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09-15-2010, 03:33 PM   #241
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QuoteOriginally posted by gawan Quote
Like a digital K1000, perhaps? Wasn't K1000 the successful, simple and trusty companion for a whole generation of students in the late 70's. I think I'd like that!
Yeah, but it's not really the match for the limited lenses. It's a match for the new 35mm ƒ/2.4.

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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
That statement is oversimplifying things.

There are enough sectors where 24MP FF is a minimum requirement, like fine art erotic photography for pay websites. Or fashion photography and portraiture. I agree, some may go MF anyway, but APSC pro usage now is more in the photo journalism, or event, wildlife and travel photography.

In any case, most vendors call their top notch APSC cameras enthusiast and mid-level, reserving the term pro model to D3 or 1D models. Which aren't APSC.
The problem is that this "minimum requirement" is only valid for the very few; this is reflected in the slow sales of FF cameras in spite of the fact that it is the amateurs that mostly buy them.
And this is the problem; Pentax will not sell a FF camera to these pros. Nor would they sell many to the amateurs either as they are mostly bought for bragging rights and as we all know only Nikon and Canon give that right.
Anyway, Pentax will sell a few to the Pentax users with lots of old lenses. There are no signs that FF is about to take over the enthusiast market.
Although a Pentax FF would fit the line-up perfectly between the APS and MF it is debatable that such a camera would be profitable if not a financial disaster. I would not in any case expect a price leading FF camera from Pentax anytime soon. If it comes it will be expensive. But I am pretty sure that Pentax are reviewing the FF prospect on a regular basis and have prototypes.
APS is the new 35mm.....
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
That statement is oversimplifying things.

There are enough sectors where 24MP FF is a minimum requirement, like fine art erotic photography for pay websites. Or fashion photography and portraiture. I agree, some may go MF anyway, but APSC pro usage now is more in the photo journalism, or event, wildlife and travel photography.

In any case, most vendors call their top notch APSC cameras enthusiast and mid-level, reserving the term pro model to D3 or 1D models. Which aren't APSC.
Did you just use fine art erotic photography and "Pay websites" in the same sentence? :wowcb:



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The D7000 doesn't even have 25fps 1080p movies! Haven't they heard of the PAL TV system?

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The D7000 doesn't even have 25fps 1080p movies! Haven't they heard of the PAL TV system?
The same way that Pentax hasn't heard of NTSC when designing K-r.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vaikis_ Quote
new Pentax K-5 with true AF.C after 5 days, guys hold your pants, screw drive is very FAST ! (
Ha, ha, very funny ...
Screwdrive is already very fast on the K20, K7 ...
SDM is the problem!
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QuoteOriginally posted by blende8 Quote
Ha, ha, very funny ...
Screwdrive is already very fast on the K20, K7 ...
SDM is the problem!
not on K20, I comapred as I have both Yes SDM is problem and all knows, even Pentax.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vaikis_ Quote
not on K20, I comapred as I have both Yes SDM is problem and all knows, even Pentax.
Will Pentax remake SDM? Will make it more solid and durable?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Arpe Quote
The D7000 doesn't even have 25fps 1080p movies! Haven't they heard of the PAL TV system?
QuoteOriginally posted by nosnoop Quote
The same way that Pentax hasn't heard of NTSC when designing K-r.


To be honest Pal & NTSC are pretty much irrelevant in the digital world, they are just holdovers from an ancient and moribund system, so why bother even referring to it?


Plus any way you find majority of content produced on digital SLR's etc tends to find its way mainly on the internet and seldom onto broadcast (unless done by pros)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Christopher M.W.T Quote
To be honest Pal & NTSC are pretty much irrelevant in the digital world, they are just holdovers from an ancient and moribund system, so why bother even referring to it?
Because my TV is PAL. Seems a good reason to me. Not everyone sticks stuff on the net. Do you want to see video of me blowing out candles and opening parcels, probably not! It's for home viewing that stuff.

Just like all other features, just because one person doesn't care about it doesn't mean nobody does.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Will Pentax remake SDM? Will make it more solid and durable?
Are you asking us?
You seem to be the one who would know these things...
Please tell us it will be so!
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QuoteOriginally posted by rparmar Quote
The way it is shaping up, the K-x/K-7 might well be the closest Pentax ever come to this. Their cameras are getting bigger and more expensive and that is a bad thing.
Hmm, I think you're being too pessimistic here. The K-r has a higher intro msrp in the US, but as far as I can tell from dpreviews articles on both cameras, the msrp for the K-r in the UK is exactly the same as for the K-x a year ago.

Here in Norway, I see that online (and brick&mortar) retailer japanphoto.no already has the K-r in its internet shop for NOK 5990 with the 18-55. That's a bit more expensive than the K-x a year ago (5299 then), but seems perfectly reasonable given that they still offer both the K-x (now 4499) and the K-m (now 2999).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
Did you just use fine art erotic photography and "Pay websites" in the same sentence? :wowcb:



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We talked about pro photographers, didn't we?

I agree that most pay sites don't require high image quality though ...

But I assume that e.g. photographer Petter Hegre from Norway is much more successful than photographer Walter Bosque from Argentina also because of the inferior image quality of the latter (APSC vs. MF). It is interesting to observe the commercial aspects of non pornography photography websites.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Christopher M.W.T Quote
To be honest Pal & NTSC are pretty much irrelevant in the digital world, they are just holdovers from an ancient and moribund system, so why bother even referring to it?
Because any time you make a DVD or delivery video files to a broadcaster they need it in one format or the other.
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The D7000 doesn't even have 25fps 1080p movies! Haven't they heard of the PAL TV system?
all Nikons I ever had, have Pal in their Menus
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