I have a good feeling about Pentax's next camera

thibs · 07-29-2010, 09:43 AM

Sony seems obvious (but may be wrong still).

Winder · 07-29-2010, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Sony seems obvious (but may be wrong still).

I agree, but the last 3 cameras K-x, K-7 & 645D all have sensors made by different companies. We know it will not be Kodak, but Samsung and Sony are strong possibilities. Panasonic and Fuji both need buyers.

zackspeed · 07-29-2010, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by youky63

Here:

Forget it,no way

zackspeed · 07-29-2010, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Winder

I agree, but the last 3 cameras K-x, K-7 & 645D all have sensors made by different companies. We know it will not be Kodak, but Samsung and Sony are strong possibilities. Panasonic and Fuji both need buyers.

Samsung is out

There comes no K-7 super....what a name

WMBP · 07-29-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

There comes no(w) K-7 super....what a name

This is from the company that brings you "*" lenses and brought you a camera line named "*ist".

Pentax is really good at something. It's just not naming.

Or, come to think of it, marketing.

Will

zackspeed · 07-29-2010, 02:52 PM

but though is no K-7 super in the line

RonHendriks1966 · 07-29-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

but though is no K-7 super in the line

Then what is in the pipeline? A Canon-sensor (EOS-1D Mark IV) would be great to get.

zackspeed · 07-29-2010, 03:04 PM

Same nonsense like the K-7 super......

No square sensor,no canon sensor,no samsung phantasy sensor...

Winder · 07-29-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Same nonsense like the K-7 super......

No square sensor,no canon sensor,no samsung phantasy sensor...

That pretty much just leaves the new Sony 16MP APS-C, or the 14.2 used in the NEX series and the soon to be announced A560.

Votesh · 07-29-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by JohnBee

But more importantly... what I think is most valuable here is the potential that Pentax has to delivery something so amazing, that its going to make all of us FF seekers wish we had not wasted our time trying to find ways to use our favorite glass on other mounts

Unfortunately, any sensor smaller than FF will not allow the use of lenses to their full potential, so unless all you want FF for is the high ISO, and other similar advantages, you will still be disappointed. I primarily want FF for its FOV advantage, and the K-7 is good enough that I won't be upgrading until Pentax releases a FF DSLR.

24X36NOW · 07-29-2010, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Votesh

Unfortunately, any sensor smaller than FF will not allow the use of lenses to their full potential, so unless all you want FF for is the high ISO, and other similar advantages, you will still be disappointed. I primarily want FF for its FOV advantage, and the K-7 is good enough that I won't be upgrading until Pentax releases a FF DSLR.

Agree 100%. I don't have a good feeling about Pentax's next camera, because it's likely to be more "Less-Than-Half-Frame" time wasting. A FF is worth more than twice the price of APS-C, similarly equipped, since two "upgrades" of APS-C STILL won't get you to FF performance, and you'll NEVER get as good a viewfinder OR be able to use the full AOV of your 35mm format lenses with APS-C. It's time for Pentax to make something better, and that means FF, period. I bought APS-C cameras to support the brand (an *istD and a K10D) and to have a digital to play with while I waited for what I actually wanted - a PK FF dSLR. I won't be buying any more APS-C cameras, regardless of how they perform or what features they have. Any more Less-Than-Half-Frame stuff at this point is a waste of money as far as I'm concerned.

Votesh · 07-29-2010, 07:26 PM

Agreed. I have all of the lenses I need(all of them FF compatible), and the only APS-C DSLR I need, and will need. I have most of the accessories I need. So from now until Pentax releases a FF body, my photo budget will almost exclusively go towards buying film and getting it processed. I've got to get my 24x36 fix somehow

PrimeObjectif · 07-29-2010, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Votesh

Unfortunately, any sensor smaller than FF will not allow the use of lenses to their full potential...

Isn't that what APS-C does by using the "sweet spot" of an FF lens?

bogiesbad · 07-29-2010, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Same nonsense like the K-7 super......

No square sensor,no canon sensor,no samsung phantasy sensor...

Do you speak "Pig Latin"? You could give us the details and no one from Pentax ouldway onay.

DogLover · 07-29-2010, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by bogiesbad

Do you speak "Pig Latin"? You could give us the details and no one from Pentax ouldway onay.

Now that's good stuff!

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07-29-2010, 09:43 AM	#31
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Sony seems obvious (but may be wrong still).

