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**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by ennacac

Not the least bit interested unless the AF equals that of my D700.

Tom

Then Tom, you can be sure this camera is not for you.
Comparing a high-end FF camera with the K-5 is pretty unfair, and a fruitless exercise. THe D700 AF would just blitz SAFOX IX. And why shouldn't it for that price...

**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by mattdm

But not one right in the center? That's weird.

What camera wouldn't have a centre point for focusing? Whatever the number of points, there WILL be one right in the centre (can't believe I'm even saying this)...

ogl · 09-09-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by mattdm

But not one right in the center? That's weird.

It's just my guess.

JohanBene · 09-09-2010, 10:07 PM

Focuspoint in the center or all the points symetrically spread. With an even number of points you can only pick one

TomE · 09-09-2010, 10:19 PM

Well my PZ-1P focuses that fast, so why not the K-5?

Originally posted by Ash

Then Tom, you can be sure this camera is not for you.
Comparing a high-end FF camera with the K-5 is pretty unfair, and a fruitless exercise. THe D700 AF would just blitz SAFOX IX. And why shouldn't it for that price...

ogl · 09-09-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T

• 18-point wide autofocus system (SAFOX IX+)

[/b]

One man said me about 19 points. Several months ago.

ogl · 09-09-2010, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by ennacac

Well my PZ-1P focuses that fast, so why not the K-5?

K-7 is faster than Z-1P

tomtor · 09-09-2010, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by JohanBene

Focuspoint in the center or all the points symetrically spread. With an even number of points you can only pick one

You can have two in the center. A large and a spot one.

3 x 5, 2 on the side and 1 additional in the center.

**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by ennacac

Well my PZ-1P focuses that fast, so why not the K-5?

As fast as the D700?
Is that including in low light situations?

jmbradd · 09-09-2010, 10:48 PM

I think the k-5 will be exactly what I need. I don't shoot pro gigs nor feel compelled to have my gear pretend for me that I do so I don't need the sexy specs but I do want HD video to expand the things I can dabble in. Faster AF would be great as my k20d isn't quite as accurate as I would like it to be.

Probably wait for the price to go down but I think this will make my trip to Hawaii pretty fun if I can get it prior to then! Now, if someone would make an underwater housing that didn't cost as much as 2 cameras then I think i'd really be sitting pretty.

**jon.partsch** · 09-09-2010, 11:07 PM

A lot of those specs sound VERY fishy, but good - if it's all crap, I hope it won't spoil the real K-5 specs for us.

A few points, but most importantly: The hybrid VF sounds stupid. What Pentax really needs is to offer a split prism focus screen already!!! It is just nuts to offer legacy lens support and then put us all in a situation where we have to send a ton of money to a third party, mess with shims and spot metering corrections all for what should be a cheap accessory that Pentax could EASILY offer themselves and provide support for. It's really a bit maddening, to be honest.

The 8 FPS sounds too good to be true. I hope it's in there, and with reliable, fast AF in burst mode.

The ISO numbers sound weird. Why no native ISO 100? What about these sensors prevent them from offering native ISO 100 or ISO 50? What is an "expanded" ISO anyway, and would it affect the quality? If ISO 100 IQ is no better than ISO 200 then what's the point?

The 18-point AF sounds bunk. Makes no sense, and would not be called almost the same name as the system in the K-r when it has 3 more points and a different layout.

That's my take anyway....

Supernaut · 09-09-2010, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T

• 18-point wide autofocus system (SAFOX IX+)
• AF-Single
• AF-Continuous
• 4 Custom AF-C modes, auto, action, portrait, night
• Manual focus
[/b]

I would not call that SAFOX iX+ but rather SAFOX X+.

And price is a bit too high for that spec imo.

opiszon · 09-09-2010, 11:18 PM

first official photo of k-5 ?
as optyczne.pl claims, it's first leaked image
can You spot any difference between this k-5 and k-7 ? I cannot see anything
Pentax K-5 - pierwsze zdj?cie - Optyczne.pl
http://lenstip.com/1857-news-Pentax_K-5_photo_leaked.html

Kenn100D · 09-09-2010, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T

Well it's definitely more expensive than the K-7 when I got it in July last year.

I paid $1999 for the unit inc Sigma 17-70.

But still if its feature set and AF systems are that good it would be worth it.

No Surprise. Even Here it is around 1500+ Eur.

**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 11:20 PM

That's why my own prediction is SAFOX IX+ with 11 AF points yet more reliable yet faster algorithms as well as 7fps (as per Sony A580) and a very decent high ISO improvement - comparable to the K-r.

