Brief info about K-5 and KR

dlacouture · 08-22-2010, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by MariusCTM

K7 is reasonable to buy maybe in US. In Europe new is 1150 Euro (only body!)

Well, you can find it for 720€ new in some French brick-and-mortar shops, like Image Photo Lyon Numérique.

For once, we don't get ripped off too much!

bodhi · 08-22-2010, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by MariusCTM

So, in Europe it will be 1625 Euro.
If isn't FF who's gonna buy it?

If the price is correct, it will be the highest one for the camera and that unfortunately mean the Europe one

. 1625 in Euro is too much for any crop sensor camera.

LightBug · 08-22-2010, 12:22 AM

Is K-R weather sealed? The MP count seems a bit low compared to competition. Is the info firm?

jaieger · 08-22-2010, 12:25 AM

Sorry, I'm relatively new to this forum and probably ignorant, but how do we know that this information is correct?

atiratha · 08-22-2010, 12:30 AM

The price is highest for a crop sensor DSLR so far. So it either directly competes with Canon 7D or it is a very cheap FF. Or someone went insane because at that price it needs to have some serious perks to make the current K10/20/7 users to upgrade. Well, remember Nikon, they were making their commitment to APS and APS only very vocal and along came the FF as a very big surprise.

MariusCTM · 08-22-2010, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by dlacouture

Well, you can find it for 720€ new in some French brick-and-mortar shops, like Image Photo Lyon Numérique.

For once, we don't get ripped off too much!

Strange offer!

rawr · 08-22-2010, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by jaieger

Sorry, I'm relatively new to this forum and probably ignorant, but how do we know that this information is correct?

We don't.

Any credible info needs a credible source, preferably several sources. There is none.

jct us101 · 08-22-2010, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by ogl

K-7 is very reasonable buying now... I think K-5 will be a failure of Pentax. Too expensive for extra 2 MP and new video modes...

Another brands will launch the same 16 MP cameras - Nikon, SONY. Canon will offer new 18 MP 60D...
No chances to attract old users with K200/20/10/K-x...IMO.

You think everything will be the failure of Pentax.

MariusCTM · 08-22-2010, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by jct us101

You think everything will be the failure of Pentax.

At this price (1650 euro in Europe) if it's not FF or beats 7D il WILL be a failure and if K7 will be discontinued THIS will be the failure of Pentax.

blende8 · 08-22-2010, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by ogl

PENTAX K-5:
- 16 million pixels (SONY new sensor)
- ISO 25600
- 7 frames per sec
- ¥ 139,000 (too high price - $1625

)

If that's all of the important features, I am disappointed.
Basically just a new sensor.
What about AF? I mean real AF?
Does it has a bracketing button again?
What about focus bracketing?
Stop-down coupler?
Inquiring minds want to know!

kari · 08-22-2010, 01:54 AM

I don't know, people usually think more expensive means better. Sometimes I wonder if Pentax's prices aren't too low for people to take them seriously, they think there must be a reason for that.

Not that I'm complaining, I still think my K-x is the biggest bargain of any DSLR.

Boris · 08-22-2010, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by ogl

PENTAX K-5:
- 16 million pixels (SONY new sensor)
- ISO 25600
- 7 frames per sec
- ¥ 139,000 (too high price - $1625

)
- announcement on September 20
- Released in mid-October

PENTAX KR:
- 12 million pixels
- 6 frames per sec
- 10 color of body and 12 color grip, as the combination 120 colours
- 74,800 yen ($875)
- Released in mid-October

So, K-5 has more pixels, more fps and higher ISO than K-7. Supposedly Sony's new sensor is also good w.r.t. dynamic range, etc. In turn K-R will outshoot K-7 fps-wise and if it has the same sensors as K-x, it will have better high ISO performance. Therefore what is written above makes sense to me. It also makes sense to me to pass on either of these cameras. Further, I am afraid, staying with Pentax may prove not too wise a choice at this juncture. Finally, it is then my sincerest hope that this year announcement will not be just an evolutionary one like ogl describes above.

stormcloud · 08-22-2010, 02:01 AM

high iso will be a welxome addition but like others i'm looking for autofocus impreovements and hopefully 3d focus tracking

zelovoc · 08-22-2010, 02:05 AM

well it seems that i`ll stick with my k200d for another years. i want something new in k200 body.

dandog · 08-22-2010, 02:18 AM

well thats kinda sad.but we will have to wait and see what other functions it holds(k5)
i too was kinda hoping for a ff from pentax,dont really care as much as others.

ive had my k7 for a year now,its a great camera but kinda sux in the noise area.even at iso 100.(long exposures)if the new sensor is good enough i think it would be a worthy backup camera or primary but it doesnt sound right kinda backwards!!k-7 for backup K-5 for primary?

