Pentax: give Benjikan a K5 and 645D

Blue · 09-27-2010, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

I admire Benjamin's work and his talent and creativity. I seriously think that he is a real artist.
But Pentax probably doesn't want to show that professionals are using their cameras. They are very amateur oriented brand.
Even 645D is designed as a hobbyist camera (but expensive).

Who do you think used the 645 film bodies?

benjikan · 09-27-2010, 01:28 PM

A few more images and a few with one of my faves 70 Ltd...These examples both for VOGUE...Oh shot with the K20D.

benjikan · 09-27-2010, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Blue

Who do you think used the 645 film bodies?

I used to rent the 645 on occasion, but owned a couple of Pentax 67 bodies. Loved them. Only drawback, couldn't shoot Polaroids with them. Did take Pola Backs.

Blue · 09-27-2010, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

I used to rent the 645 on occasion, but owned a couple of Pentax 67 bodies. Loved them. Only drawback, couldn't shoot Polaroids with them. Did take Pola Backs.

I bet the 645D as potential has a rental item. There are still a few outfits that rent the 645 and 6x7 gear.

Wololo · 09-27-2010, 02:14 PM

@Benjikan

I don't know you, so please excuse me, if I say something what is wrong. I have to work very hard for my passion - the photography. Finally, when I am able to buy new equipment, it's an amazing feeling. Not to compare with the feeling, when someone would give me equipment as a gift.

A few time ago, I read about a photographer who build his own cams and his own lenses. He is an alcoholic, have no wife, a simple apartment but a passion - the photography. His pictures aren't glamour, but they are worth several thousand dollars.

He became famous because he went his own way. Maybe you became famous because you did the same? Maybe you became famous, because you used PENTAX primary and not other brands like all other professionals nowadays? Maybe Pentax made you famous, so it's only fair that you make Pentax famous.

I think it's the wrong way to publish such things in an internet forum. I have read, that Pentax offered you a discount for new equipment. Is that really not enough...

Clicker · 09-27-2010, 03:12 PM

Dam, Ben beautiful lighting.

benjikan · 09-27-2010, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Wololo

@Benjikan

I don't know you, so please excuse me, if I say something what is wrong. I have to work very hard for my passion - the photography. Finally, when I am able to buy new equipment, it's an amazing feeling. Not to compare with the feeling, when someone would give me equipment as a gift.

A few time ago, I read about a photographer who build his own cams and his own lenses. He is an alcoholic, have no wife, a simple apartment but a passion - the photography. His pictures aren't glamour, but they are worth several thousand dollars.

He became famous because he went his own way. Maybe you became famous because you did the same? Maybe you became famous, because you used PENTAX primary and not other brands like all other professionals nowadays? Maybe Pentax made you famous, so it's only fair that you make Pentax famous.

I think it's the wrong way to publish such things in an internet forum. I have read, that Pentax offered you a discount for new equipment. Is that really not enough...

Absolutely...

Oh, I love photography as well.

Ben

Wololo · 09-27-2010, 04:27 PM

@ben

thanks for listening without flaming.
btw. great photos!

dycz · 09-27-2010, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

Don't worry about it, the K20D has an excellent sensor and especially at 100 iso. Gets the job done... Did these with the DA*16-50 f2.8 (with the new replaced by Pentax AF motor) and my Favorite DA 12-24 f4.0 lens.

WOW (again).........

Arpe · 09-27-2010, 04:55 PM

Well I'm glad. I think it means they're going to sponsor me!

It's not only camera manufacturers that do this kind of thing for marketing, all the best sports stars never pay for their boots, or bats, or shoes, or helmets or whatever, so that wannabes like us see them with that gear and think, "Wow, that stuff must be good", as testified by a few on here already admitting Ben's influence helped sway them to Pentax. It must be marketing 101 surely?

Daemos · 09-28-2010, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Don't worry about it, the K20D has an excellent sensor and especially at 100 iso. Gets the job done... Did these with the DA*16-50 f2.8 (with the new replaced by Pentax AF motor) and my Favorite DA 12-24 f4.0 lens.

Can you elaborate on the new replaced pentax af motor? Was there a revision of the DA* 16-50 that has a new af motor?

Tommy · 09-28-2010, 12:49 AM

Wow, great pictures as always, Ben!

You must have a great camera!

You can really tell from these images that it is all about the gear. The SMC (Super Model Coating) on those lenses sure does it's job.

Seriously.....I love how you work with the light. I bet I would enjoy your work even if you had ugly models!

/Tommy

benjikan · 09-28-2010, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Daemos

Can you elaborate on the new replaced pentax af motor? Was there a revision of the DA* 16-50 that has a new af motor?

There were several problems with earlier DA* AF motor versions. Pentax replaced the original motors of my 16-50 & 50-135 to the newer updated versions.

Leaf Fan · 09-28-2010, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Thanks for the effort, truly appreciated. Unfortunately, it won't work for Pentax. They refused to offer me the K5. They only offered me a Pro discount.

Best
Ben

What's the difference between retail and "pro discount" price?

kytra · 09-28-2010, 07:24 AM

+1 to original OP

Shame that Pentax does not cultivate the very few pros with high exposure that are using Pentax currently.

The potential benefits could greatly offset the cost. OK, nobody can force them, but it's a pity.

