First images of Penta K-5 appearing...

Winder · 08-07-2010, 08:21 AM

I could see the K-7 replacement using the same body as the K-7, but I doubt Pentax will release a new model line with the same body. Nobody ever does that.

Canon: 1D, 5D, 7D 50D Rebel = all have different bodies.
Nikon: D3, D700, D300, D90, Dxxx = All have different bodies.

There are rare occasions where a camera manufacturer will make a stripped down version of a body like A850 is an A900 light, or the Olympus E-600 is a stripped down E-620.

Personally I think a K-5 should be slightly bigger, allow for a bigger battery, dual image processors for a faster frame rate, and have a larger VF with greater magnification.

If they are recycling all of the K-7 physical features and just updating the sensor, AF, SR, & image processor, then that is more in line with a K-7 Super. Like what Canon did with the 1DIII -> 1DIV or the step up from a 5D to a 5DII.

victor4u · 08-07-2010, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by GregK8

I completely don't get the Pentax product numbering scheme (assuming their will be a K-5).

K10 ==> K20 ==> K7 ==> K5

K10D/K20D===>made by Pentax
K-7/K-x===>released by Hoya,New starting point

zackspeed · 08-07-2010, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by bodhi

Lets hope the new camera will have live histogram and live view in OVF. This features will give Pentax significant advantage over the other brands.

that's the patent.but only one of many...

thibs · 08-07-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Winder

I could see the K-7 replacement using the same body as the K-7, but I doubt Pentax will release a new model line with the same body. Nobody ever does that.

Canon: 1D, 5D, 7D 50D Rebel = all have different bodies.
Nikon: D3, D700, D300, D90, Dxxx = All have different bodies.

There are rare occasions where a camera manufacturer will make a stripped down version of a body like A850 is an A900 light, or the Olympus E-600 is a stripped down E-620.

Personally I think a K-5 should be slightly bigger, allow for a bigger battery, dual image processors for a faster frame rate, and have a larger VF with greater magnification.

If they are recycling all of the K-7 physical features and just updating the sensor, AF, SR, & image processor, then that is more in line with a K-7 Super. Like what Canon did with the 1DIII -> 1DIV or the step up from a 5D to a 5DII.

C'mon EOS 20D -> 30D -> 40D -> 50D is the same body with a couple minor tweaks (speaking about body I mean).

bodhi · 08-07-2010, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by zackspeed

that's the patent.but only one of many...

If thats come true together with the rumoured high ISO capabilities of the new Sony sensor and with better AF module it could be very tempting to upgrade from my K10D. And if they can bundle it with an upgraded DA* 16-50

knoxploration · 08-07-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by thibs

C'mon EOS 20D -> 30D -> 40D -> 50D is the same body with a couple minor tweaks (speaking about body I mean).

...and as he said, they're all cameras in the same model line.

What he's saying is that there wouldn't be two different model lines sharing the same basic body design, just like Canon (for example) don't use the same body design for their XXD cameras, and their Rebel cameras.

benjikan · 08-07-2010, 11:30 AM

Looks like a K7 + Grip to my eyes.

Caat · 08-07-2010, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by knoxploration

...and as he said, they're all cameras in the same model line.

What he's saying is that there wouldn't be two different model lines sharing the same basic body design, just like Canon (for example) don't use the same body design for their XXD cameras, and their Rebel cameras.

Except that by all accounts this K-5 is an update - like the K10D - K20D. The fact that the K-7 will remain on sale "for a while" is potentially stock related.

And anyway people seem to have forgotten that Pentax said that one of the models is a minor update - if this is the K-5 it seems completely reasonable that it has basically the same body as the K-7.

Of course I think the K-7s body is pretty good.

JohnBee · 08-07-2010, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Caat

Of course I think the K-7s body is pretty good.

As do I
And if the K-7 came with Kx DR and noise performances, I would have two of them here instead of K20's in my kit. Though I still think that if Pentax follow through with that(this round) that they will still be in a good position with respect to the competition. My only request would be that they added ISO25600 to the system rarher than 12800 because I honestly beleive we could squeeze that out of that sensor.

aragondina · 08-07-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T

That's HOT! Where do I buy one?????

zackspeed · 08-07-2010, 01:27 PM

In Fantasy Island

Christopher M.W.T · 08-07-2010, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

In Fantasy Island

What you talking about? I got one right here

zackspeed · 08-07-2010, 03:10 PM

ok...but i find the new k-. much nicer...i prefer that body much more

Winder · 08-07-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by knoxploration

...and as he said, they're all cameras in the same model line.

What he's saying is that there wouldn't be two different model lines sharing the same basic body design, just like Canon (for example) don't use the same body design for their XXD cameras, and their Rebel cameras.

Thank you...... I often wonder if people actually read any of the posts they respond to.

Class A · 08-08-2010, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by zackspeed

ok...but i find the new k-. much nicer...i prefer that body much more

K-. != K-5 != K-r, right?

Are the K-. and K-5 bodies different and if so, in what way?

For a street photographer the K-7 form factor might be ideal but I recently handled the Sony α850 and it was so much more comfortable to get all of my fingers on the grip. And the viewfinder...drool.

