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kales · 09-22-2010, 04:34 AM

A news about Aptina CMOS sensor came out from DPR says Aptina released a 16MP and a 14MP APS-C CMOS sensor, planned production time is first quarter 2011.
link:
Aptina announces CMOS sensors for DSLRs and compacts: Digital Photography Review

Whom will they mass produce for?? Maybe I am stupid but maybe Pentax?
Use a different sensor could be a good reason for selling higher than D70000.

stormcloud · 09-22-2010, 04:42 AM

its begining sampling in october where as k5 should be in the shops at the same time so i dont think the k5 and kr can be using these chips

AngryCorgi · 09-22-2010, 04:50 AM

And the Aptina sensor can output 1080/30P. Why would Pentax limit their sensor to only 1080/25P (PAL) when they could give an NTSC option as well for US customers?

I have no idea who the Aptina's "customers" are...

falconeye · 09-22-2010, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by kales

A news about Aptina CMOS sensor came out from DPR says Aptina released a 16MP and a 14MP APS-C CMOS sensor, planned production time is first quarter 2011.
link:
Aptina announces CMOS sensors for DSLRs and compacts: Digital Photography Review

Whom will they mass produce for?? Maybe I am stupid but maybe Pentax?
Use a different sensor could be a good reason for selling higher than D70000.

It's an interesting sensor.

But it can't be in the K-5 for three reasons:

Production starts 2011, K-5 starts shipping in October 2010.
The chip photo doesn't match that shown for the K-5
No mention of integrated A/D-converters. Pentax explicitely mentions to rely on that technology.

AngryCorgi · 09-22-2010, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

It's an interesting sensor.

But it can't be in the K-5 for three reasons:

Production starts 2011, K-5 starts shipping in October 2010.
The chip photo doesn't match that shown for the K-5
No mention of integrated A/D-converters. Pentax explicitely mentions to rely on that technology.

Sony uses a unique "Column-Parallel A/D Conversion Technique" for its EXMORs that has an independent A/D converter for each column on the sensor. That must be the "integrated" reference they make.

RMabo · 09-22-2010, 05:38 AM

Not used by Pentax, at least not yet.
In the future, who knows?
If those sensors are good enough then Pentax may use them. They don't have to use Sony, they use the best sensor they can find.

falconeye · 09-22-2010, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by AngryCorgi

Sony uses a unique "Column-Parallel A/D Conversion Technique" for its EXMORs that has an independent A/D converter for each column on the sensor. That must be the "integrated" reference they make.

Actually, Pentax said no external what I translated into internal. But that wasn't my point. My point was that I found no reference to embedded converters in the Aptina release.

er1kksen · 09-22-2010, 06:53 AM

The D7000 arrives in October as well, so even though Nikon has been hush-hush about sensor sources lately and supposedly seeking to have their own designs manufactured by another company (like they did in the D3) we won't be seeing the Aptina in that one either.

I've never even heard of Aptina. I hope we get to see how this performs in some camera, someday.

cbaytan · 09-22-2010, 07:01 AM

Pentax will definitely evaluate the sensor, they say it's aimed to mirrorless cameras.

Catalana · 09-26-2010, 11:34 PM

Interesting video of circuit design and noise comparison in image...FWIW
Image Sensors World: Aptina Enters DSLR World with 16MP APS-C Sensor

bobmaxja · 09-27-2010, 04:09 AM

This is an interesting comments

Quote:

TSR estimates CMOS image sensor shipments for the DSLR market to be 12.5 million in 2013, up from 4 million in 2007

jogiba · 11-19-2010, 01:24 PM

http://www.aptina.com/products/technology/aptina_dr-pix.jsp

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GgX0ZSOzdk[/YT]

Abstract · 11-19-2010, 06:54 PM

So wait are these sensors better then the K-5's?

glanglois · 11-20-2010, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Abstract

So wait are these sensors better then the K-5's?

Hard to tell for two reasons:

#1. Not in production, never mind tested in-camera.

#2. Not clear what "better" means.

I'm curious about the company's current customers and the models the current sensors are found in. But not curious enough to spend more than the five minutes I did with Google finding nothing but press releases.

jogiba · 11-22-2010, 06:37 AM

I think it would work great in a Pentax mirrorless APS-C camera like the Sony NEX.
k-rumors | Blog | (K4) Pentax mirrorless camera to be announced in February 2011!

