Any lens rumors?

lpfonseca · 09-02-2010, 02:03 PM

I would love a 200mm f/4 macro and a 80-400 f/4-5.6.

Am I asking to much?

dankoBanana · 09-02-2010, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by lpfonseca

I would love a 200mm f/4 macro and a 80-400 f/4-5.6.

Am I asking to much?

nope

LINCOLN · 09-02-2010, 08:44 PM

Well , I will be very to see if there is a DAL prime lens announced.
DAL 50/1.7,28/1.8, 16/2.8..
What ever.

Supernaut · 09-03-2010, 12:30 AM

Imo, the lack of lens releases recently implies that something big is coming. Something that would steal sales of the present lens line up if presented too early or introduced to market step by step.
A few options comes to my mind:

1 D-FA lenses (would reduce both crop lens and camera sales if leaked too early)
2 WR update to many of the non * lenses
3 Lenses made for contrast AF

thibs · 09-03-2010, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by Supernaut

Imo, the lack of lens releases recently implies that something big is coming. Something that would steal sales of the present lens line up if presented too early or introduced to market step by step.
A few options comes to my mind:

1 D-FA lenses (would reduce both crop lens and camera sales if leaked too early)
2 WR update to many of the non * lenses
3 Lenses made for contrast AF

Sums it up pretty well. My thinking as well.

gazonk · 09-03-2010, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Sums it up pretty well. My thinking as well.

Unless Pentax surprises us with completely new lenses for a small-mount mirrorless, here's what I think may come:

- Release of the already shown 645 ultra wide
- A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this.
- The mythical super tele (from the road map)
- A Pentax-designed super zoom (or "almost super", e.g. 18-105)

In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a relaunch of "the three amigos" in WR version with quick shift.

ewalk · 09-03-2010, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

- Release of the already shown 645 ultra wide
- A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this.
- The mythical super tele (from the road map)
- A Pentax-designed super zoom (or "almost super", e.g. 18-105)

You're very close, very close indeed.

**rparmar** · 09-03-2010, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

- A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this.

We much more need a fast prime in the 24-28mm range. And the 135mm "range".

mtr_fingolfin · 09-03-2010, 06:23 AM

I would like a light walk around lens, such as sigma 24-70 f2.8, but much lighter. I would like it to be a sharp IQ lens as well, indeed i am definitely asking too much.

Zav · 09-03-2010, 07:06 AM

A DA(-L?) 35mm f2,4 may be coming...

**Aristophanes** · 09-03-2010, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Unless Pentax surprises us with completely new lenses for a small-mount mirrorless, here's what I think may come:

- Release of the already shown 645 ultra wide
- A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this.
- The mythical super tele (from the road map)
- A Pentax-designed super zoom (or "almost super", e.g. 18-105)

In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a relaunch of "the three amigos" in WR version with quick shift.

Originally posted by ewalk

You're very close, very close indeed.

You are very close. We will see DAL's, not WR's, no data on the super-tele, but a new tele-"kit" lens.

gazonk · 09-03-2010, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by rparmar

We much more need a fast prime in the 24-28mm range. And the 135mm "range".

I know we (i.e. the experienced users) need that, but Pentax urgently needs a fast and cheap normal lens since such a lens has become such a common recommendation for kit lens users who want to take their photography one step further.

Lincolnatus · 09-03-2010, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

You are very close. We will see DAL's, not WR's, no data on the super-tele, but a new tele-"kit" lens.

This is disappointing if true. I would rather see Pentax dedicate their lens manufacturing to lines which advance their strengths rather than their weaknesses. Quickshift is an acceptable bridge from the screwdrive system to in-lens motors. DA-L lenses are a step backwards. WR/AW lenses/bodies enable Pentax to differentiate themselves from their market competitors. I understand that Pentax has to compromise to hit certain price points in the market, but I'd rather that they were $20 more expensive if it meant that they could have a consistent lens line-up of: consumer = quickshift + non-sealed; pro = in-lens motor + sealed. They need to commit to their strengths. I also understand that they're stuck in a hard place with backwards compatibility being one of their strengths (e.g. the "limited" lenses), but they need to commit to a progressive roadmap. DA-L never should have happened IMO.

**rparmar** · 09-03-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

I know we (i.e. the experienced users) need that, but Pentax urgently needs a fast and cheap normal lens since such a lens has become such a common recommendation for kit lens users who want to take their photography one step further.

24mm corresponds to the classic street shooters film 35mm.

28mm corresponds to the true normal that Pentax had properly as 43mm.

If I was teaching a class on photography I would require that these focal lengths to be used, for historical reasons if no other. I am not talking "experienced" or speciality uses here, but rather the most run-of-the-mill uses possible.

I personally dislike the 35mm aspect on APS-C, which corresponds to 52mm film. I never liked standard 50mm lenses on film either.

