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09-17-2010, 09:23 AM   #1
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Another ISO 12800 sample from D7000, good news for K-5?

Here is another sample of ISO 12800 from Robin-P: Nikon Day - D7000 ā 12800ISO | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Sure I understand that this is a "Nikon-designed" 16MP sensor, but I can't see Pentax using the Sony 16MP sensor can be that far behind. In fact, Pentax did so well with the Sony sensor in the K-x, I am staying cautiously optimistic to see what Pentax can do with K-5. I love rooting for the underdog ...

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QuoteOriginally posted by leeak Quote
Here is another sample of ISO 12800 from Robin-P: Nikon Day - D7000 ā 12800ISO | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Sure I understand that this is a "Nikon-designed" 16MP sensor, but I can't see Pentax using the Sony 16MP sensor can be that far behind. In fact, Pentax did so well with the Sony sensor in the K-x, I am staying cautiously optimistic to see what Pentax can do with K-5. I love rooting for the underdog ...
I read that the Nikon sensor is custom made from the same Sony design. However... for what it's worth, Pentax has a habit of eeking more detail out of their designs than their competitors ans so I'm pretty optimistic about the K-5 at this stage of things.

One often overlooked attribute in this whole D7000 vs K-5 shenanigan is where Pentax could very well end-up with a better IQ and faster FPS system than Nikon. Which would not put them in a positive position in the market, but also as a leading competitor insofar as performance goes.

Either way, there's only a few more days to go before the BIG moment. It's definitely going to be an exciting time for the Pentaxians come Monday
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Lets keep our fingers crossed. there are only 3 more days. I am excited but a little bit worried.
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It looks like the Sony sensors fit the whole Pentax image philosophy (emphasis on contrast-dynamic range and color depth) thus creating an harmonic cooperation.

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That is outstanding high ISO .... that is a concert shooters dream.

Plus, low light museum stuff, candids etc, etc, the list is to long. We are almost at the point of "if you can see it, you can shoot it" ...... Fantastic !


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cautiously optimistic

i'm going to be just that, cautiously optimistic.

i'm almost 100% sure the IQ will be great, what i'm really hoping for is much better low light AF speed, accuracy and hopefully tracking.

since the AFc has now several modes, something NO older pentax dslr has ever had, i'm hoping that Pentax has finally addressed their "weak" point which is AF.

sure, not everyone will need that souped-up AF, but for sure all will benefit.

i'm croxxing my fingers... and my toes...
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Hold your horses everybody. The image is downsized to 2.something MP and shows banding.
Although the A55 from Sony does not so it could be just an early sample.
Never the less, if you push the image it still shows good gradients in shadows.
It will be good.
By the way, if Pentax do what they usually do and not amp the chip as much (leaving less Highlights data but also less noise and more shadow data) then we could get a image that even better.
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QuoteOriginally posted by climit Quote
It looks like the Sony sensors fit the whole Pentax image philosophy (emphasis on contrast-dynamic range and color depth) thus creating an harmonic cooperation.
Is that really Pentax image philosophy, considering the current flagship K7 setting all-time-low record in dynamic range (well maybe not all-time, but it was not up to par)?

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I think the sensors are the same. The difference between camera models has to do with different AA & color filters as well as the image processor.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Steelski Quote
Hold your horses everybody. The image is downsized to 2.something MP and shows banding.
Although the A55 from Sony does not so it could be just an early sample.
Never the less, if you push the image it still shows good gradients in shadows.
It will be good.
By the way, if Pentax do what they usually do and not amp the chip as much (leaving less Highlights data but also less noise and more shadow data) then we could get a image that even better.
Robin-P just updated with a 100% crop at ISO12800 with no PP:



With the crippling of the new D60 and minimal update of the E5, the race for the best crop sensor crown is going to be between D7000 and K-5. Should be exciting. It's fun watching this unfold.
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Yeah, I'm still not impressed with this. It looks no better, maybe even worse than the K-x and A55. I care more about noise and detail at ISO 100/200 though. I know it's my own personal priority, but to me, ISO 6400+ is a novelty. Lower ISO is always going to be better than higher for any sensor - that's why I use fast glass and off-camera strobe.
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Looks like a Monet. Come take a look at https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/114465...ucks-myth.html for comparison with another modern cropper.
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I actually like ISO 25600 on the K-r

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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
I actually like ISO 25600 on the K-r
I can't wait to see some RAW samples
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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
I actually like ISO 25600 on the K-r
Asahiflex, is that a 100% crop from the K-r? If so, I would say it trounces the D7000!
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