09-09-2010, 11:07 PM	#71
jon.partsch Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 442	A lot of those specs sound VERY fishy, but good - if it's all crap, I hope it won't spoil the real K-5 specs for us. A few points, but most importantly: The hybrid VF sounds stupid. What Pentax really needs is to offer a split prism focus screen already!!! It is just nuts to offer legacy lens support and then put us all in a situation where we have to send a ton of money to a third party, mess with shims and spot metering corrections all for what should be a cheap accessory that Pentax could EASILY offer themselves and provide support for. It's really a bit maddening, to be honest. The 8 FPS sounds too good to be true. I hope it's in there, and with reliable, fast AF in burst mode. The ISO numbers sound weird. Why no native ISO 100? What about these sensors prevent them from offering native ISO 100 or ISO 50? What is an "expanded" ISO anyway, and would it affect the quality? If ISO 100 IQ is no better than ISO 200 then what's the point? The 18-point AF sounds bunk. Makes no sense, and would not be called almost the same name as the system in the K-r when it has 3 more points and a different layout. That's my take anyway.... Last edited by jon.partsch; 09-09-2010 at 11:13 PM.

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09-09-2010, 09:38 PM	#61
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by ennacac Not the least bit interested unless the AF equals that of my D700. Tom Then Tom, you can be sure this camera is not for you. Comparing a high-end FF camera with the K-5 is pretty unfair, and a fruitless exercise. THe D700 AF would just blitz SAFOX IX. And why shouldn't it for that price...

09-09-2010, 09:41 PM	#62
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by mattdm But not one right in the center? That's weird. What camera wouldn't have a centre point for focusing? Whatever the number of points, there WILL be one right in the centre (can't believe I'm even saying this)...

09-09-2010, 09:52 PM	#63
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by mattdm But not one right in the center? That's weird. It's just my guess.

09-09-2010, 10:07 PM	#64
JohanBene New Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Stockholm Posts: 11	Focuspoint in the center or all the points symetrically spread. With an even number of points you can only pick one

09-09-2010, 10:19 PM	#65
TomE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 299	Well my PZ-1P focuses that fast, so why not the K-5? Originally posted by Ash Then Tom, you can be sure this camera is not for you. Comparing a high-end FF camera with the K-5 is pretty unfair, and a fruitless exercise. THe D700 AF would just blitz SAFOX IX. And why shouldn't it for that price...

09-09-2010, 10:34 PM	#66
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T • 18-point wide autofocus system (SAFOX IX+) [/b] One man said me about 19 points. Several months ago.

09-09-2010, 10:35 PM	#67
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ennacac Well my PZ-1P focuses that fast, so why not the K-5? K-7 is faster than Z-1P

09-09-2010, 10:40 PM	#68
tomtor Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 382	Originally posted by JohanBene Focuspoint in the center or all the points symetrically spread. With an even number of points you can only pick one You can have two in the center. A large and a spot one. 3 x 5, 2 on the side and 1 additional in the center.

09-09-2010, 10:45 PM	#69
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by ennacac Well my PZ-1P focuses that fast, so why not the K-5? As fast as the D700? Is that including in low light situations?

09-09-2010, 10:48 PM	#70
jmbradd Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland, OR Photos: Albums Posts: 325	I think the k-5 will be exactly what I need. I don't shoot pro gigs nor feel compelled to have my gear pretend for me that I do so I don't need the sexy specs but I do want HD video to expand the things I can dabble in. Faster AF would be great as my k20d isn't quite as accurate as I would like it to be. Probably wait for the price to go down but I think this will make my trip to Hawaii pretty fun if I can get it prior to then! Now, if someone would make an underwater housing that didn't cost as much as 2 cameras then I think i'd really be sitting pretty.

09-09-2010, 11:09 PM	#72
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T • 18-point wide autofocus system (SAFOX IX+) • AF-Single • AF-Continuous • 4 Custom AF-C modes, auto, action, portrait, night • Manual focus [/b] I would not call that SAFOX iX+ but rather SAFOX X+. And price is a bit too high for that spec imo.

09-09-2010, 11:18 PM	#73
opiszon Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Poznań, miasto doznań Posts: 80	first official photo of k-5 ? as optyczne.pl claims, it's first leaked image can You spot any difference between this k-5 and k-7 ? I cannot see anything Pentax K-5 - pierwsze zdj?cie - Optyczne.pl http://lenstip.com/1857-news-Pentax_K-5_photo_leaked.html

09-09-2010, 11:19 PM	#74
Kenn100D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paranaque City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	Originally posted by Christopher M.W.T Well it's definitely more expensive than the K-7 when I got it in July last year. I paid $1999 for the unit inc Sigma 17-70. But still if its feature set and AF systems are that good it would be worth it. No Surprise. Even Here it is around 1500+ Eur.

09-09-2010, 11:20 PM	#75
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	That's why my own prediction is SAFOX IX+ with 11 AF points yet more reliable yet faster algorithms as well as 7fps (as per Sony A580) and a very decent high ISO improvement - comparable to the K-r.

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