Pentax K-5 Officially Announced

kuau · 09-20-2010, 08:59 AM

Does the K-5 support 14 bit Raw?

Seraf · 09-20-2010, 09:00 AM

Why do you complain about no #d Tracking, 3d tracking is just a marketing bullshit. It's a word for "we have a sophisticated af-c system". Moan about af-c when it'll get tested can you?

On the other hand i wonder when we will finally see the new sophisticated af tracking system by pentax, double cardslots and so on.. I know that i have been leaving with one slot ever since but it still would be nice.

illdefined · 09-20-2010, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

But what about IQ?

The D7000 could just as well have 1200 additional functions and still end-up in the dust due to image quality.

do you really expect considerable IQ differences from the same sensor?

civiletti · 09-20-2010, 09:00 AM

Now this is fun - a bunch of kids around the Xmas tree.

Winder · 09-20-2010, 09:01 AM

At least the K-5 shoots DNG files so it won't take long for RAW files to get posted and processed in LR3. We might see real K-5 reviews posted before some of the others just because there is no need to wait for RAW converter updates.

Urkeldaedalus · 09-20-2010, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Not me! I need to sell one soon

Better get on that

Incidentally, I think Pentax needs to outsource the proofreading of its spec sheets to this board. I bet we'd all do fine work for $5 an hour.

illdefined · 09-20-2010, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by kuau

Does the K-5 support 14 bit Raw?

yes. compromise being it can only carry 8 of those in its buffer at a time, or just over a sec of continuous shooting.

uchinakuri · 09-20-2010, 09:04 AM

you'd think that they could afford a tripod for the video camera in the Pentax Colorado offices...

macTak · 09-20-2010, 09:07 AM

Adam, in your K-5 specs you have the weights reversed (seems contagious today

)

But weight is yet another area of inconsistancy:
K-7 was 670g empty 750g with battery and card

K-5 according to Adam and to the English spec sheet is 660g empty and 740g w/ battery and card (somewhat surprising to drop 10g)

K-5 according to dpreivew is 670g empty

K-5 according to pentax-imaging (US official site) is 670g empty, 750g with battery and card

m8o · 09-20-2010, 09:08 AM

Not quoting K-9 but just generally as he's not responsible for the statement but was just re-quoting CNET, but just an FYI this came from one of K-9's posts...

Quote:

When Pentax briefed me on the K-5, its latest midrange dSLR--midrange for the market as a whole, but at the top of Pentax's food chain--its PR spokeswoman downplayed the announcement. "It's just an updated version of the k-7," was the gist of her pitch.

...And here I thought there was this thing called a 645D...

With marketing like that who needs enemies?

blende8 · 09-20-2010, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Blue

That is a theory. But theories need to be tested.

Ok, right, but it's in the official spec sheet, in German and also in English:
"ISO Auto: from 100 to 12800, ISO Extended: from 80 to 51200."

Same in the K7 sheet:
"ISO 100 - 3,200. Expandable to ISO 6,400"

kenyee · 09-20-2010, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by illdefined

with no confirmation sound like the K-7, it was obviously set to frame rate priority. who knows how many frames of that AF-C video are actually in focus.

Yep, that's the real test...AF-C 15 gazillion FPS is meaningless if 10% are in focus. AFAIK, none of the review sites have added this testing to their reviews and you'd think it'd be something they would

paene · 09-20-2010, 09:19 AM

hopefully extended exposure NR set to "OFF" really means OFF. also would be interesting to see if they've been able to address falconeye's shutter-induced blur report.

Blue · 09-20-2010, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by blende8

Ok, right, but it's in the official spec sheet, in German and also in English:
"ISO Auto: from 100 to 12800, ISO Extended: from 80 to 51200."

Same in the K7 sheet:
"ISO 100 - 3,200. Expandable to ISO 6,400"

The specs are the specs. I was referring to your theory on why Pentax lists an expandable ISO range. Your theory may be right at least in part. However, an alternative theory is that it is supposed to be usable on some level in the expanded mode otherwise they wouldn't expand it.

bikecoboss · 09-20-2010, 09:21 AM

My two cents:

If the biggest complaint you naysayers can come up with is a typo in the spec sheet I'd say Pentax has done a pretty good job here. It looks to me that Pentax has addressed every perceived shortcoming the K-7 had and produced a camera that can run with the best APS-C cameras from Nikon and Canon.

Combined with a WR 18-135, I don't think the K-5's competitors can touch it. Add some Limited primes and I know they can't.

Pete

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09-20-2010, 08:59 AM	#106
kuau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Park City, Utah Posts: 208	Does the K-5 support 14 bit Raw?