I even prefer 43mm on APS-C to 35mm, even though it corresponds to the wacky 64mm field of view. But that could be because the lens is the best Pentax has made. :-)

As for 135mm, it's very good we have a nice 10mm macro, but a distance lens optimised for portraits with at least f/2 largest aperture is missing. This would be perfect for stage / runway work. If it's a larger FA77 I would be very happy.

montecarlo · 09-03-2010, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by LINCOLN

Well , I will be very to see if there is a DAL prime lens announced.
DAL 50/1.7,28/1.8, 16/2.8..
What ever.

me too :-)

09-03-2010, 11:49 AM	#74
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by gazonk I know we (i.e. the experienced users) need that, but Pentax urgently needs a fast and cheap normal lens since such a lens has become such a common recommendation for kit lens users who want to take their photography one step further. 24mm corresponds to the classic street shooters film 35mm. 28mm corresponds to the true normal that Pentax had properly as 43mm. If I was teaching a class on photography I would require that these focal lengths to be used, for historical reasons if no other. I am not talking "experienced" or speciality uses here, but rather the most run-of-the-mill uses possible. I personally dislike the 35mm aspect on APS-C, which corresponds to 52mm film. I never liked standard 50mm lenses on film either. I even prefer 43mm on APS-C to 35mm, even though it corresponds to the wacky 64mm field of view. But that could be because the lens is the best Pentax has made. :-) As for 135mm, it's very good we have a nice 10mm macro, but a distance lens optimised for portraits with at least f/2 largest aperture is missing. This would be perfect for stage / runway work. If it's a larger FA77 I would be very happy. Last edited by rparmar; 09-03-2010 at 11:54 AM.

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09-02-2010, 02:03 PM	#61
lpfonseca Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lisbon Posts: 143	I would love a 200mm f/4 macro and a 80-400 f/4-5.6. Am I asking to much?

09-02-2010, 03:04 PM	#62
dankoBanana Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 533	Originally posted by lpfonseca I would love a 200mm f/4 macro and a 80-400 f/4-5.6. Am I asking to much? nope

09-02-2010, 08:44 PM	#63
LINCOLN New Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CANTON, CHINA Posts: 11	Well , I will be very to see if there is a DAL prime lens announced. DAL 50/1.7,28/1.8, 16/2.8.. What ever.

09-03-2010, 12:30 AM	#64
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Imo, the lack of lens releases recently implies that something big is coming. Something that would steal sales of the present lens line up if presented too early or introduced to market step by step. A few options comes to my mind: 1 D-FA lenses (would reduce both crop lens and camera sales if leaked too early) 2 WR update to many of the non * lenses 3 Lenses made for contrast AF

09-03-2010, 12:40 AM	#65
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Supernaut Imo, the lack of lens releases recently implies that something big is coming. Something that would steal sales of the present lens line up if presented too early or introduced to market step by step. A few options comes to my mind: 1 D-FA lenses (would reduce both crop lens and camera sales if leaked too early) 2 WR update to many of the non * lenses 3 Lenses made for contrast AF Sums it up pretty well. My thinking as well.

09-03-2010, 01:23 AM	#66
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by thibs Sums it up pretty well. My thinking as well. Unless Pentax surprises us with completely new lenses for a small-mount mirrorless, here's what I think may come: - Release of the already shown 645 ultra wide - A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this. - The mythical super tele (from the road map) - A Pentax-designed super zoom (or "almost super", e.g. 18-105) In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a relaunch of "the three amigos" in WR version with quick shift.

09-03-2010, 04:07 AM	#67
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by gazonk - Release of the already shown 645 ultra wide - A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this. - The mythical super tele (from the road map) - A Pentax-designed super zoom (or "almost super", e.g. 18-105) You're very close, very close indeed.

09-03-2010, 05:46 AM	#68
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by gazonk - A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this. We much more need a fast prime in the 24-28mm range. And the 135mm "range".

09-03-2010, 06:23 AM	#69
mtr_fingolfin New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: barcelona Posts: 9	I would like a light walk around lens, such as sigma 24-70 f2.8, but much lighter. I would like it to be a sharp IQ lens as well, indeed i am definitely asking too much.

09-03-2010, 07:06 AM	#70
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,371	A DA(-L?) 35mm f2,4 may be coming...

09-03-2010, 07:22 AM	#71
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by gazonk Unless Pentax surprises us with completely new lenses for a small-mount mirrorless, here's what I think may come: - Release of the already shown 645 ultra wide - A fast and inexpensive lens in the 30-35mm range. They really need this. - The mythical super tele (from the road map) - A Pentax-designed super zoom (or "almost super", e.g. 18-105) In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a relaunch of "the three amigos" in WR version with quick shift. Originally posted by ewalk You're very close, very close indeed. You are very close. We will see DAL's, not WR's, no data on the super-tele, but a new tele-"kit" lens.

09-03-2010, 08:26 AM	#72
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by rparmar We much more need a fast prime in the 24-28mm range. And the 135mm "range". I know we (i.e. the experienced users) need that, but Pentax urgently needs a fast and cheap normal lens since such a lens has become such a common recommendation for kit lens users who want to take their photography one step further.

09-03-2010, 11:44 AM	#73
Lincolnatus New Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 13	Originally posted by Aristophanes You are very close. We will see DAL's, not WR's, no data on the super-tele, but a new tele-"kit" lens. This is disappointing if true. I would rather see Pentax dedicate their lens manufacturing to lines which advance their strengths rather than their weaknesses. Quickshift is an acceptable bridge from the screwdrive system to in-lens motors. DA-L lenses are a step backwards. WR/AW lenses/bodies enable Pentax to differentiate themselves from their market competitors. I understand that Pentax has to compromise to hit certain price points in the market, but I'd rather that they were $20 more expensive if it meant that they could have a consistent lens line-up of: consumer = quickshift + non-sealed; pro = in-lens motor + sealed. They need to commit to their strengths. I also understand that they're stuck in a hard place with backwards compatibility being one of their strengths (e.g. the "limited" lenses), but they need to commit to a progressive roadmap. DA-L never should have happened IMO.

09-03-2010, 12:04 PM	#75
montecarlo Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 161	Originally posted by LINCOLN Well , I will be very to see if there is a DAL prime lens announced. DAL 50/1.7,28/1.8, 16/2.8.. What ever. me too :-)