so I don't have access to a link that supports that statement-- I'm sure a quick Google search will pull up Panasonic's explaination of the "L"

05-25-2010, 06:54 PM	#9
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by PrimeObjectif Because it's for Leica. I'm posting from my phone, so I don't have access to a link that supports that statement-- I'm sure a quick Google search will pull up Panasonic's explaination of the "L" Hmm... I can't seem to find one atm.. ;/. I'm not really sure what to search too.

05-25-2010, 11:37 PM	#10
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Let's not forget the SMC Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special!

05-26-2010, 04:17 AM	#11
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by dnaseigel As a former font guru and designer, maybe Ned Bunnell could weigh in as to whether this is coincidence or if Panasonic and Pentax have some deeper connection. Maybe he's just sent the vat-grown, highly-trained, highly-lethal, highly-expendable corporate ninjas out to Panasonic's US HQ to show what Pentax does to copyright thieves. Or at least the Pentax winged monkeys.

05-26-2010, 10:02 AM	#12
ebayatli New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 10	It seems that there was a link between Pentax and Leica indeed. As Asahiflex from Germany posted the pic of his legendary 43mm f/1.9 lens (I wish I had that lens), this is what I found out about it: "This Lens was manufactured for Leica-L mounts in Year 2000 by PENTAX. Only 2000 units were manufactured", and hence the words "Limited" or "Special". "It is the only Lens for which Pentax ever created for other Camera-Mount." "The Optical Designer of the lens is a Legend Optical Designer, Jun Hirakawa in Japan. Optical system Design is the same as famous K-mount Lens FA43mm f1.9 Limited Lens". I am not a professional photographer, nor am I an Optics Engineer, but it is said that the Pentax 43mm f/1.9 and Canon's recent 50mm f1.8 were the sharpest lenses ever made for optical use.

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05-26-2010, 01:42 PM	#13
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Canon 50/1.8? Is there a new version? If so, not difficult to do better than previous ones I was told (and specifically say so because I have no data personally to confirm this).

05-26-2010, 05:02 PM	#14
MacKay Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fredericton Posts: 68	Originally posted by PrimeObjectif Because it's for Leica. I'm posting from my phone, so I don't have access to a link that supports that statement-- I'm sure a quick Google search will pull up Panasonic's explaination of the "L" i googled but could not find any info on that and it didn't even say it on wikipedia. can you find the link

05-26-2010, 08:00 PM	#15
Zebooka Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Russia, Siberia, Novosibirsk Posts: 323	OH! My! God! IT'S LEICA! L is for Leica - se their logo (they have two - L and Leica).