09-20-2010, 09:00 AM	#107
Seraf New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 17	Why do you complain about no #d Tracking, 3d tracking is just a marketing bullshit. It's a word for "we have a sophisticated af-c system". Moan about af-c when it'll get tested can you? On the other hand i wonder when we will finally see the new sophisticated af tracking system by pentax, double cardslots and so on.. I know that i have been leaving with one slot ever since but it still would be nice.

09-20-2010, 09:00 AM	#108
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by JohnBee But what about IQ? The D7000 could just as well have 1200 additional functions and still end-up in the dust due to image quality. do you really expect considerable IQ differences from the same sensor?

09-20-2010, 09:00 AM	#109
civiletti Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Oregon Photos: Albums Posts: 1,435	Now this is fun - a bunch of kids around the Xmas tree.

09-20-2010, 09:01 AM	#110
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	At least the K-5 shoots DNG files so it won't take long for RAW files to get posted and processed in LR3. We might see real K-5 reviews posted before some of the others just because there is no need to wait for RAW converter updates.

09-20-2010, 09:01 AM	#111
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	Originally posted by JohnBee Not me! I need to sell one soon Better get on that Incidentally, I think Pentax needs to outsource the proofreading of its spec sheets to this board. I bet we'd all do fine work for $5 an hour.

09-20-2010, 09:04 AM	#112
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by kuau Does the K-5 support 14 bit Raw? yes. compromise being it can only carry 8 of those in its buffer at a time, or just over a sec of continuous shooting.

09-20-2010, 09:04 AM	#113
uchinakuri Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 57	you'd think that they could afford a tripod for the video camera in the Pentax Colorado offices...

09-20-2010, 09:07 AM	#114
macTak Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 759	Adam, in your K-5 specs you have the weights reversed (seems contagious today ) But weight is yet another area of inconsistancy: K-7 was 670g empty 750g with battery and card K-5 according to Adam and to the English spec sheet is 660g empty and 740g w/ battery and card (somewhat surprising to drop 10g) K-5 according to dpreivew is 670g empty K-5 according to pentax-imaging (US official site) is 670g empty, 750g with battery and card

09-20-2010, 09:08 AM	#115
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	Not quoting K-9 but just generally as he's not responsible for the statement but was just re-quoting CNET, but just an FYI this came from one of K-9's posts... Quote: When Pentax briefed me on the K-5, its latest midrange dSLR--midrange for the market as a whole, but at the top of Pentax's food chain--its PR spokeswoman downplayed the announcement. "It's just an updated version of the k-7," was the gist of her pitch. ...And here I thought there was this thing called a 645D... With marketing like that who needs enemies?

09-20-2010, 09:16 AM	#116
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by Blue That is a theory. But theories need to be tested. Ok, right, but it's in the official spec sheet, in German and also in English: "ISO Auto: from 100 to 12800, ISO Extended: from 80 to 51200." Same in the K7 sheet: "ISO 100 - 3,200. Expandable to ISO 6,400"

09-20-2010, 09:19 AM	#117
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by illdefined with no confirmation sound like the K-7, it was obviously set to frame rate priority. who knows how many frames of that AF-C video are actually in focus. Yep, that's the real test...AF-C 15 gazillion FPS is meaningless if 10% are in focus. AFAIK, none of the review sites have added this testing to their reviews and you'd think it'd be something they would

09-20-2010, 09:19 AM	#118
paene New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kingston ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 14	hopefully extended exposure NR set to "OFF" really means OFF. also would be interesting to see if they've been able to address falconeye's shutter-induced blur report.

09-20-2010, 09:21 AM	#119
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by blende8 Ok, right, but it's in the official spec sheet, in German and also in English: "ISO Auto: from 100 to 12800, ISO Extended: from 80 to 51200." Same in the K7 sheet: "ISO 100 - 3,200. Expandable to ISO 6,400" The specs are the specs. I was referring to your theory on why Pentax lists an expandable ISO range. Your theory may be right at least in part. However, an alternative theory is that it is supposed to be usable on some level in the expanded mode otherwise they wouldn't expand it.

09-20-2010, 09:21 AM	#120
bikecoboss Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pemberton BC Posts: 238	My two cents: If the biggest complaint you naysayers can come up with is a typo in the spec sheet I'd say Pentax has done a pretty good job here. It looks to me that Pentax has addressed every perceived shortcoming the K-7 had and produced a camera that can run with the best APS-C cameras from Nikon and Canon. Combined with a WR 18-135, I don't think the K-5's competitors can touch it. Add some Limited primes and I know they can't. Pete