Originally posted by goubejp My 2 cents about FF:
I have read the photozone lens tests on Canon - lenses tested on full frame; it's a pity - if you consider the wide angle under 50 mm - where theorically the full frame has an advantage - none of the lenses exceeds 3 stars; vignetting sometimes reaches 3 EV - yes there you need a sensor to recover 2 EV of underexposure to fix that; and to get acceptable results you have to stop down at 5.6 - tell me about the tiny depth of field of full frame. Only Nikon seems to have been able to design good zooms for full frame - but these are only zooms, not primes, none beyond f2.8... so what is the advantage of using full frame with poor lenses ?
Another story coming from real experience; the wedding of my nephew last year; I know very well the professional who was in charge of the wedding, and of course as a serious professional he uses Canon full frame - and he took some time to explain why. And guess what, he uses a 28-150 Canon zoom... I was there with 2 Pentax bodies, one with the FA*85, one with the FA 31 limited; for the price of the Canon full frame I could afford 4 Pentax bodies... the comparison between the images produces by the serious full frame and the amateur body... the bokey of the Canon zoom is just horrible, I used the FA84 at F2 400 iso in the wedding room without flash - as he had to push the Canon to 1600 or 3200 iso as he was obliged to use the zoom at f4; what body do you think took the best pictures ?
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Thanks for the story. But how can you compare pictures taken from 2 of the best pentax (FA
) lenses with a probably terrible Canon L (yes there is bad ones, ecpecially long ones). If this pro was using a 5DII with a 135 f/2, then there were no competition anymore.
For wide lens with more than 3 stars, I advise you to check to Samyang 14mm. I will buy it with my next FF, wathever brand it will be.
I am Pentaxian, I can live with primes, even if mot Pentax ones. Zoom are sometime bad, but then do not say that tehy are all bad. Just take a look of the 70-200 L!
Then I know that a FF (especially the actual ones) are bigger and heavier. But if it is the price for higher IQ, I am ok with it. I need good (very) low light portrait shoot (I usually shoot f/1.4 iso 1600 1/15sec with my K20D which is usually not enough). And would also love a lot of pixels fir landscape. So I think 5DII would fit perfectly, especially with the good and not too much expensive (compared to Nikon) Canon L lens line up (furthermore mostly stabilized, not true for Nikon). But sure if Pentax announce a FF, I will take a look before switching.