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08-22-2010, 12:12 AM	#16
dlacouture Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Var, South of France Photos: Albums Posts: 1,074	Originally posted by MariusCTM K7 is reasonable to buy maybe in US. In Europe new is 1150 Euro (only body!) Well, you can find it for 720€ new in some French brick-and-mortar shops, like Image Photo Lyon Numérique. For once, we don't get ripped off too much!

08-22-2010, 12:12 AM	#17
bodhi Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 61	Originally posted by MariusCTM So, in Europe it will be 1625 Euro. If isn't FF who's gonna buy it? If the price is correct, it will be the highest one for the camera and that unfortunately mean the Europe one . 1625 in Euro is too much for any crop sensor camera.

08-22-2010, 12:22 AM	#18
LightBug Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OC, CA, USA Posts: 506	Is K-R weather sealed? The MP count seems a bit low compared to competition. Is the info firm?

08-22-2010, 12:25 AM	#19
jaieger Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 586	Sorry, I'm relatively new to this forum and probably ignorant, but how do we know that this information is correct?

08-22-2010, 12:30 AM	#20
atiratha Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	The price is highest for a crop sensor DSLR so far. So it either directly competes with Canon 7D or it is a very cheap FF. Or someone went insane because at that price it needs to have some serious perks to make the current K10/20/7 users to upgrade. Well, remember Nikon, they were making their commitment to APS and APS only very vocal and along came the FF as a very big surprise.

08-22-2010, 12:31 AM	#21
MariusCTM Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 74	Originally posted by dlacouture Well, you can find it for 720€ new in some French brick-and-mortar shops, like Image Photo Lyon Numérique. For once, we don't get ripped off too much! Strange offer!

08-22-2010, 01:03 AM	#22
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by jaieger Sorry, I'm relatively new to this forum and probably ignorant, but how do we know that this information is correct? We don't. Any credible info needs a credible source, preferably several sources. There is none.

08-22-2010, 01:17 AM	#23
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Originally posted by ogl K-7 is very reasonable buying now... I think K-5 will be a failure of Pentax. Too expensive for extra 2 MP and new video modes... Another brands will launch the same 16 MP cameras - Nikon, SONY. Canon will offer new 18 MP 60D... No chances to attract old users with K200/20/10/K-x...IMO. You think everything will be the failure of Pentax.

08-22-2010, 01:39 AM	#24
MariusCTM Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 74	Originally posted by jct us101 You think everything will be the failure of Pentax. At this price (1650 euro in Europe) if it's not FF or beats 7D il WILL be a failure and if K7 will be discontinued THIS will be the failure of Pentax.

08-22-2010, 01:39 AM	#25
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by ogl PENTAX K-5: - 16 million pixels (SONY new sensor) - ISO 25600 - 7 frames per sec - ¥ 139,000 (too high price - $1625 ) If that's all of the important features, I am disappointed. Basically just a new sensor. What about AF? I mean real AF? Does it has a bracketing button again? What about focus bracketing? Stop-down coupler? Inquiring minds want to know!

08-22-2010, 01:54 AM	#26
kari Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 142	I don't know, people usually think more expensive means better. Sometimes I wonder if Pentax's prices aren't too low for people to take them seriously, they think there must be a reason for that. Not that I'm complaining, I still think my K-x is the biggest bargain of any DSLR.

08-22-2010, 01:57 AM	#27
Boris Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 932	Originally posted by ogl PENTAX K-5: - 16 million pixels (SONY new sensor) - ISO 25600 - 7 frames per sec - ¥ 139,000 (too high price - $1625 ) - announcement on September 20 - Released in mid-October PENTAX KR: - 12 million pixels - 6 frames per sec - 10 color of body and 12 color grip, as the combination 120 colours - 74,800 yen ($875) - Released in mid-October So, K-5 has more pixels, more fps and higher ISO than K-7. Supposedly Sony's new sensor is also good w.r.t. dynamic range, etc. In turn K-R will outshoot K-7 fps-wise and if it has the same sensors as K-x, it will have better high ISO performance. Therefore what is written above makes sense to me. It also makes sense to me to pass on either of these cameras. Further, I am afraid, staying with Pentax may prove not too wise a choice at this juncture. Finally, it is then my sincerest hope that this year announcement will not be just an evolutionary one like ogl describes above.

08-22-2010, 02:01 AM	#28
stormcloud Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 232	high iso will be a welxome addition but like others i'm looking for autofocus impreovements and hopefully 3d focus tracking

08-22-2010, 02:05 AM	#29
zelovoc Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kosice Posts: 80	well it seems that i`ll stick with my k200d for another years. i want something new in k200 body.

08-22-2010, 02:18 AM	#30
dandog Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: kalgoorlie Posts: 187	well thats kinda sad.but we will have to wait and see what other functions it holds(k5) i too was kinda hoping for a ff from pentax,dont really care as much as others. ive had my k7 for a year now,its a great camera but kinda sux in the noise area.even at iso 100.(long exposures)if the new sensor is good enough i think it would be a worthy backup camera or primary but it doesnt sound right kinda backwards!!k-7 for backup K-5 for primary?