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07-12-2010, 04:04 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by dankoBanana Quote
Personally, I'd like to see a 55-300 WR, think that would be a hit, but I am unsure would that be event possible considering how much the lens goes out when at 300
Seconded, I would buy a 55-300 WR as soon as available.

QuoteOriginally posted by i83N Quote
Would be nice a remake of SMC Pentax-FA* 600mm F4 ED [IF] or other tele lens that bigger than 300mm
If the hummingbird shots Marc Langille posted at dpreview recently is anything to go after, I would prefer a reintroduction of FA* 250-600/5.6. Not that I could afford either lens any time soon.
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07-12-2010, 04:06 AM   #32
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
Except the prices. Half the people on this forum want cheaper lenses. The other half want the most expensive AF glass one cold possibly design. Pentax can't win.

Then everyone wants super-fast glass, which most prods don't use. Which cost a fortune. Which inevitably have softness below f/2.8. And for which there is no end of grief. That's likely why most glass is being designed around the f/2.8 sweet spot so that right from wide open, it's sharp, rather than criticized.
Well, I think the answer is that Pentax needs to continue making high quality, expensive glass, but have a prime or two that are available for cheap. Everyone talks about how cheap the Canon 50mm f1.8 is, but the reality is that their 50mm f1.4 is priced the same as Pentax's. Make a 50mm 1.7 with a plastic mount, make it flimsy and price at 150. But continue to make high quality, expensive lenses for those who want more.
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personally i would like to see

DA* 10-20 f4
DA* 17-70 f2.8
DFA* 24-70 f2.8 (keeping the FF dream alive)
DFA* 70-200 f2.8
DFA 200 f2.8 WR MACRO - (SDM for future proofing??)
DFA 200-400 f4-5.6 SDM
DFA* 600 f4

1.4, 1.7, 2.0x TC's compatible with SDM lenses

that completes a nice range of fast quality lenses

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07-12-2010, 05:37 AM   #34
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QuoteOriginally posted by creampuff Quote
Methinks a new DFA 50mm f/2.8 Macro WR, a new 135mm AF and possibly a new 28mm AF.
I agree with the 50 mm if it is a Limited lens, this is somewhat missing in this wonderful line-up.
Even a F 2 and non macro would made me happy, with a little effort Pentax can equal the Summicron…

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One is still missing from the Pentax lineup

I love the Nikon 18-105mm lens and hope Pentax puts one out with similar range. It would be a great travel, portrait etc. lens. That is the lens range I would like to see!
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QuoteOriginally posted by whbroker Quote
I love the Nikon 18-105mm lens and hope Pentax puts one out with similar range. It would be a great travel, portrait etc. lens. That is the lens range I would like to see!
no, no,no mate.... go away, we are praying for serious stuff here, like 24-70f2.8 or 135f2....
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Do you guys actually want to pay for these new dream lenses? A new D-FA* 135/1.8 will cost in excess of $2000. A D-FA* 200/2.8 Macro would be record breaking but cost about $3500-$4000. The D-FA* 200/4 Macro will probably cost around $2500.
The sales of 135mm lenses stopped long time ago with the advent of the popular telephoto zoom; they are the least popular focal lenght available as long as we talking about affordable lenses. With the 100/2.8 Macro available I doubt we will se another Pentax 135mm lens ever unless it is a Macro lens (not very likely).
Pentax did design an FA* 150/2 that was never put to the market (and an FA 18/2.8). Maybe this could be launched finally in D-FA* clothes?
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QuoteOriginally posted by zackspeed Quote
thats true....best will be a new converter......hope....hope....
Yes, let's hope for a SDM-compatible converter It'd match the fast DA* lenses perfectly and provide extra zoom