07-29-2010, 09:54 AM	#32
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by thibs Sony seems obvious (but may be wrong still). I agree, but the last 3 cameras K-x, K-7 & 645D all have sensors made by different companies. We know it will not be Kodak, but Samsung and Sony are strong possibilities. Panasonic and Fuji both need buyers.

07-29-2010, 02:30 PM	#33
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Originally posted by youky63 Here: Forget it,no way

07-29-2010, 02:31 PM	#34
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Originally posted by Winder I agree, but the last 3 cameras K-x, K-7 & 645D all have sensors made by different companies. We know it will not be Kodak, but Samsung and Sony are strong possibilities. Panasonic and Fuji both need buyers. Samsung is out There comes no K-7 super....what a name

07-29-2010, 02:48 PM	#35
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	Originally posted by zackspeed There comes no(w) K-7 super....what a name This is from the company that brings you "" lenses and brought you a camera line named "ist". Pentax is really good at something. It's just not naming. Or, come to think of it, marketing. Will

07-29-2010, 02:52 PM	#36
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	but though is no K-7 super in the line

07-29-2010, 03:01 PM	#37
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by zackspeed but though is no K-7 super in the line Then what is in the pipeline? A Canon-sensor (EOS-1D Mark IV) would be great to get.

07-29-2010, 03:04 PM	#38
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Same nonsense like the K-7 super...... No square sensor,no canon sensor,no samsung phantasy sensor...

07-29-2010, 04:00 PM	#39
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by zackspeed Same nonsense like the K-7 super...... No square sensor,no canon sensor,no samsung phantasy sensor... That pretty much just leaves the new Sony 16MP APS-C, or the 14.2 used in the NEX series and the soon to be announced A560.

07-29-2010, 04:06 PM	#40
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	Originally posted by JohnBee But more importantly... what I think is most valuable here is the potential that Pentax has to delivery something so amazing, that its going to make all of us FF seekers wish we had not wasted our time trying to find ways to use our favorite glass on other mounts Unfortunately, any sensor smaller than FF will not allow the use of lenses to their full potential, so unless all you want FF for is the high ISO, and other similar advantages, you will still be disappointed. I primarily want FF for its FOV advantage, and the K-7 is good enough that I won't be upgrading until Pentax releases a FF DSLR.

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07-29-2010, 05:14 PM	#41
24X36NOW Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CT, USA Posts: 498	Originally posted by Votesh Unfortunately, any sensor smaller than FF will not allow the use of lenses to their full potential, so unless all you want FF for is the high ISO, and other similar advantages, you will still be disappointed. I primarily want FF for its FOV advantage, and the K-7 is good enough that I won't be upgrading until Pentax releases a FF DSLR. Agree 100%. I don't have a good feeling about Pentax's next camera, because it's likely to be more "Less-Than-Half-Frame" time wasting. A FF is worth more than twice the price of APS-C, similarly equipped, since two "upgrades" of APS-C STILL won't get you to FF performance, and you'll NEVER get as good a viewfinder OR be able to use the full AOV of your 35mm format lenses with APS-C. It's time for Pentax to make something better, and that means FF, period. I bought APS-C cameras to support the brand (an *istD and a K10D) and to have a digital to play with while I waited for what I actually wanted - a PK FF dSLR. I won't be buying any more APS-C cameras, regardless of how they perform or what features they have. Any more Less-Than-Half-Frame stuff at this point is a waste of money as far as I'm concerned.

07-29-2010, 07:26 PM	#42
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	Agreed. I have all of the lenses I need(all of them FF compatible), and the only APS-C DSLR I need, and will need. I have most of the accessories I need. So from now until Pentax releases a FF body, my photo budget will almost exclusively go towards buying film and getting it processed. I've got to get my 24x36 fix somehow

07-29-2010, 07:43 PM	#43
PrimeObjectif Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 599	Originally posted by Votesh Unfortunately, any sensor smaller than FF will not allow the use of lenses to their full potential... Isn't that what APS-C does by using the "sweet spot" of an FF lens?

07-29-2010, 08:17 PM	#44
bogiesbad Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lower AL Photos: Albums Posts: 355	Originally posted by zackspeed Same nonsense like the K-7 super...... No square sensor,no canon sensor,no samsung phantasy sensor... Do you speak "Pig Latin"? You could give us the details and no one from Pentax ouldway onay.

07-29-2010, 08:24 PM	#45
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by bogiesbad Do you speak "Pig Latin"? You could give us the details and no one from Pentax ouldway onay. Now that's good stuff!