K-5 and pricing the market

JohnBee · 09-21-2010, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

- at least at yodobashi.com

In Sweeden, the K-5 is actually cheaper than the D7000...

Gimbal · 09-21-2010, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

In Sweeden, the K-5 is actually cheaper than the D7000...

Where?

These are the prices I found (from known sellers)

Nikon d7000 10990 sek. (cyberphoto)
Pentax k-5 11995 sek. (scandinavianphoto)

JohnBee · 09-21-2010, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by Gimbal

Where?

These are the prices I found (from known sellers)

Nikon d7000 10990 sek. (cyberphoto)
Pentax k-5 11995 sek. (scandinavianphoto)

ScandinavianPhoto's website: www.scandinavianphoto.se

Also CaNiPen a well known Finnish store sells the D7000 and K5 at exactly same price: 1149 Eur

hut234 · 09-21-2010, 05:05 AM

Well, one effect this is DEFINITELY going to have, on the US market, is that none of us who are nearly certain to get one soon will go for it while it's listed at $1,600, because it's fairly clear it will drop a few hundred in short order. So there might be quite a false market sense that it's not a successful release. Even Amazon's guarantee only counts if it drops before it ships out to you. I know that before these reports on other countries' pricings came out I was resigned to paying $1,600 (it's a worthwhile upgrade from my K10D), but now...I wait, because it's looking to be officially less sooner than a response to Nikon would have been.

k54 · 09-21-2010, 05:18 AM

K-5 very expensive. I think the D-7000 is more ideal upgrade from my K-x.
I think I'm going back to Nikon.....

JohnBee · 09-21-2010, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by k54

K-5 very expensive. I think the D-7000 is more ideal upgrade from my K-x.
I think I'm going back to Nikon.....

There's nothing wrong with Nikon tbh.
They have a very good community also: Nikonians :: The Nikon User Community

Good luck and have fun!

mad dog · 09-26-2010, 04:20 AM

Currently we are seeing K-5 prices listed at the maximum suggested retail price for pre-order, i.e. Amazon.com. Few people ever pay suggested retail unless they have money to burn and they want to be the first with the latest. My guess, probably around January 2011 we'll see K-5 prices selling at approximately 20% over for what K-7 prices are at the moment. Currently a K-7 body can be bought on line for about 800 clams thus the K-5 body will be selling for around a grand after January. I could be wrong but this seems to be the trend every year. I was all set to buy a K-7 but will now wait for the K-5. The K-5 should have no noise issues at high ISOs as the K-7 tends to have.

Rupert · 09-26-2010, 12:52 PM

I have compared the features of the D7000 and K5 and find the K5 is more to my liking, but I have a vested interest in some of those features that might be meaningless to new buyers. Time will tell if a Kia priced 25% more than a Ford with similar features will beat out the Ford...but I would be willing to place my bet on the Ford right now. In particular if Kia couldn't even come up with any representatives to answer the many questions their announcement failed to address....and they had already noted they would like to get out of the auto business.

Pentax/Hoya had better find a buyer for Pentax, and quickly, as they have stated they desire, or soon end up with nothing to sell. Their Marketing strategy is absolutely pathetic. An apparent winner in the K5, and a botched announcement and non-competitive pricing....a sure way to succeed at failure. Or as they say, snatching failure from the hands of victory......how often do we see that, and it is always disappointing, isn't it?
Best Regards!

Graham67 · 09-26-2010, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Rupert

I have compared the features of the D7000 and K5 and find the K5 is more to my liking, but I have a vested interest in some of those features that might be meaningless to new buyers. Time will tell if a Kia priced 25% more than a Ford with similar features will beat out the Ford...but I would be willing to place my bet on the Ford right now. In particular if Kia couldn't even come up with any representatives to answer the many questions their announcement failed to address....and they had already noted they would like to get out of the auto business.

Pentax/Hoya had better find a buyer for Pentax, and quickly, as they have stated they desire, or soon end up with nothing to sell. Their Marketing strategy is absolutely pathetic. An apparent winner in the K5, and a botched announcement and non-competitive pricing....a sure way to succeed at failure. Or as they say, snatching failure from the hands of victory......how often do we see that, and it is always disappointing, isn't it?
Best Regards!

Totally agree.

I'm going to shoot my dog in protest.
That'll tell 'em.

Rupert · 09-26-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Graham67

Totally agree.

I'm going to shoot my dog in protest.
That'll tell 'em.

Wow! I love Doggies, and sure didn't mean to cause one harm with my post! Could I offer up old Mr Kitty instead, he is old and he is my wife's cat...and never has liked me very much.....

