Some speculation on the Pro Model (K-5) Specs

johnmflores · 06-15-2010, 05:46 AM

Is this the thread where I can order my custom-built, one-off Pentax? I'll have a WR EVIL please, hold the pickles.

Gooshin · 06-15-2010, 11:03 AM

K7 body
K-X sensor

it really is that simple

durr

zackspeed · 06-15-2010, 01:55 PM

Oh,why the K-x Sensor?
No,i don´t want him.

And better,don´t get him

FullertonImages · 06-15-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

K7 body
K-X sensor

it really is that simple

durr

Everyone keeps saying this. But the only thing the K-x sensor does better than the K-7 is high ISO. K-7 sensor has better contrast, better color, better sharpness, better video quality. At ISO 100-400, the K-x sensor looks like garbage compared to K-7 sensor.

zackspeed · 06-15-2010, 02:29 PM

see it similar.
noise is not all.
Apart of that,i don´t like any aps-c cams,if used at 3200asa.
My K-7 is till 2500asa and RAW in the same range as well as the comparable bodys.
Most important,NO chrominance nois,only colorless luminance noise.
But,4 eyes,4 opinions

noise regards,andy

Winder · 06-15-2010, 02:46 PM

IMHO Kx sensor would be a huge mistake. Sony has a couple of new sensors coming out that should be pretty impressive. Of course those sensors will not be cheap, and Pentax may decide to go with an older sensor to save money and sell at a lower price.

The new Samsung senor looks promising, and Pentax may be better off buying from Samsung.

zackspeed · 06-15-2010, 02:51 PM

Why?Nobody knows about the new Samsung Sensor.

Pentaxor · 06-15-2010, 02:53 PM

most of my shots are done from ISO 100/200 - 400, sometimes if the demand calls for it, I shoot at ISO 800, and very rarely use ISO 1600, much more so at ISO 3200 which is the limit for acceptable images. if High ISO from 1600 or 3200 to 6,400 is as good as the images shot at ISO 200, then it's a great sensor. if it's merely having a slightly much better HIGH ISO, then I'd be better off doing some PP NR work. although I would still prefer and need a fullframe.

Winder · 06-15-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Why?Nobody knows about the new Samsung Sensor.

The S5K1N2? where the specs shown to be a hoax?

Image Sensors World: Samsung Mysterious DSLR Sensor with Pseudo-Multi Sample Readout

zackspeed · 06-15-2010, 03:05 PM

Nobody knows....spec or not.
We will see what the Photokina will bring.
Hope the best for us.

Winder · 06-15-2010, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Nobody knows....spec or not.
We will see what the Photokina will bring.
Hope the best for us.

All I said was it "look interesting". I did not say Pentax was going to use it.

falconeye · 06-15-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

But,4 eyes,4 opinions

Is the split brain syndrome that common?

zackspeed · 06-15-2010, 03:42 PM

like 10 test=11 results

tigrebleu · 06-15-2010, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by C.W Tsorotes

Really? lol

I found the K-7 just too small to be comfortable, I use it all the time with the grip. I've held a Canon 1Ds and yes it's big but it's comfortable.

But from a psychological point of view a big Pro Pentax camera may strike fear into the Canikonites

Agreed.

And if it's a FULL pro body, expect it to be similar in size to other pro bodies from competitors.

This could mean anything as large as a D700 to something even bigger like a D3/D3s (or in the realm of the EOS 7D/5DII to EOS 1D/1Ds, if you want to compare to Canon instead).

Otherwise, the other specs are quite realistic.

Probably APS-C with around 15 Mpix, but who knows? Maybe Pentax will dare to offer 3 sensor formats (APS-C, 645D and FF)?