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08-07-2010, 08:21 AM	#61
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I could see the K-7 replacement using the same body as the K-7, but I doubt Pentax will release a new model line with the same body. Nobody ever does that. Canon: 1D, 5D, 7D 50D Rebel = all have different bodies. Nikon: D3, D700, D300, D90, Dxxx = All have different bodies. There are rare occasions where a camera manufacturer will make a stripped down version of a body like A850 is an A900 light, or the Olympus E-600 is a stripped down E-620. Personally I think a K-5 should be slightly bigger, allow for a bigger battery, dual image processors for a faster frame rate, and have a larger VF with greater magnification. If they are recycling all of the K-7 physical features and just updating the sensor, AF, SR, & image processor, then that is more in line with a K-7 Super. Like what Canon did with the 1DIII -> 1DIV or the step up from a 5D to a 5DII.

08-07-2010, 08:23 AM	#62
victor4u New Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: shanghai Posts: 6	Originally posted by GregK8 I completely don't get the Pentax product numbering scheme (assuming their will be a K-5). K10 ==> K20 ==> K7 ==> K5 K10D/K20D===>made by Pentax K-7/K-x===>released by Hoya,New starting point

08-07-2010, 10:15 AM	#63
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Originally posted by bodhi Lets hope the new camera will have live histogram and live view in OVF. This features will give Pentax significant advantage over the other brands. that's the patent.but only one of many...

08-07-2010, 10:17 AM	#64
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Winder I could see the K-7 replacement using the same body as the K-7, but I doubt Pentax will release a new model line with the same body. Nobody ever does that. Canon: 1D, 5D, 7D 50D Rebel = all have different bodies. Nikon: D3, D700, D300, D90, Dxxx = All have different bodies. There are rare occasions where a camera manufacturer will make a stripped down version of a body like A850 is an A900 light, or the Olympus E-600 is a stripped down E-620. Personally I think a K-5 should be slightly bigger, allow for a bigger battery, dual image processors for a faster frame rate, and have a larger VF with greater magnification. If they are recycling all of the K-7 physical features and just updating the sensor, AF, SR, & image processor, then that is more in line with a K-7 Super. Like what Canon did with the 1DIII -> 1DIV or the step up from a 5D to a 5DII. C'mon EOS 20D -> 30D -> 40D -> 50D is the same body with a couple minor tweaks (speaking about body I mean).

08-07-2010, 11:07 AM	#65
bodhi Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 61	Originally posted by zackspeed that's the patent.but only one of many... If thats come true together with the rumoured high ISO capabilities of the new Sony sensor and with better AF module it could be very tempting to upgrade from my K10D. And if they can bundle it with an upgraded DA* 16-50

08-07-2010, 11:16 AM	#66
knoxploration Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 846	Originally posted by thibs C'mon EOS 20D -> 30D -> 40D -> 50D is the same body with a couple minor tweaks (speaking about body I mean). ...and as he said, they're all cameras in the same model line. What he's saying is that there wouldn't be two different model lines sharing the same basic body design, just like Canon (for example) don't use the same body design for their XXD cameras, and their Rebel cameras.

08-07-2010, 11:30 AM	#67
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Looks like a K7 + Grip to my eyes.

08-07-2010, 11:36 AM	#68
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by knoxploration ...and as he said, they're all cameras in the same model line. What he's saying is that there wouldn't be two different model lines sharing the same basic body design, just like Canon (for example) don't use the same body design for their XXD cameras, and their Rebel cameras. Except that by all accounts this K-5 is an update - like the K10D - K20D. The fact that the K-7 will remain on sale "for a while" is potentially stock related. And anyway people seem to have forgotten that Pentax said that one of the models is a minor update - if this is the K-5 it seems completely reasonable that it has basically the same body as the K-7. Of course I think the K-7s body is pretty good.

08-07-2010, 12:07 PM	#69
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by Caat Of course I think the K-7s body is pretty good. As do I And if the K-7 came with Kx DR and noise performances, I would have two of them here instead of K20's in my kit. Though I still think that if Pentax follow through with that(this round) that they will still be in a good position with respect to the competition. My only request would be that they added ISO25600 to the system rarher than 12800 because I honestly beleive we could squeeze that out of that sensor.

08-07-2010, 12:50 PM	#70
aragondina Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 117	Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T That's HOT! Where do I buy one?????

08-07-2010, 01:27 PM	#71
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	In Fantasy Island

08-07-2010, 03:06 PM	#72
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Originally posted by zackspeed In Fantasy Island What you talking about? I got one right here

08-07-2010, 03:10 PM	#73
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	ok...but i find the new k-. much nicer...i prefer that body much more

08-07-2010, 03:33 PM	#74
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by knoxploration ...and as he said, they're all cameras in the same model line. What he's saying is that there wouldn't be two different model lines sharing the same basic body design, just like Canon (for example) don't use the same body design for their XXD cameras, and their Rebel cameras. Thank you...... I often wonder if people actually read any of the posts they respond to.

08-08-2010, 01:19 AM	#75
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by zackspeed ok...but i find the new k-. much nicer...i prefer that body much more K-. != K-5 != K-r, right? Are the K-. and K-5 bodies different and if so, in what way? For a street photographer the K-7 form factor might be ideal but I recently handled the Sony α850 and it was so much more comfortable to get all of my fingers on the grip. And the viewfinder...drool.