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benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	A few more images and a few with one of my faves 70 Ltd...These examples both for VOGUE...Oh shot with the K20D. Attached Images

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09-27-2010, 01:27 PM	#76
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by elho_cid I admire Benjamin's work and his talent and creativity. I seriously think that he is a real artist. But Pentax probably doesn't want to show that professionals are using their cameras. They are very amateur oriented brand. Even 645D is designed as a hobbyist camera (but expensive). Who do you think used the 645 film bodies?

09-27-2010, 01:29 PM	#78
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by Blue Who do you think used the 645 film bodies? I used to rent the 645 on occasion, but owned a couple of Pentax 67 bodies. Loved them. Only drawback, couldn't shoot Polaroids with them. Did take Pola Backs.

09-27-2010, 01:48 PM	#79
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by benjikan I used to rent the 645 on occasion, but owned a couple of Pentax 67 bodies. Loved them. Only drawback, couldn't shoot Polaroids with them. Did take Pola Backs. I bet the 645D as potential has a rental item. There are still a few outfits that rent the 645 and 6x7 gear.

09-27-2010, 02:14 PM	#80
Wololo Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22	@Benjikan I don't know you, so please excuse me, if I say something what is wrong. I have to work very hard for my passion - the photography. Finally, when I am able to buy new equipment, it's an amazing feeling. Not to compare with the feeling, when someone would give me equipment as a gift. A few time ago, I read about a photographer who build his own cams and his own lenses. He is an alcoholic, have no wife, a simple apartment but a passion - the photography. His pictures aren't glamour, but they are worth several thousand dollars. He became famous because he went his own way. Maybe you became famous because you did the same? Maybe you became famous, because you used PENTAX primary and not other brands like all other professionals nowadays? Maybe Pentax made you famous, so it's only fair that you make Pentax famous. I think it's the wrong way to publish such things in an internet forum. I have read, that Pentax offered you a discount for new equipment. Is that really not enough...

09-27-2010, 03:12 PM	#81
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Dam, Ben beautiful lighting.

09-27-2010, 04:11 PM	#82
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by Wololo @Benjikan I don't know you, so please excuse me, if I say something what is wrong. I have to work very hard for my passion - the photography. Finally, when I am able to buy new equipment, it's an amazing feeling. Not to compare with the feeling, when someone would give me equipment as a gift. A few time ago, I read about a photographer who build his own cams and his own lenses. He is an alcoholic, have no wife, a simple apartment but a passion - the photography. His pictures aren't glamour, but they are worth several thousand dollars. He became famous because he went his own way. Maybe you became famous because you did the same? Maybe you became famous, because you used PENTAX primary and not other brands like all other professionals nowadays? Maybe Pentax made you famous, so it's only fair that you make Pentax famous. I think it's the wrong way to publish such things in an internet forum. I have read, that Pentax offered you a discount for new equipment. Is that really not enough... Absolutely... Oh, I love photography as well. Ben

09-27-2010, 04:27 PM	#83
Wololo Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22	@ben thanks for listening without flaming. btw. great photos!

09-27-2010, 04:39 PM	#84
dycz Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 180	Originally posted by benjikan Don't worry about it, the K20D has an excellent sensor and especially at 100 iso. Gets the job done... Did these with the DA*16-50 f2.8 (with the new replaced by Pentax AF motor) and my Favorite DA 12-24 f4.0 lens. WOW (again).........

09-27-2010, 04:55 PM	#85
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Well I'm glad. I think it means they're going to sponsor me! It's not only camera manufacturers that do this kind of thing for marketing, all the best sports stars never pay for their boots, or bats, or shoes, or helmets or whatever, so that wannabes like us see them with that gear and think, "Wow, that stuff must be good", as testified by a few on here already admitting Ben's influence helped sway them to Pentax. It must be marketing 101 surely?

09-28-2010, 12:09 AM	#86
Daemos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 106	Originally posted by benjikan Don't worry about it, the K20D has an excellent sensor and especially at 100 iso. Gets the job done... Did these with the DA16-50 f2.8 (with the new replaced by Pentax AF motor) and my Favorite DA 12-24 f4.0 lens. Can you elaborate on the new replaced pentax af motor? Was there a revision of the DA 16-50 that has a new af motor?

09-28-2010, 12:49 AM	#87
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 195	Wow, great pictures as always, Ben! You must have a great camera! You can really tell from these images that it is all about the gear. The SMC (Super Model Coating) on those lenses sure does it's job. Seriously.....I love how you work with the light. I bet I would enjoy your work even if you had ugly models! /Tommy

09-28-2010, 05:56 AM	#88
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by Daemos Can you elaborate on the new replaced pentax af motor? Was there a revision of the DA* 16-50 that has a new af motor? There were several problems with earlier DA* AF motor versions. Pentax replaced the original motors of my 16-50 & 50-135 to the newer updated versions.

09-28-2010, 07:14 AM	#89
Leaf Fan Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada eh! Photos: Gallery Posts: 673	Originally posted by benjikan Thanks for the effort, truly appreciated. Unfortunately, it won't work for Pentax. They refused to offer me the K5. They only offered me a Pro discount. Best Ben What's the difference between retail and "pro discount" price?

09-28-2010, 07:24 AM	#90
kytra Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bucharest Posts: 482	+1 to original OP Shame that Pentax does not cultivate the very few pros with high exposure that are using Pentax currently. The potential benefits could greatly offset the cost. OK, nobody can force them, but it's a pity.