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08-31-2010, 04:09 AM   #496
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
How much noise is noise? K-7, 1000ISO cropped 50%! No noise reduction; just opened in Photoshop and saved for web....

Looks pretty good to me. The question is once you print that, will that noise be so noticeable? If anything it looks a bit more organic as if you shot it on film.

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I have to say, I liked the idea of the K-r having the ability to use both AA's and Li-ions. End of discussion for the battery issues i guess.
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I would love to see a full frame pentax some day. I am quite happy with my Pentax K-X but im pretty sure at some point I will want to graduate up to a "more powerful" camera. The current K5/KR rumors do not entice me very much. I would probably end up switching to a nikon or a canon when that time comes. something along the lines of a 5D mark II
2011 you might get your wish so i'm hearing myself rumurs and such
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QuoteOriginally posted by kricha6431 Quote
2011 you might get your wish so i'm hearing myself rumurs and such
Lemme guess, is the Pentax FF going to be announced in conjunction with the Verizion iPhone?


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I will wait to buy my new pentax untill FF will be available...
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QuoteOriginally posted by lurchlarson Quote
Lemme guess, is the Pentax FF going to be announced in conjunction with the Verizion iPhone?
HA HA HA laugh all you want dim wit
oh, and by the way, i don't care for sarcastic remarks, they are not funny

but I have heard otherwise thatt FF will be announce in 2011
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I think the bigger issue with pentax are cheaper , consumer lenses, especially fast primes (faster than f:2.8 ... 2.8 can do a zoom lens too)... a 35mm/1.8 (50mm equiv.), a 24mm/f:2 (35mm equiv.) , 90mm f:2.4 .. (135mm equiv.) etc.

More,... FF would mean at least 3 FA* zoom new lenses (wide, standard,tele), ~4 new FA/FA* primes (a 50/1.7, 24/2, 85/1.8, 85/1.4 .... etc.).. bedsides 50/1.4 and 35/2 ... but with prices at least at the same level as Canikon, plus.. others....

I doubt Pentax can do all this in.. let's say.. a year after the lauch of a Pentax FF camera.

For me Pentax cameras (not lenses) has 2-3 strong points: shake reduction with any lens, small sturdy bodies (+WR on some), compatibility with older lenses .. but here we have that crippled mount :-( .. so could be better... and that's all.
The best lenses from Pentax are the kit lens (realtively to what the competition is offering) for the same price.
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Don't you think you are a little bit strong?
I agree with the FA but this:
"The best lenses from Pentax are the kit lens (realtively to what the competition is offering) for the same price."

What about all the limited DAs? Not that expensive with nice quality in APS-C.
And the 17-70 SDM?
And the 100mm macro?
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It seems to me...K-r has new Samsung sensor
09-03-2010, 05:20 AM   #505
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It seems to me...K-r has new Samsung sensor
How many Pixels?
I know you stated 12MP before.
They do have a patent for a 12MP chip with 8fps.
This would be very exciting.
How sure are your out of 5. (1 being not sure)
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It seems to me...K-r has new Samsung sensor
Doubtful, Pentax and Samsung have parted ways.
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Where is my k-5????? It has been too long.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Christopher M.W.T Quote
Doubtful, Pentax and Samsung have parted ways.
What does that mean, Christopher? Are you suggesting that Hoya would not buy ICs from Samsung even if the price and product were right?

That may be correct but I wonder how we'd know that.
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What does that mean, Christopher? Are you suggesting that Hoya would not buy ICs from Samsung even if the price and product were right?

That may be correct but I wonder how we'd know that.
The way I'm seeing it now (going off what I've read) is that Hoya/Pentax fell out with Samsung for whatever reason.

Going by the fact that they've used a Sony sensor (not Samung) for the K-x, Samsung dropping the k-mount, the K-5 using the new Sony exemor sensor it's only fair to say that Pentax at this time are exclusively dealing with Sony in the sensor department....

Then again it's just speculation until something is an official press release.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dotchoucou Quote
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"The best lenses from Pentax are the kit lens (realtively to what the competition is offering) for the same price."

What about all the limited DAs? Not that expensive with nice quality in APS-C.
And the 17-70 SDM?
And the 100mm macro?
...
I think the the price tag/performance doesn't justify to buy the 17-70 SDM over sigma's 17-70, or over Tamron SP 17-50/f:2.8 ... the 100mm macro is expensive EVEN if doesn't have SDM (like nikon&canon), and SR (like nikon&cANON) ;-)
Limiteds DA's are relatively ok... but MAYBE except 70/2.4 the rest are too expensive (for me) for their speed (f:2.8 ... 3.2 for 21mm and 4 for 15mm !!!)... true.. I like narrow DOF.. :-)
I said that about the kit lens because it is so good (NON rotating fron element !!! , good optics, etc... for the price) that it is worth replacing only by a Tamron/sigma 18-50/2.8 or maybe sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5 .. or 35/1.8 like the DX lens from NIkon ... great lens BTW for the price ;-) ... same for 50/1.8 (canikon) ... lenses that pentax lacks.
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