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08-08-2010, 02:19 PM   #31
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I think something's being lost in translation.

In technology, mature products are ones that have been proven, established, refined, improved, advanced...

An this IS Pentax's first foray into medium format DIGITAL. There is no precursor to the 645D; nothing came before it. Whatever comes after it will be more MATURE; more advanced.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pixel Pusher Quote
I think something's being lost in translation.

In technology, mature products are ones that have been proven, established, refined, improved, advanced...

An this IS Pentax's first foray into medium format DIGITAL. There is no precursor to the 645D; nothing came before it. Whatever comes after it will be more MATURE; more advanced.
True. But photography is photography. And MF is the the non-digital, purest form (save the LF aficionados).

The film MF market was large enough to support a good 1/2 dozen players at any one time. The consumer of MF is the kid you want.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pixel Pusher Quote
I think something's being lost in translation.

In technology, mature products are ones that have been proven, established, refined, improved, advanced...

An this IS Pentax's first foray into medium format DIGITAL. There is no precursor to the 645D; nothing came before it. Whatever comes after it will be more MATURE; more advanced.
Lost in translation? Maybe.
Let's try again... what on the 645D is not refined enough? What exactly is not advanced enough? What's not established enough to a camera built in numbers comparable to the entire DMF market? What's not mature enough? What are those problems, that would make an imaginary buyer to not even think of choosing Pentax over e.g. Mamiya?
Or it doesn't matter? Is a system more desirable just because it's older? We won't even look at the products themselves, because of this?

Btw, I'd choose a product done right from the start, over 1000 iterations of the same old, bad idea.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pixel Pusher Quote
I think something's being lost in translation.

In technology, mature products are ones that have been proven, established, refined, improved, advanced...

An this IS Pentax's first foray into medium format DIGITAL. There is no precursor to the 645D; nothing came before it. Whatever comes after it will be more MATURE; more advanced.
The Pentax 6745D is the most mature MF DSLR out there. It is not an old film camera with an ad-hoc digital back. If that was mature, Nikon and Canon would have sold the F5 and EOS-1 with digital backs.
The 645D is ultramature. It is the sum of all Pentax DSLR experience and is in fact a K-7 with a larger sensor.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
The Pentax 6745D is the most mature MF DSLR out there. It is not an old film camera with an ad-hoc digital back. If that was mature, Nikon and Canon would have sold the F5 and EOS-1 with digital backs.
The 645D is ultramature. It is the sum of all Pentax DSLR experience and is in fact a K-7 with a larger sensor.
If you really think it through a K-7 is a 645D with a smaller sensor. Hoya exploited the R&D for the 645D in the K-7 to amortize the cost, allowing them to price the 645D where they did.
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