More K-r Specs

**rparmar** · 09-08-2010, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by glanglois

Anyway, I've a few Fuller's porter in the fridge and intend to open one directly I log off. Should follow the IPA nicely with pudding. Which brewer was lucky enough to receive your custom, notIan?

Beamish, actually. Cheaper than Guinness and a lot tastier. The trick is finding a pub with enough sales to keep it fresh. But I have no problems at all finding good pubs. It's a life skill.

**rparmar** · 09-08-2010, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

That's why God created eBay and Chinese knock-off markets

I knew there had to be a reason.

Dubesor · 09-08-2010, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers

The K-r looks to right the few wrongs that plagued the K-x, and gradually improves everywhere else. The cheap primes also looks like a winner, can't wait till the 9th!

What's this about cheap primes? Don't mean to take the thread off-topic, but I can't find any other info on these on the forum or google ...

ewalk · 09-08-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Dubesor

What's this about cheap primes? Don't mean to take the thread off-topic, but I can't find any other info on these on the forum or google ...

There's a rumored 30-35mm f/2-2.4 prime set for release in the next couple of weeks. It's supposed to be around $199.

Dubesor · 09-08-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by ewalk

There's a rumored 30-35mm f/2-2.4 prime set for release in the next couple of weeks. It's supposed to be around $199.

Holy moly, that's exciting. If it's roughly on the same IQ level as the Sigma 30/1.4, I'm in. Especially if it's smaller.

Mistral75 · 09-08-2010, 03:14 PM

The corresponding rumour:

For tomorrow: Pentax K-r, DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens and two Optio cameras | Photo Rumors

glanglois · 09-08-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

Beamish, actually. Cheaper than Guinness and a lot tastier. The trick is finding a pub with enough sales to keep it fresh. But I have no problems at all finding good pubs. It's a life skill.

While we're waiting for real news ......

I get Beamish stout at the local supermarket but have not enjoyed their porter. One more thing for the trip checklist ..... Thanks!

Christopher M.W.T · 09-08-2010, 03:47 PM

Infrared Data transmission, that's interesting.....

Maybe its part of a flash system upgrade

yeatzee · 09-08-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

The corresponding rumour:

For tomorrow: Pentax K-r, DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens and two Optio cameras | Photo Rumors

If its F/2.4 I'd consider it a failure IMO...

C'mon pentax, a 35mm as slow as that? Why????? Thats just plain stupid.

They have the FA 35mm F/2 ready to go, all it needs is a new body and they would have sold thousands upon thousands assuming the price was right (this $400+ BS with the used FA's is pretty irritating).

ewalk · 09-08-2010, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

If its F/2.4 I'd consider it a failure IMO...

C'mon pentax, a 35mm as slow as that? Why????? Thats just plain stupid.

Not everyone needs a lens faster than f/2? *shrug*

Assuming that the price is right (less than $200) I think it'll still sell very, very well. Especially if it's small and lightweight. A lens doesn't have to have a certain aperture to be a success or a failure. People who post here aren't likely to be the target market for this lens.

TOUGEFC · 09-08-2010, 04:17 PM

take a look at the da40, thats a 2.8 and its one if the most sold lens today.

**1marek** · 09-08-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by TOUGEFC

take a look at the da40, thats a 2.8 and its one if the most sold lens today.

Yeah, but IMO that has to do more with the price (considering the Ltd tag) than the 2,8 aperture...
We still need a cheap 30ish prime

creampuff · 09-08-2010, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

If its F/2.4 I'd consider it a failure IMO...

C'mon pentax, a 35mm as slow as that? Why????? Thats just plain stupid.

They have the FA 35mm F/2 ready to go, all it needs is a new body and they would have sold thousands upon thousands assuming the price was right (this $400+ BS with the used FA's is pretty irritating).

Fully agree on this.
Producing a lens of 35mm focal length that is f/2 or faster is not something new. Heck Sony just announced a 35mm f/1.8, so why can't Pentax?

Originally posted by ewalk

Not everyone needs a lens faster than f/2? *shrug*

Assuming that the price is right (less than $200) I think it'll still sell very, very well. Especially if it's small and lightweight. A lens doesn't have to have a certain aperture to be a success or a failure. People who post here aren't likely to be the target market for this lens.

Originally posted by TOUGEFC

take a look at the da40, thats a 2.8 and its one if the most sold lens today.

Well the DA 40mm Limited is a fine lens and it sells a lot because it is the cheapest DA Limited and because of the novelty of being very compact. But once one gets over the novelty of small size, the limitations of a prime lens of f/2.8 maximum aperture are pretty obvious.

To me it is stupid for Pentax to continue to churn out DA series lenses that are not faster than the current f/2.4 found on the DA 70mm Limited. The novelty of compact size for the DA range of prime lenses wears thin pretty quickly when you realize that there are already f/2.8 zoom lenses and when you need a maximum aperture that's faster that what a good zoom can offer. Having f/2.4 or f/2.8 for a dedicated prime lens just doesn't cut it imo. Where is the speed advantage in terms of maximum aperture?

Nubi · 09-08-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

Beamish, actually. Cheaper than Guinness and a lot tastier. The trick is finding a pub with enough sales to keep it fresh. But I have no problems at all finding good pubs. It's a life skill.

Murphy is not bad either.

openyourap · 09-08-2010, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T

Infrared Data transmission, that's interesting.....

Maybe its part of a flash system upgrade

IR for data transmission to your PC is so 2001 (and far too slow).

Now if they went with in-camera WiFi for your PC and emulated PW for the flash, that would be another matter.

