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cousinsane · 06-13-2010, 01:59 PM

I am sorry. Have you ever held a ZX-L in your hands before? I'd do some research before mouthing off.

Originally posted by Blue

The L doesn't either and with the S you give up some of the pentaprism. Furthermore, the L has a pentamirror. So what is your point? That's why for AF film, the aperture rings are important. The point of this is to test for cropping in the viewfinder and on the film.

Blue · 06-13-2010, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by cousinsane

I am sorry. Have you ever held a ZX-L in your hands before? I'd do some research before mouthing off.

Yes as well as an MZ-3. You are the one mouthing off. I'd suggest you take some of your own advice.

cousinsane · 06-13-2010, 02:16 PM

Well, I guess you weren't paying much attention when you held the ZX-L.
And you should have done some research before replying to my post.

I've shot many rolls of film with my DA70 on ZX-L. So believe me, you can manually select aperture value on ZX-L

Originally posted by Blue

Yes as well as an MZ-3. You are the one mouthing off. I'd suggest you take some of your own advice.

Blue · 06-13-2010, 02:36 PM

Maybe not, but I did pay attention to the pentamirror and realized it was smaller than my K200d's pentamirror.

Originally posted by cousinsane

Well, I guess you weren't paying much attention when you held the ZX-L.
And you should have done some research before replying to my post.

I've shot many rolls of film with my DA70 on ZX-L. So believe me, you can manually select aperture value on ZX-L

Angevinn · 06-13-2010, 03:20 PM

Great post Falk and very sound reasoning regarding FullFrame. Ned might be a nice guy but he has to tow the line for the parent company in Japan. I don't buy the whole argument that old lenses (legacy glass) can't be used on FF DSLR's either. A couple close friends of mine have Canon 5D Mark II's and get great results from old lenses. Flickr is also a great place to see what FullFrame cameras can do.

I'm definitely in the market for a FullFrame K-Mount Pentax DSLR and some new D-FA primes. Hurry up already Hoya/Pentax!

(Now if we can just talk Fuji into producing some prime FullFrame lenses (16, 24, 50, 85, 105, 135) for the major camera mounts (Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony) using the EBC coatings I'd be on cloud nine!)

Originally posted by falconeye

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Until I actually did a serious measurement of this lens, I judge it based on the fact that Pentax patented the lens as a full frame lens and that me and several others cannot see any sign of vignetting when looking through a FF viewfinder (just tried again). I've seen the serious vignetting claim as well (1 Chinese post) and don't believe it. I actually watched the exit pupil getting obscured at a given angle which lies slightly outside the full frame image plane...

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Votesh · 06-13-2010, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by builttospill

Just my opinion, but this would be a mistake.

A mistake in my mind too. I wouldn't buy a lens without an aperture ring these days.

06-13-2010, 03:20 PM	#65
Angevinn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago, Ill. Posts: 204	Hear, Hear! Great post Falk and very sound reasoning regarding FullFrame. Ned might be a nice guy but he has to tow the line for the parent company in Japan. I don't buy the whole argument that old lenses (legacy glass) can't be used on FF DSLR's either. A couple close friends of mine have Canon 5D Mark II's and get great results from old lenses. Flickr is also a great place to see what FullFrame cameras can do. I'm definitely in the market for a FullFrame K-Mount Pentax DSLR and some new D-FA primes. Hurry up already Hoya/Pentax! (Now if we can just talk Fuji into producing some prime FullFrame lenses (16, 24, 50, 85, 105, 135) for the major camera mounts (Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony) using the EBC coatings I'd be on cloud nine!) Originally posted by falconeye ... (abridged) Until I actually did a serious measurement of this lens, I judge it based on the fact that Pentax patented the lens as a full frame lens and that me and several others cannot see any sign of vignetting when looking through a FF viewfinder (just tried again). I've seen the serious vignetting claim as well (1 Chinese post) and don't believe it. I actually watched the exit pupil getting obscured at a given angle which lies slightly outside the full frame image plane... (abridged) Last edited by Angevinn; 06-13-2010 at 03:46 PM.

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06-13-2010, 01:59 PM	#61
cousinsane Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: madison Posts: 239	I am sorry. Have you ever held a ZX-L in your hands before? I'd do some research before mouthing off. Originally posted by Blue The L doesn't either and with the S you give up some of the pentaprism. Furthermore, the L has a pentamirror. So what is your point? That's why for AF film, the aperture rings are important. The point of this is to test for cropping in the viewfinder and on the film.

06-13-2010, 02:04 PM	#62
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by cousinsane I am sorry. Have you ever held a ZX-L in your hands before? I'd do some research before mouthing off. Yes as well as an MZ-3. You are the one mouthing off. I'd suggest you take some of your own advice.

06-13-2010, 02:16 PM	#63
cousinsane Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: madison Posts: 239	Well, I guess you weren't paying much attention when you held the ZX-L. And you should have done some research before replying to my post. I've shot many rolls of film with my DA70 on ZX-L. So believe me, you can manually select aperture value on ZX-L Originally posted by Blue Yes as well as an MZ-3. You are the one mouthing off. I'd suggest you take some of your own advice.

06-13-2010, 02:36 PM	#64
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Maybe not, but I did pay attention to the pentamirror and realized it was smaller than my K200d's pentamirror. Originally posted by cousinsane Well, I guess you weren't paying much attention when you held the ZX-L. And you should have done some research before replying to my post. I've shot many rolls of film with my DA70 on ZX-L. So believe me, you can manually select aperture value on ZX-L

06-13-2010, 04:26 PM	#66
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	Originally posted by builttospill Just my opinion, but this would be a mistake. A mistake in my mind too. I wouldn't buy a lens without an aperture ring these days.