Doing what he likes to do best.....he knows I love my Squirrels... be sure you take good aim, he is a slippery critter.

er1kksen · 09-26-2010, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Rupert

Pentax/Hoya had better find a buyer for Pentax, and quickly, as they have stated they desire, or soon end up with nothing to sell. Their Marketing strategy is absolutely pathetic. An apparent winner in the K5, and a botched announcement and non-competitive pricing....a sure way to succeed at failure. Or as they say, snatching failure from the hands of victory......how often do we see that, and it is always disappointing, isn't it?
Best Regards!

I think that's a bit overboard. You realize that in Japan and France, Pentax's largest markets by far, the pricing is actually as competitive as it can get?

Most stuff I've heard about Hoya selling Pentax has been unnofficial and unsubstantiated. I'm not expecting it to happen soon. I am expecting Pentax to keep getting stronger and stronger as a brand, just as they have been.

melander · 09-26-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Gimbal

Where?

These are the prices I found (from known sellers)

Nikon d7000 10990 sek. (cyberphoto)
Pentax k-5 11995 sek. (scandinavianphoto)

CyberPhoto - Digitalkameror, videokameror och fototillbehör. Personlig service på nätet!

10990:- for the k-5, if you order before the 30th

Gimbal · 09-26-2010, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by melander

CyberPhoto - Digitalkameror, videokameror och fototillbehör. Personlig service på nätet!

10990:- for the k-5, if you order before the 30th

Yes I have seen it to and it is tempting, but I will wait until the reviews and tests are done. Is shutter blur fixed? Final word on DFS?

elho_cid · 09-26-2010, 01:52 PM

Shutter blur can only be fixed by removing the shutter. Which is not yet realistic with current technology.

happygui · 09-26-2010, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by atomiccow

The K-5 doesn't have a full mag body either. It has a plastic rear panel just like the K-7.

Besides the OP isn't talking about specs, he's asking why in the US market the K-5 is significantly more costly than the competition while in the UK it is not. My only guess is that Pentax has a greater market share in the US than the UK which I find surprising.

what I heard is totally opposite. Somebody told me that why the price of K5 is so high in North America is because Hoya doesn't care about the market here. They dont even bother because they dont have much market share anyway. I am not sure if this is true. I only think it is WRONG.

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09-21-2010, 03:49 AM	#61
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by gazonk - at least at yodobashi.com In Sweeden, the K-5 is actually cheaper than the D7000...

09-21-2010, 04:25 AM	#62
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by JohnBee In Sweeden, the K-5 is actually cheaper than the D7000... Where? These are the prices I found (from known sellers) Nikon d7000 10990 sek. (cyberphoto) Pentax k-5 11995 sek. (scandinavianphoto)

09-21-2010, 04:55 AM	#63
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by Gimbal Where? These are the prices I found (from known sellers) Nikon d7000 10990 sek. (cyberphoto) Pentax k-5 11995 sek. (scandinavianphoto) ScandinavianPhoto's website: www.scandinavianphoto.se Also CaNiPen a well known Finnish store sells the D7000 and K5 at exactly same price: 1149 Eur

09-21-2010, 05:05 AM	#64
hut234 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 116	Well, one effect this is DEFINITELY going to have, on the US market, is that none of us who are nearly certain to get one soon will go for it while it's listed at $1,600, because it's fairly clear it will drop a few hundred in short order. So there might be quite a false market sense that it's not a successful release. Even Amazon's guarantee only counts if it drops before it ships out to you. I know that before these reports on other countries' pricings came out I was resigned to paying $1,600 (it's a worthwhile upgrade from my K10D), but now...I wait, because it's looking to be officially less sooner than a response to Nikon would have been.

09-21-2010, 05:18 AM	#65
k54 Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 77	K-5 very expensive. I think the D-7000 is more ideal upgrade from my K-x. I think I'm going back to Nikon.....

09-21-2010, 05:28 AM	#66
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by k54 K-5 very expensive. I think the D-7000 is more ideal upgrade from my K-x. I think I'm going back to Nikon..... There's nothing wrong with Nikon tbh. They have a very good community also: Nikonians :: The Nikon User Community Good luck and have fun!

09-26-2010, 04:20 AM	#67
mad dog New Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spencer, NY Posts: 1	Currently we are seeing K-5 prices listed at the maximum suggested retail price for pre-order, i.e. Amazon.com. Few people ever pay suggested retail unless they have money to burn and they want to be the first with the latest. My guess, probably around January 2011 we'll see K-5 prices selling at approximately 20% over for what K-7 prices are at the moment. Currently a K-7 body can be bought on line for about 800 clams thus the K-5 body will be selling for around a grand after January. I could be wrong but this seems to be the trend every year. I was all set to buy a K-7 but will now wait for the K-5. The K-5 should have no noise issues at high ISOs as the K-7 tends to have.

