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09-14-2010, 12:50 PM   #421
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High ISO tests over here:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/114465...ucks-myth.html

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Because I was curious, I quickly set up the K-x for a still life shot at ISO 12,800 using the FA43. I set it to f/4 and the camera metered 1/60s. The K-x was used on a tripod with mirror lock up.

Here are two 100% crops, the first untouched, as converted from RAW by ACR with everything on neutral (NR and sharpening off). Since I would never care to look at an image unprocessed, the second crop shows the results after my "usual" PP, though with no special time taken over it. (I might have chosen to back off on the sharpening a tad.) Noise reduction has here been applied using a minimal setting of Noise Ninja. I note that all the in-camera NR is turned off.


100% crop untouched




100% crop processed




complete image processed



The final picture is the processed image in full, though obviously resized for the screen. Any artefacts visible in the crop are here rendered palatable. I have no problem with this image, though would never "in real life" resort to such a high ISO.

Also the subject needs some work! :-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by rparmar Quote
Because I was curious, I quickly set up the K-x for a still life shot at ISO 12,800 using the FA43. I set it to f/4 and the camera metered 1/60s. The K-x was used on a tripod with mirror lock up.

Here are two 100% crops, the first untouched, as converted from RAW by ACR with everything on neutral (NR and sharpening off). Since I would never care to look at an image unprocessed, the second crop shows the results after my "usual" PP, though with no special time taken over it. (I might have chosen to back off on the sharpening a tad.) Noise reduction has here been applied using a minimal setting of Noise Ninja. I note that all the in-camera NR is turned off
The final picture is the processed image in full, though obviously resized for the screen. Any artefacts visible in the crop are here rendered palatable. I have no problem with this image, though would never "in real life" resort to such a high ISO.

Also the subject needs some work! :-)
Not bad for noise ninja. I used NN for a long time till recently. I'd use 12,800 in a heartbeat these days. This wedding had terrible lighting. The versions of this shot that I previously put up were raw with no WB adjustment. (I have 1 standard custom WB setting for my IR camera) This version has been adjusted for WB some slight sharpening(UM) and light RAW noise reduction in Topaz 4 with the clean color ramped up all the way

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The colour is so distracting on that one...I'd make it monochrome. Just an idea!

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QuoteOriginally posted by rparmar Quote
The colour is so distracting on that one...I'd make it monochrome. Just an idea!
Yes, the odd color is actually desired by the bride. The dresses were black and pink. I've also done some custom duotones and monochrome. Funky colors though for sure...
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not impressed with high ISO images

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THAT'S the phenomenal ISO 12,800 everyone keeps raving about on the Kx? I'm sure you did what you could with what you had. I'm not knocking your photo but sorry, that would be an ISO I would not be using unless I Absolutely had to simply to document an event.


I have to agree with Jeff here. Nothing against the photographer here.. but that image with 12,800 ISO. I would not use that setting either. Unless the K-R is much cleaner... I'm not a fan of that high ISO. If it had a more film like grain maybe.. but it just looks noisy to me.

I do like the B&W version much better.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JeffJS Quote
THAT'S the phenomenal ISO 12,800 everyone keeps raving about on the Kx? I'm sure you did what you could with what you had. I'm not knocking your photo but sorry, that would be an ISO I would not be using unless I Absolutely had to simply to document an event.

LOL. Yes I'd agree about the output as it looks here. But I'd never leave it there. The white balance on the cooler side shows more color gremlins than on the warmer side, which is what the actual lighting was. The other camera used at this wedding was a d700 and had nearly the same output in noise since I turn off all NR in camera preferring to use Topaz. Take a look at the finished product on page 29. that is absolutely usable in my unhumble opinion
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Praise be to competition

QuoteOriginally posted by lurchlarson Quote
If that is the case, I really need to save my pennies to buy it. I'd buy it for the $1600 too. (Just thought I'd get ahead of those that tend to gripe about Pentax Prices). If it was a Canon or Nikon it'd be more than that.
Thank your lucky stars for the Nikon D7000, which has a retail price of $1199. Based on the specs of these cameras, a fair retail price for the K-5 is going to have to come down to around $1299.

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why would you choose the K-5 instead of the new Nikon D7000?
http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/new-nikon-d7000-simply-amazing.html
Nikon D7000: Camera Road Test With Chase Jarvis | Chase Jarvis Blog
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Why not?
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I'm not buying a K5, but on the other hand I could really care less what Chase Jarvis whoever he is thinks. And...I would never take a camera review serious that uses "kick a##" to describe the camera. It's like totally like non like serious like you know.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gybp Quote
why would you choose the K-5 instead of the new Nikon D7000?
Don't forget, the K-5 has 4 rows of knurls on the mode dial. Looks like D7000 has only 3



Nikon is doomed!

Seriously, D7000 looks like a great camera. I'd call it the next best thing....after the K-5

/Tommy
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only 3????????????????
tzzz..... Nikon is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!
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Nikon = button overload.
Speaking as an ex-Nikon DSLR user of course...
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To much plastik for my opinion,but for sure a good camera
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