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09-08-2010, 05:47 AM	#76
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,817	Originally posted by glanglois Anyway, I've a few Fuller's porter in the fridge and intend to open one directly I log off. Should follow the IPA nicely with pudding. Which brewer was lucky enough to receive your custom, notIan? Beamish, actually. Cheaper than Guinness and a lot tastier. The trick is finding a pub with enough sales to keep it fresh. But I have no problems at all finding good pubs. It's a life skill.

09-08-2010, 05:47 AM	#77
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,817	Originally posted by JohnBee That's why God created eBay and Chinese knock-off markets I knew there had to be a reason.

09-08-2010, 02:37 PM	#78
Dubesor Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 336	Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers The K-r looks to right the few wrongs that plagued the K-x, and gradually improves everywhere else. The cheap primes also looks like a winner, can't wait till the 9th! What's this about cheap primes? Don't mean to take the thread off-topic, but I can't find any other info on these on the forum or google ...

09-08-2010, 02:54 PM	#79
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by Dubesor What's this about cheap primes? Don't mean to take the thread off-topic, but I can't find any other info on these on the forum or google ... There's a rumored 30-35mm f/2-2.4 prime set for release in the next couple of weeks. It's supposed to be around $199.

09-08-2010, 02:57 PM	#80
Dubesor Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 336	Originally posted by ewalk There's a rumored 30-35mm f/2-2.4 prime set for release in the next couple of weeks. It's supposed to be around $199. Holy moly, that's exciting. If it's roughly on the same IQ level as the Sigma 30/1.4, I'm in. Especially if it's smaller.

09-08-2010, 03:14 PM	#81
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	The corresponding rumour: For tomorrow: Pentax K-r, DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens and two Optio cameras \| Photo Rumors

09-08-2010, 03:15 PM	#82
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by rparmar Beamish, actually. Cheaper than Guinness and a lot tastier. The trick is finding a pub with enough sales to keep it fresh. But I have no problems at all finding good pubs. It's a life skill. While we're waiting for real news ...... I get Beamish stout at the local supermarket but have not enjoyed their porter. One more thing for the trip checklist ..... Thanks!

09-08-2010, 03:47 PM	#83
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Infrared Data transmission, that's interesting..... Maybe its part of a flash system upgrade

09-08-2010, 04:06 PM	#84
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by Mistral75 The corresponding rumour: For tomorrow: Pentax K-r, DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens and two Optio cameras \| Photo Rumors If its F/2.4 I'd consider it a failure IMO... C'mon pentax, a 35mm as slow as that? Why????? Thats just plain stupid. They have the FA 35mm F/2 ready to go, all it needs is a new body and they would have sold thousands upon thousands assuming the price was right (this $400+ BS with the used FA's is pretty irritating).

09-08-2010, 04:14 PM	#85
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by yeatzee If its F/2.4 I'd consider it a failure IMO... C'mon pentax, a 35mm as slow as that? Why????? Thats just plain stupid. Not everyone needs a lens faster than f/2? shrug Assuming that the price is right (less than $200) I think it'll still sell very, very well. Especially if it's small and lightweight. A lens doesn't have to have a certain aperture to be a success or a failure. People who post here aren't likely to be the target market for this lens.

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09-08-2010, 04:17 PM	#86
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	take a look at the da40, thats a 2.8 and its one if the most sold lens today.

09-08-2010, 04:36 PM	#87
1marek Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Medjimurje, Croatia Photos: Albums Posts: 40	Originally posted by TOUGEFC take a look at the da40, thats a 2.8 and its one if the most sold lens today. Yeah, but IMO that has to do more with the price (considering the Ltd tag) than the 2,8 aperture... We still need a cheap 30ish prime

09-08-2010, 04:53 PM	#88
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by yeatzee If its F/2.4 I'd consider it a failure IMO... C'mon pentax, a 35mm as slow as that? Why????? Thats just plain stupid. They have the FA 35mm F/2 ready to go, all it needs is a new body and they would have sold thousands upon thousands assuming the price was right (this $400+ BS with the used FA's is pretty irritating). Fully agree on this. Producing a lens of 35mm focal length that is f/2 or faster is not something new. Heck Sony just announced a 35mm f/1.8, so why can't Pentax? Originally posted by ewalk Not everyone needs a lens faster than f/2? shrug Assuming that the price is right (less than $200) I think it'll still sell very, very well. Especially if it's small and lightweight. A lens doesn't have to have a certain aperture to be a success or a failure. People who post here aren't likely to be the target market for this lens. Originally posted by TOUGEFC take a look at the da40, thats a 2.8 and its one if the most sold lens today. Well the DA 40mm Limited is a fine lens and it sells a lot because it is the cheapest DA Limited and because of the novelty of being very compact. But once one gets over the novelty of small size, the limitations of a prime lens of f/2.8 maximum aperture are pretty obvious. To me it is stupid for Pentax to continue to churn out DA series lenses that are not faster than the current f/2.4 found on the DA 70mm Limited. The novelty of compact size for the DA range of prime lenses wears thin pretty quickly when you realize that there are already f/2.8 zoom lenses and when you need a maximum aperture that's faster that what a good zoom can offer. Having f/2.4 or f/2.8 for a dedicated prime lens just doesn't cut it imo. Where is the speed advantage in terms of maximum aperture?

09-08-2010, 05:21 PM	#89
Nubi Guest	Originally posted by rparmar Beamish, actually. Cheaper than Guinness and a lot tastier. The trick is finding a pub with enough sales to keep it fresh. But I have no problems at all finding good pubs. It's a life skill. Murphy is not bad either.

09-08-2010, 05:31 PM	#90
openyourap Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 171	Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T Infrared Data transmission, that's interesting..... Maybe its part of a flash system upgrade IR for data transmission to your PC is so 2001 (and far too slow). Now if they went with in-camera WiFi for your PC and emulated PW for the flash, that would be another matter.