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08-28-2007, 01:54 AM   #1
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hope all future lens come with SDM

it is a new era, i think if pentax keeps on publish sdm lens
at least, they will not be out of business sooner than olympus

all lens, include those low end lens 55-300 and 17-70

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QuoteOriginally posted by xbadx Quote
it is a new era, i think if pentax keeps on publish sdm lens
at least, they will not be out of business sooner than olympus

all lens, include those low end lens 55-300 and 17-70
I am not entirely convinced that the coming 17-70 and 55-300 are "low end" lenses. I do of course hope that they is quite equal to the 16-45 f/4, but with lower CA, this would fill the gap nicely between the 16-45 f/4 and 16-50 f/2.8.
A DA 17-70 f/3.5-5.6 SDM? Yes, I would want one.
And a matching 55-300 f/4-5.6 ED SDM.

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I'm not sure about that. I believe the cheap lenses will not get SDM for now.

I'm still unsure what the 17-70 and 55-300 lenses will be like, but I expect the 55-300 to be relatively entry level, with the 17-70 possibly slightly better... I see these as mainly consumer oriented though, as there's a full setup of DA* glass foreseen. There are too many complaints of people not choosing Pentax because of the lens choices or going for slightly longer cheap Sigma and Tamron zooms, so I believe Pentax will address that first. There may also be a superzoom just for that.

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QuoteOriginally posted by xbadx Quote
hope all future lens come with SDM

I most certainly hope not. Especially at the current prices of the SDM lenses with built-in supersonic motors. These lenses are simply far too expensive for most, including most dedicated photographers (amateur, pro, other). At the moment, one would need $1900 for the two Pentax SDM lenses (16-50mm at $900 and 50-135mm at $1000) needed to cover even the most basic focal length range of 18-135mm. And, based on those prices, one would perhaps need an additional $1500-2500 (price not available yet) to extend that coverage to a more respectable 300mm. Lets face it, very few people are going to spend nearly $3500 to $4500 for a set of lenses, no matter how fast they focus.

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I most certainly hope not. Especially at the current prices of the SDM lenses with built-in supersonic motors. These lenses are simply far too expensive for most, including most dedicated photographers (amateur, pro, other). At the moment, one would need $1900 for the two Pentax SDM lenses (16-50mm at $900 and 50-135mm at $1000) needed to cover even the most basic focal length range of 18-135mm. And, based on those prices, one would perhaps need an additional $1500-2500 (price not available yet) to extend that coverage to a more respectable 300mm. Lets face it, very few people are going to spend nearly $3500 to $4500 for a set of lenses, no matter how fast they focus.

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Yes but both of these lenses are constant f2.8 weather sealed and pro quality lenses. i think a consumer lens not built to the * standards would be able to be cheaper.
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QuoteOriginally posted by stewart_photo Quote
I most certainly hope not. Especially at the current prices of the SDM lenses with built-in supersonic motors. These lenses are simply far too expensive for most, including most dedicated photographers (amateur, pro, other). At the moment, one would need $1900 for the two Pentax SDM lenses (16-50mm at $900 and 50-135mm at $1000) needed to cover even the most basic focal length range of 18-135mm. And, based on those prices, one would perhaps need an additional $1500-2500 (price not available yet) to extend that coverage to a more respectable 300mm. Lets face it, very few people are going to spend nearly $3500 to $4500 for a set of lenses, no matter how fast they focus
DA★ lenses are expensive not because they have SDM. They are expensive because they have constant f/2.8.

Look at Canon & Nikon. Even their cheapest lenses have ultrasonic motors so SDM can't be expensive itself. Would you really mind some 30-50 premium for an SDM?
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I would probably buy the 17-70 if it is weather sealed, though I understand many may not want this due to the price increase..
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I believe your wish would come true. Most, if not all lenses, in the future would probably have SDM, except the small limited lenses or pancake lenses.

Eventually, Pentax would have D40 like model with no internal motors for their most basic models.

Olympus actually is doing quite well. So they won't be going away any time soon.


QuoteOriginally posted by xbadx Quote
it is a new era, i think if pentax keeps on publish sdm lens
at least, they will not be out of business sooner than olympus

all lens, include those low end lens 55-300 and 17-70


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I would probably buy the 17-70 if it is weather sealed, though I understand many may not want this due to the price increase..
I to be honest would rather all future pentax lenses to have this instead of SDM if it was one or the other.
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I to be honest would rather all future pentax lenses to have this instead of SDM if it was one or the other.
I'd rather they be FF, but then we have had that argument/discussion!
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Yes but both of these lenses are constant f2.8 weather sealed and pro quality lenses. i think a consumer lens not built to the * standards would be able to be cheaper.

Perhaps. But, at the moment, those are the only lenses and only prices to be seen. Therefore, at the moment, that is the only reliable conclusion. When the facts change, the conclusions will change as well.

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Perhaps. But, at the moment, those are the only lenses and only prices to be seen. Therefore, at the moment, that is the only reliable conclusion. When the facts change, the conclusions will change as well.

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But another fact is that the low end camera body now has SDM support (K100D super). I guess from this fact that even consumer lenses will have SDM. I think that Pentax is going after Canon and Nikon high margins. By offering SR and SDM in the entire lineup... they can earn market share.
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All lenses except pancakes (at least).
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