09-22-2010, 05:05 AM	#4
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by kales A news about Aptina CMOS sensor came out from DPR says Aptina released a 16MP and a 14MP APS-C CMOS sensor, planned production time is first quarter 2011. link: Aptina announces CMOS sensors for DSLRs and compacts: Digital Photography Review Whom will they mass produce for?? Maybe I am stupid but maybe Pentax? Use a different sensor could be a good reason for selling higher than D70000. It's an interesting sensor. But it can't be in the K-5 for three reasons: Production starts 2011, K-5 starts shipping in October 2010. The chip photo doesn't match that shown for the K-5 No mention of integrated A/D-converters. Pentax explicitely mentions to rely on that technology.

09-22-2010, 05:34 AM	#5
AngryCorgi Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northern VA Posts: 73	Originally posted by falconeye It's an interesting sensor. But it can't be in the K-5 for three reasons: Production starts 2011, K-5 starts shipping in October 2010. The chip photo doesn't match that shown for the K-5 No mention of integrated A/D-converters. Pentax explicitely mentions to rely on that technology. Sony uses a unique "Column-Parallel A/D Conversion Technique" for its EXMORs that has an independent A/D converter for each column on the sensor. That must be the "integrated" reference they make.

11-19-2010, 01:24 PM	#12
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Aptina High Dynamic Range Sensors http://www.aptina.com/products/technology/aptina_dr-pix.jsp [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GgX0ZSOzdk[/YT]

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09-22-2010, 04:34 AM	#1
kales Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pluto Posts: 75	K-5 uses Aptina sensor rather than Sony?? A news about Aptina CMOS sensor came out from DPR says Aptina released a 16MP and a 14MP APS-C CMOS sensor, planned production time is first quarter 2011. link: Aptina announces CMOS sensors for DSLRs and compacts: Digital Photography Review Whom will they mass produce for?? Maybe I am stupid but maybe Pentax? Use a different sensor could be a good reason for selling higher than D70000.

09-22-2010, 04:42 AM	#2
stormcloud Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 232	its begining sampling in october where as k5 should be in the shops at the same time so i dont think the k5 and kr can be using these chips

09-22-2010, 04:50 AM	#3
AngryCorgi Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northern VA Posts: 73	And the Aptina sensor can output 1080/30P. Why would Pentax limit their sensor to only 1080/25P (PAL) when they could give an NTSC option as well for US customers? I have no idea who the Aptina's "customers" are...

09-22-2010, 05:38 AM	#6
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Not used by Pentax, at least not yet. In the future, who knows? If those sensors are good enough then Pentax may use them. They don't have to use Sony, they use the best sensor they can find.

09-22-2010, 05:51 AM	#7
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by AngryCorgi Sony uses a unique "Column-Parallel A/D Conversion Technique" for its EXMORs that has an independent A/D converter for each column on the sensor. That must be the "integrated" reference they make. Actually, Pentax said no external what I translated into internal. But that wasn't my point. My point was that I found no reference to embedded converters in the Aptina release.

09-22-2010, 06:53 AM	#8
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	The D7000 arrives in October as well, so even though Nikon has been hush-hush about sensor sources lately and supposedly seeking to have their own designs manufactured by another company (like they did in the D3) we won't be seeing the Aptina in that one either. I've never even heard of Aptina. I hope we get to see how this performs in some camera, someday.

09-22-2010, 07:01 AM	#9
cbaytan Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trabzon/Turkey Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,010	Pentax will definitely evaluate the sensor, they say it's aimed to mirrorless cameras.

09-26-2010, 11:34 PM	#10
Catalana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 190	Interesting video of circuit design and noise comparison in image...FWIW Image Sensors World: Aptina Enters DSLR World with 16MP APS-C Sensor

09-27-2010, 04:09 AM	#11
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	This is an interesting comments Quote: TSR estimates CMOS image sensor shipments for the DSLR market to be 12.5 million in 2013, up from 4 million in 2007

11-19-2010, 06:54 PM	#13
Abstract Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 388	So wait are these sensors better then the K-5's?

11-20-2010, 10:44 AM	#14
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by Abstract So wait are these sensors better then the K-5's? Hard to tell for two reasons: #1. Not in production, never mind tested in-camera. #2. Not clear what "better" means. I'm curious about the company's current customers and the models the current sensors are found in. But not curious enough to spend more than the five minutes I did with Google finding nothing but press releases.

11-22-2010, 06:37 AM	#15
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	I think it would work great in a Pentax mirrorless APS-C camera like the Sony NEX. k-rumors \| Blog \| (K4) Pentax mirrorless camera to be announced in February 2011!

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