09-26-2010, 12:52 PM	#68
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	I have compared the features of the D7000 and K5 and find the K5 is more to my liking, but I have a vested interest in some of those features that might be meaningless to new buyers. Time will tell if a Kia priced 25% more than a Ford with similar features will beat out the Ford...but I would be willing to place my bet on the Ford right now. In particular if Kia couldn't even come up with any representatives to answer the many questions their announcement failed to address....and they had already noted they would like to get out of the auto business. Pentax/Hoya had better find a buyer for Pentax, and quickly, as they have stated they desire, or soon end up with nothing to sell. Their Marketing strategy is absolutely pathetic. An apparent winner in the K5, and a botched announcement and non-competitive pricing....a sure way to succeed at failure. Or as they say, snatching failure from the hands of victory......how often do we see that, and it is always disappointing, isn't it? Best Regards!

09-26-2010, 12:57 PM	#69
Graham67 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Leicester, England Photos: Gallery Posts: 89	Originally posted by Rupert I have compared the features of the D7000 and K5 and find the K5 is more to my liking, but I have a vested interest in some of those features that might be meaningless to new buyers. Time will tell if a Kia priced 25% more than a Ford with similar features will beat out the Ford...but I would be willing to place my bet on the Ford right now. In particular if Kia couldn't even come up with any representatives to answer the many questions their announcement failed to address....and they had already noted they would like to get out of the auto business. Pentax/Hoya had better find a buyer for Pentax, and quickly, as they have stated they desire, or soon end up with nothing to sell. Their Marketing strategy is absolutely pathetic. An apparent winner in the K5, and a botched announcement and non-competitive pricing....a sure way to succeed at failure. Or as they say, snatching failure from the hands of victory......how often do we see that, and it is always disappointing, isn't it? Best Regards! Totally agree. I'm going to shoot my dog in protest. That'll tell 'em.

09-26-2010, 01:22 PM	#70
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Originally posted by Graham67 Totally agree. I'm going to shoot my dog in protest. That'll tell 'em. Wow! I love Doggies, and sure didn't mean to cause one harm with my post! Could I offer up old Mr Kitty instead, he is old and he is my wife's cat...and never has liked me very much..... Doing what he likes to do best.....he knows I love my Squirrels... be sure you take good aim, he is a slippery critter.

09-26-2010, 01:33 PM	#71
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rupert Pentax/Hoya had better find a buyer for Pentax, and quickly, as they have stated they desire, or soon end up with nothing to sell. Their Marketing strategy is absolutely pathetic. An apparent winner in the K5, and a botched announcement and non-competitive pricing....a sure way to succeed at failure. Or as they say, snatching failure from the hands of victory......how often do we see that, and it is always disappointing, isn't it? Best Regards! I think that's a bit overboard. You realize that in Japan and France, Pentax's largest markets by far, the pricing is actually as competitive as it can get? Most stuff I've heard about Hoya selling Pentax has been unnofficial and unsubstantiated. I'm not expecting it to happen soon. I am expecting Pentax to keep getting stronger and stronger as a brand, just as they have been.

09-26-2010, 01:39 PM	#72
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	Originally posted by Gimbal Where? These are the prices I found (from known sellers) Nikon d7000 10990 sek. (cyberphoto) Pentax k-5 11995 sek. (scandinavianphoto) CyberPhoto - Digitalkameror, videokameror och fototillbehör. Personlig service på nätet! 10990:- for the k-5, if you order before the 30th

09-26-2010, 01:45 PM	#73
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by melander CyberPhoto - Digitalkameror, videokameror och fototillbehör. Personlig service på nätet! 10990:- for the k-5, if you order before the 30th Yes I have seen it to and it is tempting, but I will wait until the reviews and tests are done. Is shutter blur fixed? Final word on DFS?

09-26-2010, 01:52 PM	#74
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Shutter blur can only be fixed by removing the shutter. Which is not yet realistic with current technology.

09-26-2010, 02:26 PM	#75
happygui Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: OHIO Posts: 211	Originally posted by atomiccow The K-5 doesn't have a full mag body either. It has a plastic rear panel just like the K-7. Besides the OP isn't talking about specs, he's asking why in the US market the K-5 is significantly more costly than the competition while in the UK it is not. My only guess is that Pentax has a greater market share in the US than the UK which I find surprising. what I heard is totally opposite. Somebody told me that why the price of K5 is so high in North America is because Hoya doesn't care about the market here. They dont even bother because they dont have much market share anyway. I am not sure if this is true. I only think it is WRONG.