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Do you guys actually want to pay for these new dream lenses? A new D-FA* 135/1.8 will cost in excess of $2000. A D-FA* 200/2.8 Macro would be record breaking but cost about $3500-$4000. The D-FA* 200/4 Macro will probably cost around $2500.
The sales of 135mm lenses stopped long time ago with the advent of the popular telephoto zoom; they are the least popular focal lenght available as long as we talking about affordable lenses. With the 100/2.8 Macro available I doubt we will se another Pentax 135mm lens ever unless it is a Macro lens (not very likely).
Pentax did design an FA* 150/2 that was never put to the market (and an FA 18/2.8). Maybe this could be launched finally in D-FA* clothes?
+1 to the economic astuteness.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Do you guys actually want to pay for these new dream lenses? A new D-FA* 135/1.8 will cost in excess of $2000. A D-FA* 200/2.8 Macro would be record breaking but cost about $3500-$4000. The D-FA* 200/4 Macro will probably cost around $2500.
The sales of 135mm lenses stopped long time ago with the advent of the popular telephoto zoom; they are the least popular focal lenght available as long as we talking about affordable lenses. With the 100/2.8 Macro available I doubt we will se another Pentax 135mm lens ever unless it is a Macro lens (not very likely).
Pentax did design an FA* 150/2 that was never put to the market (and an FA 18/2.8). Maybe this could be launched finally in D-FA* clothes?
Why would a Pentax 135mm f/1.8 cost $500 more than a Zeiss 135mm f/1.8? If the market for the 135mm was not viable then Sony/Zeiss would not have bothered to introduce a new 135mm a couple of years ago and they brought back the old Minolta 135mm STF and put it back into production.

The Canon 135L sells for less than $1,000 dollars.
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DAL 35 mm f2.4 or below for $99.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
The 135mm Sony is very sharp at f/1.8 and the Canon 135L is very good at F/2. Neither of those lenses are exceptionally expensive. They are both moderately priced at @$1,000-$1,200. They are lengths that a lot of working pros use and can justify the cost. On and APS-C you have a fast 200mm prime which is a very popular focal length.

I would like to see Pentax roll out an 85mm f/1.4 (update the old lens) and a D-FA* 135mm f/1.8. It appears Sigma is ahead of Pentax with the new 85mm f/1.4 which if it preforms as expected will be a very good lens, and with a better HSM motor.
Personally I don't consider $1200 "moderate priced". And, I doubt that many other people do either. I use the Pentax "K" 135 F2.5. It is a very sharp lens. And fast enough for most of my needs.

NaCl($1200 is so far out of my price range I'd not even look at it)H2O
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
Why would a Pentax 135mm f/1.8 cost $500 more than a Zeiss 135mm f/1.8? If the market for the 135mm was not viable then Sony/Zeiss would not have bothered to introduce a new 135mm a couple of years ago and they brought back the old Minolta 135mm STF and put it back into production.

The Canon 135L sells for less than $1,000 dollars.
A D FA* 135/1.8 is going to be a prime lens costing more then the 60-250 and weigh 2 lbs.

Obviously there are trade-offs between utility and cost within the market size context.

Maybe there's a market for a cheaper, plastic, slower version, as Canon does? Pentax has to choose its models very carefully so as not to tie-up production with a low-selling model. Any non-zoom approaching a $1,000 price tag will draw very cautious scrutiny, especially if the Pentax market focus is on inexpensive bodies like the K-x. Where's the market continuity?
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QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
Personally I don't consider $1200 "moderate priced". And, I doubt that many other people do either. I use the Pentax "K" 135 F2.5. It is a very sharp lens. And fast enough for most of my needs.

NaCl($1200 is so far out of my price range I'd not even look at it)H2O
The 85L is a $2,000 lens. The Olympus 14-35 and 35-100 both run @$2,000.00. We wont even talk about Leica glass. In the world of quality glass $1,000-$1,200 is moderate. There is a reason the Pentax FA 85mm, FA 28-70, & 80-200 sell for over $1,000 USED.

A lot of people here want Pentax to produce a "pro-grade" body, but until they have some "pro-grade" lenses to fill-out the line-up it won't matter. The glass will always be more important than the body and a much better investment.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
A D FA* 135/1.8 is going to be a prime lens costing more then the 60-250 and weigh 2 lbs.

Obviously there are trade-offs between utility and cost within the market size context.

Maybe there's a market for a cheaper, plastic, slower version, as Canon does? Pentax has to choose its models very carefully so as not to tie-up production with a low-selling model. Any non-zoom approaching a $1,000 price tag will draw very cautious scrutiny, especially if the Pentax market focus is on inexpensive bodies like the K-x. Where's the market continuity?
I have the 135mm f/2 Canon lens. It is an "L" series lens and there is nothing plastic about it. There are already several Limited primes that are at the $1,000 price point.

If Pentax is going to grow they need to fill-out the lens line-up. They have a lot of cheap plastic lenses already.
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