Originally posted by Rondec The problem for Pentax is that none of their lenses are worth anything on an EVIL micro four thirds camera. Sure, they can fit fine with an adapter, but the small primes wouldn't auto focus, due to the lack of an in body motor. I don't see them releasing a whole new system, with new lenses.
Funny as well to compare the GF1 to a 1Ds. It depends entirely on what you are shooting. A 1Ds is not a carry around camera for family snap shots, but it will kill the GF1 in any respect (other than size). The better comparison would be a kx with a kit. Both small cameras, but the kx with an optical viewfinder, faster auto focus, better high iso, and 200 dollars cheaper. I know which I would choose at this point.
Most people who get EVIL cameras are just interested in small. If that is your main criteria, then go for it. On the other hand, at this point, anyone who does significant research will likely end up with a dSLR.
Sigh.
Can we get past this whole "size is an invalid criteria" argument? No, anyone who does significant research will not necessarily end up with a dSLR. There that old saying that 'quantity is a quality unto itself'. Well size is a photographic quality unto itself. Its the difference between a tool defining the art or just being a tool. The fact that a 1Ds isn't a carry around camera functionally means it's a crappy camera for 90% of the average shooter's existence. It's the reason most of us don't use a view camera or medium format on a day to day basis. Pretty much the reason for 35mm was adequate quality in a small form factor.
Is an OVF great? Yep. But it's not magic; has no intrinsically unique quality. Its a means to an end; eye level focusing and camera info. And a) depending on your process those things don't need to be done at eye level, and b) depending on your process, they're optional.
I'm in the "the smallest thing that will do the job" camp when it comes to cameras. And I own a couple of the small, relatively inexpensive rangefinders that everyone made in the 60s and 70s. At the risk of making myself sound like an old coot, there weren't a lot of serious photographers at that time that didn't own one. What's not to love about a small, silent camera with fast glass? Places where you couldn't use an SLR (museums, clubs, concerts) generally wouldn't mind your small camera. Those cameras weren't replacements for your SLR (except in a pinch) they were adjuncts, they were a chipping wedge instead a driver, job appropriate tools. If you want to work fast, close, unobtrusively and silent, very few things do that job as well as a small rangefinder.
People don't seem to understand that the same niche still exists. Mike Johnston, quite a serious photographer,
wrote about the desire for such a camera, back in 2005 (and ended up, in 2009, with a GF1). Not even the companies making them seem to understand at this point what the true appeal is. Panasonic (and Olympus, and Samsung and Sony) effectively cripple their camera. It can't really be used as easily as it should be for what it's best at. Now, I understand why they did it; everyone loves zooms (hell I love 'em like a fat kid loves cake); this is one of the chief complaints against rangefinders. But since size is almost entirely the point, some massive zoom on the front of a tiny camera completely destroys the reason for it to be a tiny camera. The designers took the easy way out of designing a viewing system that would accommodate any lens someone would be dumb enough to slap on the body. And a tack-on EVF is a step in the wrong direction (makes the camera bigger). Emulating the SLR layout is a step in the wrong direction (makes the camera bigger). Exclusively arms length focusing is a step in the wrong direction (makes the camera obtrusive). The fact that no one is getting it quite right (yet) is the only reason I bought a K-x instead an EVIL. I still almost pulled the trigger on the GF1 and a hotshoe OVF.
But at some point Panasonic (and Olympus, and Samsung and Sony) will figure this out, and companies insisting that they don't need one of these better have a solid pro level SLR body, because the the stuff under that is going away.
Something like the GF1 with the 20mm and a small, simple
built-in VF (just enough to frame) and focusing scale on the lens? That would have cost Pentax a sale. Even giving up some of the high ISO quality, I would be all over that. It's just a much more flexible platform for impromptu "life" shooting and having with you all the time, as opposed to formal photography (with a capital "P" and a little bit of pretension). The K-x is a very small SLR. But it's still a brick. And it sounds like a shotgun going off in a quiet room.
No one's buying an EVIL as a P&Ss except people that were buying low end DSLRs as P&Ss; if you really just want a point and shoot, that's what cellphones are for. A good chunk of the EVILs sold are being cannibalized from low end and second body DSLR sales. And it's just going to get worse.