Rumour

Geyst · 08-09-2007, 08:32 AM

Heard that pentax is replacing its 645 program with a full frame (24*36) dslr.

But I cannot find confirmation for this.

Guido

Jonas B · 08-09-2007, 08:44 AM

Oh yeah. Now I can say the same thing. But why should one? Now there are always people liking rumours. I wonder what they do with it all?

pixelpruner · 08-09-2007, 09:13 AM

and what might be the reason that you cannot find any confirmation?

and · 08-09-2007, 09:34 AM

FF pentax seems extremely unlikely to arrive this or even next year. I would be shocked if that happened. (altho I would also run out on the balcony and scream YYYEEEEEEEESSSSSS!). would be a shame if the scrap the 645d after going so far with the development, and in mf pentax still has pro users and that is good. I remember i was watching a tv show where they did a pro model shoot for a photo book and to my surprise i saw a red strap with PENTAX on it around the photographers neck. that was a 645. its good marketing to have pros with pentax around their necks if u ask me.

KFrog · 08-09-2007, 11:17 AM

If they made a full frame camera what new lenses would you use with it?

pixelpruner · 08-09-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by KFrog

If they made a full frame camera what new lenses would you use with?

Kfrog hits the nail on the head. And it doesn't seem to me like Pentax have the resources to suddenly develop a lot of new lenses very quickly, even with the help of those like Tokina.

and · 08-09-2007, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by KFrog

If they made a full frame camera what new lenses would you use with?

exactly, thats why they wont.

Asad_Masede · 08-09-2007, 12:17 PM

When I put the Pentax digital Roadmap in one hand and then put rumors (or wishful thinking, or wet dreams for some) like these in the other, it simply does NOT make sense.

Ahem, let's see. Future lens choices for the Pentax *PRO* DSLR: FA35, FA50, the 3 FA Limiteds and a costs-as-much-as-a-car-and-built-to-order FA*300/2.8. Nothing wrong with the quality of these lenses, just that they're far too few to be called a system, let alone one that caters to professionals.

I don't care about talk that the DA lenses are really FF lenses in another dimension.

-Asad

anomaly · 08-09-2007, 12:22 PM

It wouldn't make any sense to me unless they were going to put the FA lenses back in production.

The medium format digital camera made sense though.

BrendanPK · 08-09-2007, 09:25 PM

No new FF lenses, and dwindling curent stock of existing. Not going to happen.
Only chance is a 1.3X crop factor. The DA*'s are rumored to cover enough to be that, but SR would be reduced or totaly elimanated due to image circle size.

benjikan · 08-14-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by anomaly

It wouldn't make any sense to me unless they were going to put the FA lenses back in production.

The medium format digital camera made sense though.

I would love to see the 645D hit the market before the years end. That would be a major coup...

torge · 08-14-2007, 01:46 PM

and then I would want a 25-45mm WW-zoom as the 33-55mm is nowhere to be found and not wide enough anyways because of the crop.
Would also make a good combo with the existing 45-85 and 80-160mm lenses.
Perfect system!
So "Bentax", what is going on?
Torge

benjikan · 08-14-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by torge

and then I would want a 25-45mm WW-zoom as the 33-55mm is nowhere to be found and not wide enough anyways because of the crop.
Would also make a good combo with the existing 45-85 and 80-160mm lenses.
Perfect system!
So "Bentax", what is going on?
Torge

What or Who is a "Bentax"?..What is it? A new camera I invented?

We could do a parody of the new "Bentax" camera. :-)

FotoPete · 08-14-2007, 02:43 PM

there won't be a FF from Pentax. All its recent developments point to APS. It will be a very bad investment to go FF because Pentax just doesn't have the resources. The 645D was much closer to completion before getting nerfed. It would be much more logical to use the defibrillator on the medium format division, slap a price tag on the 645D and start shipping than to start FF from scratch.

- Pentax doesn't have access to FF sensor.
- Pentax is in the middle to snuffing out production to their last FF lenses. (i.e. the loss of the 35/2 AL)
- To fully realize a FF sensor camera, you'd need to either redesign your lenses from the ground up like Olympus...or stick with the same flange distance and apply large vignetting reduction like Canon does in their FF DSLRs.

wll · 08-14-2007, 03:04 PM

Not a chance, where on the roadmap do you see new FF lenses ..... not now ...... maybe in 3 or four years, but even then I doubt it as tech will have changed so much, the APS-C will be as good as the best FF now ..... Moot Point.

wll

08-09-2007, 08:32 AM	#1
Geyst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maaseik, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 158	Rumour Heard that pentax is replacing its 645 program with a full frame (24*36) dslr. But I cannot find confirmation for this. Guido

08-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#5
KFrog Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Katy, Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 294	If they made a full frame camera what new lenses would you use with it? Last edited by KFrog; 08-09-2007 at 02:14 PM.

