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09-11-2010, 04:05 PM   #16
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https://network.pentax.eu/ex_gf.php?PHPSESSID=9eb6234acaf537242617e4d93cedea32&file_id=8323

09-11-2010, 09:56 PM   #17
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Andy, that URL doesn't seem to work unless one is a registered user of the site. Do you have another public pointer to the same information?
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https://network.pentax.eu/index.php?PHPSESSID=f60f642568bac8f3f7bc2a7b33fa68...folder_id=1034

go to "gastzugang"
than to "explorer"
than look for dslr
09-12-2010, 02:52 PM   #19
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QuoteOriginally posted by zackspeed Quote
go to "gastzugang"
than to "explorer"
than look for dslr
Thanks!

For anyone who's interested, the link is to a two-page spec sheet for the K-r.

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Andy, do you know what the status of the documents available through this site is?
Are they in the public domain?
Some are quite intriguing and I wonder if one can use them freely or whether their use is restricted?
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K-5 Body only 1400 €
K-5 + 18-55 WR 1450 €
K-5 +18-135 WR 1850 €
should/could be the price in Germany
09-12-2010, 05:09 PM   #22
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QuoteOriginally posted by zackspeed Quote
K-5 Body only 1400 €
Sony A850 body (FF) € 1685.

Not an entirely fair price comparison given how long the A850 has been on the market, but still a buyer today has the choice.
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why do you compare the sony internet price,with the pentax originalprice who never will be in the shops?
unfair

09-12-2010, 07:12 PM   #24
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QuoteOriginally posted by zackspeed Quote
unfair
I agree, I agree.

Only a relatively useful comparison for someone who needs to buy a camera on the 23 September and wonders what the top up price for going full-frame is... OK, still unfair.

I'm glad to hear that the K-5 will never be in the shops for that price.

N.B., bearing all unfairness it mind, it shows that the prices between a top-level Pentax APS-C and a full frame SONY (which is almost their previous flagship minus a bit of FPS and minus a bit of viewfinder coverage) do not differ like day and night anymore.

The problem with the SONY, as I see it are the follow-on costs. Their upper-level lenses are great but expensive and their proprietary (Minolta) hot-shoe makes access to standard flash equipment a bit harder than necessary.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
N.B., bearing all unfairness it mind, it shows that the prices between a top-level Pentax APS-C and a full frame SONY (which is almost their previous flagship minus a bit of FPS and minus a bit of viewfinder coverage) do not differ like day and night anymore.
When the A850 was introduced it came in just under $3000CAD where if now conveniently sits at $2400CAD

The K-5 will most likely come-in at or around $1650CAD and settle in the mid $1300 region shortly after the holidays.

Would you consider a $1000 dollar difference night and day?
Also... the A850 is a sloth in contrast to the K-5, even slower than an old K20D.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JohnBee Quote
When the A850 was introduced it came in just under $3000CAD where if now conveniently sits at $2400CAD
It can be purchased in Canada from CAD $2074 onwards.

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The K-5 will most likely come-in at or around $1650CAD and settle in the mid $1300 region shortly after the holidays.
I'm all for that but currently the currency converted price would be CAD $1852.

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Would you consider a $1000 dollar difference night and day?
Yes, but that's not the current difference. (As unfair as the comparison may be.)

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Also... the A850 is a sloth in contrast to the K-5, even slower than an old K20D.
Both K20D and A850 have 3 FPS (the latter does it for FF, though). If you need more FPS you need to go the A900.

But I agree that there are selling points for the K-5. Just wanted to point out that the price gap between APS-C and FF seems to be vanishing. You can read that as "there will be a Pentax FF in 2012" if you like.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
But I agree that there are selling points for the K-5. Just wanted to point out that the price gap between APS-C and FF seems to be vanishing. You can read that as "there will be a Pentax FF in 2012" if you like.
I disagree, the difference would be vanishing if newly introduced FF would be near newly introduced APS-C. Comparing to an 'old' FF really there's no point IMO.

It doesn't mean it won't be true in 2 weeks if there's a D800 or something. But for now, nothing new.
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Sony A850 body (FF) 1685.
I agree, this is very tempting!
And it's not unfair at all.
At this time I have the option to get a FF camera for only 300 more.
Hmm ... hmm ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by zackspeed Quote
K-5 Body only 1400
K-5 + 18-55 WR 1450
K-5 +18-135 WR 1850
should/could be the price in Germany
Based on?
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QuoteOriginally posted by zackspeed Quote
K-5 Body only 1400
K-5 + 18-55 WR 1450
K-5 +18-135 WR 1850
should/could be the price in Germany
It better have a good spec to sell well at that price imo.
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