Gooshin · 06-15-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by FullertonImages

Everyone keeps saying this. But the only thing the K-x sensor does better than the K-7 is high ISO. K-7 sensor has better contrast, better color, better sharpness, better video quality. At ISO 100-400, the K-x sensor looks like garbage compared to K-7 sensor.

the K-X sensor has better dynamic range through out the entire ISO range

more DR, better photo, end of story

you can manipulate contrast, colour, sharpness

you cannot create dynamic range where there is none, unless you shoot HDR, but HDR can only work under specific conditions

06-15-2010, 04:05 PM	#59
tigrebleu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lévis, Canada (Québec) Posts: 144	Originally posted by C.W Tsorotes Really? lol I found the K-7 just too small to be comfortable, I use it all the time with the grip. I've held a Canon 1Ds and yes it's big but it's comfortable. But from a psychological point of view a big Pro Pentax camera may strike fear into the Canikonites Agreed. And if it's a FULL pro body, expect it to be similar in size to other pro bodies from competitors. This could mean anything as large as a D700 to something even bigger like a D3/D3s (or in the realm of the EOS 7D/5DII to EOS 1D/1Ds, if you want to compare to Canon instead). Otherwise, the other specs are quite realistic. Probably APS-C with around 15 Mpix, but who knows? Maybe Pentax will dare to offer 3 sensor formats (APS-C, 645D and FF)? Last edited by tigrebleu; 06-15-2010 at 09:06 PM.

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06-15-2010, 05:46 AM	#46
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Is this the thread where I can order my custom-built, one-off Pentax? I'll have a WR EVIL please, hold the pickles.

06-15-2010, 11:03 AM	#47
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	K7 body K-X sensor it really is that simple durr

06-15-2010, 01:55 PM	#48
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Oh,why the K-x Sensor? No,i don´t want him. And better,don´t get him

06-15-2010, 02:15 PM	#49
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Originally posted by Gooshin K7 body K-X sensor it really is that simple durr Everyone keeps saying this. But the only thing the K-x sensor does better than the K-7 is high ISO. K-7 sensor has better contrast, better color, better sharpness, better video quality. At ISO 100-400, the K-x sensor looks like garbage compared to K-7 sensor.

06-15-2010, 02:29 PM	#50
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	see it similar. noise is not all. Apart of that,i don´t like any aps-c cams,if used at 3200asa. My K-7 is till 2500asa and RAW in the same range as well as the comparable bodys. Most important,NO chrominance nois,only colorless luminance noise. But,4 eyes,4 opinions noise regards,andy

06-15-2010, 02:46 PM	#51
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	IMHO Kx sensor would be a huge mistake. Sony has a couple of new sensors coming out that should be pretty impressive. Of course those sensors will not be cheap, and Pentax may decide to go with an older sensor to save money and sell at a lower price. The new Samsung senor looks promising, and Pentax may be better off buying from Samsung.

06-15-2010, 02:51 PM	#52
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Why?Nobody knows about the new Samsung Sensor.

06-15-2010, 02:53 PM	#53
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	most of my shots are done from ISO 100/200 - 400, sometimes if the demand calls for it, I shoot at ISO 800, and very rarely use ISO 1600, much more so at ISO 3200 which is the limit for acceptable images. if High ISO from 1600 or 3200 to 6,400 is as good as the images shot at ISO 200, then it's a great sensor. if it's merely having a slightly much better HIGH ISO, then I'd be better off doing some PP NR work. although I would still prefer and need a fullframe.

06-15-2010, 03:00 PM	#54
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by zackspeed Why?Nobody knows about the new Samsung Sensor. The S5K1N2? where the specs shown to be a hoax? Image Sensors World: Samsung Mysterious DSLR Sensor with Pseudo-Multi Sample Readout

06-15-2010, 03:05 PM	#55
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Nobody knows....spec or not. We will see what the Photokina will bring. Hope the best for us.

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06-15-2010, 03:08 PM	#56
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by zackspeed Nobody knows....spec or not. We will see what the Photokina will bring. Hope the best for us. All I said was it "look interesting". I did not say Pentax was going to use it.

06-15-2010, 03:21 PM	#57
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by zackspeed But,4 eyes,4 opinions Is the split brain syndrome that common?

06-15-2010, 03:42 PM	#58
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	like 10 test=11 results

06-15-2010, 04:31 PM	#60
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by FullertonImages Everyone keeps saying this. But the only thing the K-x sensor does better than the K-7 is high ISO. K-7 sensor has better contrast, better color, better sharpness, better video quality. At ISO 100-400, the K-x sensor looks like garbage compared to K-7 sensor. the K-X sensor has better dynamic range through out the entire ISO range more DR, better photo, end of story you can manipulate contrast, colour, sharpness you cannot create dynamic range where there is none, unless you shoot HDR, but HDR can only work under specific conditions