08-14-2007, 01:00 PM	#11
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	645d Originally posted by anomaly It wouldn't make any sense to me unless they were going to put the FA lenses back in production. The medium format digital camera made sense though. I would love to see the 645D hit the market before the years end. That would be a major coup...

08-14-2007, 01:46 PM	#12
torge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hamburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 199	so, will we? and then I would want a 25-45mm WW-zoom as the 33-55mm is nowhere to be found and not wide enough anyways because of the crop. Would also make a good combo with the existing 45-85 and 80-160mm lenses. Perfect system! So "Bentax", what is going on? Torge

08-14-2007, 02:43 PM	#13
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	"Bentax"? Originally posted by torge and then I would want a 25-45mm WW-zoom as the 33-55mm is nowhere to be found and not wide enough anyways because of the crop. Would also make a good combo with the existing 45-85 and 80-160mm lenses. Perfect system! So "Bentax", what is going on? Torge What or Who is a "Bentax"?..What is it? A new camera I invented? We could do a parody of the new "Bentax" camera. :-)

08-09-2007, 08:44 AM	#2
Jonas B Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 810	Oh yeah. Now I can say the same thing. But why should one? Now there are always people liking rumours. I wonder what they do with it all?

08-09-2007, 09:13 AM	#3
pixelpruner Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leeds, NE UK Posts: 220	and what might be the reason that you cannot find any confirmation?

08-09-2007, 09:34 AM	#4
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	FF pentax seems extremely unlikely to arrive this or even next year. I would be shocked if that happened. (altho I would also run out on the balcony and scream YYYEEEEEEEESSSSSS!). would be a shame if the scrap the 645d after going so far with the development, and in mf pentax still has pro users and that is good. I remember i was watching a tv show where they did a pro model shoot for a photo book and to my surprise i saw a red strap with PENTAX on it around the photographers neck. that was a 645. its good marketing to have pros with pentax around their necks if u ask me.

08-09-2007, 11:43 AM	#6
pixelpruner Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leeds, NE UK Posts: 220	Originally posted by KFrog If they made a full frame camera what new lenses would you use with? Kfrog hits the nail on the head. And it doesn't seem to me like Pentax have the resources to suddenly develop a lot of new lenses very quickly, even with the help of those like Tokina.

08-09-2007, 11:44 AM	#7
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by KFrog If they made a full frame camera what new lenses would you use with? exactly, thats why they wont.

08-09-2007, 12:17 PM	#8
Asad_Masede Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 371	When I put the Pentax digital Roadmap in one hand and then put rumors (or wishful thinking, or wet dreams for some) like these in the other, it simply does NOT make sense. Ahem, let's see. Future lens choices for the Pentax PRO DSLR: FA35, FA50, the 3 FA Limiteds and a costs-as-much-as-a-car-and-built-to-order FA*300/2.8. Nothing wrong with the quality of these lenses, just that they're far too few to be called a system, let alone one that caters to professionals. I don't care about talk that the DA lenses are really FF lenses in another dimension. -Asad

08-09-2007, 12:22 PM	#9
anomaly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Barbados Photos: Gallery Posts: 264	It wouldn't make any sense to me unless they were going to put the FA lenses back in production. The medium format digital camera made sense though.

08-09-2007, 09:25 PM	#10
BrendanPK Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 735	No new FF lenses, and dwindling curent stock of existing. Not going to happen. Only chance is a 1.3X crop factor. The DA*'s are rumored to cover enough to be that, but SR would be reduced or totaly elimanated due to image circle size.

08-14-2007, 02:43 PM	#14
FotoPete Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,774	there won't be a FF from Pentax. All its recent developments point to APS. It will be a very bad investment to go FF because Pentax just doesn't have the resources. The 645D was much closer to completion before getting nerfed. It would be much more logical to use the defibrillator on the medium format division, slap a price tag on the 645D and start shipping than to start FF from scratch. - Pentax doesn't have access to FF sensor. - Pentax is in the middle to snuffing out production to their last FF lenses. (i.e. the loss of the 35/2 AL) - To fully realize a FF sensor camera, you'd need to either redesign your lenses from the ground up like Olympus...or stick with the same flange distance and apply large vignetting reduction like Canon does in their FF DSLRs.

08-14-2007, 03:04 PM	#15
wll Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mission Hills, CA Posts: 773	Stop the FF Thing Not a chance, where on the roadmap do you see new FF lenses ..... not now ...... maybe in 3 or four years, but even then I doubt it as tech will have changed so much, the APS-C will be as good as the best FF now ..... Moot Point. wll

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