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09-28-2010, 06:49 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by philbaum Quote
I was shocked to read the specs on the D7000 and find out that for exposure bracketing:

2 to 3 frames in 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1EV increments

That is not adequate for HDR software. Kx, KR, K10, K20, K7 and presumably the new K5 have exposure bracketing that will put that spec to shame. even the Kx and Kr will do 3 images at 3 EV increments. the K20, K7, and K5 will do 3 or 5 images at up to 2 EV steps.

In addition, the K20, K7 and K5 will also do mulitple image exposures in camera, very useful for water work and other applications.

Nikon missed an opportunity with what i think is some deliberate crippling.

I could be wrong when more complete specs are published, but so far it doesn't look good. I posted it here because so many comparisons are touting how good the D7000 is, well not in all areas i guess :-(

Thanks for the info

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HDR if done subtly - the viewer will never know

HDR & extreme HDR seems all the rage now especially with a lot of landscape users these days

High & extreme HDR for me is ugly - the arty lot love it though
I'm one of those guys that can't do the same photo type day after day. Most of the HDR i do is for subtle effects. But occasionally i get bored and want to knock one out of the extreme window. The last time, i did that, i submitted the image into the local club contest, and the judge, a retired photo journalist, picked it out as first place.

Does it really matter that folks do subtle or extreme HDR, I don't think so. If it makes a few people happy to work on specially treated images, and a few other people enjoy them, than fine by me.

I went to a Tamron lecture by a pro photog from Colorado. If you look at her gallery, its nice and very conservative landscapes, mostly. But in her lecture, she revealed that she will take 3 shots for an HDR, will use the normally exposed shot as one layer in photoshop, and then mix in 10% of an HDR version as another layer to add "a little more punch" to the image. I don't see many pros bragging that they use HDR, but I suspect its being used more than many people know.

Are Sepia images natural. I don't think so. All the new Sepia images are filtered unnaturally to give an aged photo look. Are straight photos, fillm and digital natural? Of course not, all the film and the sensors i know of have less than 1/2 the DR of the human eyeball.

Its all a cultural tradition of how photos "should" look.
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I read -- I think in dpreview-- a question about the +/- 1 EV, and Nikon said it was a mistake. Should be +/- 2 EV.

Can't find the original discussion, but here's a summation: Re: Hey Dpreview, how many EVs is the D7000 bracketing?: Nikon D90 - D40 / D5000 Forum: Digital Photography Review
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I read -- I think in dpreview-- a question about the +/- 1 EV, and Nikon said it was a mistake. Should be +/- 2 EV.

Can't find the original discussion, but here's a summation: Re: Hey Dpreview, how many EVs is the D7000 bracketing?: Nikon D90 - D40 / D5000 Forum: Digital Photography Review
Well, thats better than 1 EV. I think that improvement brings it up to the level of a Km. Kx had a 3 image +/- 3 ev.

But still, one needs 5 images at 2EV to compensate for the interior of a house with light coming in a window - rule of thumb.

For a $1200 camera, I expect the 5 image capability that K5 through K10 has always provided.

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Wrong Specs for Nikon D7000

Exposure bracketing
2 to 3 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 1 or 2 EV

@philbaum: you seem to have left off an important part of the spec. You should wait for the complete info before you trash this camera.

Exposure bracketing - 2 to 3 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 1 OR 2 EV

3 frames at +/- 2 EV is good enough for HDR unless you are one of those people who need like 9 exposures.
Exposure bracketing
2 to 3 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 1 or 2 EV


Exposure bracketing
2 to 3 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 1 or 2 EV

Specifications - Nikon D7000 | Nikon

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2 things:

I always use 5 exposures for HDR, and...

you do realize you responded to a 4-month old post, right?
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On the other hand it offers -

1. Manual video control
2. AF in video
3. FAR superior flash system

To be honest I rarely use bracketing and barely shoot HDR any more.
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Also add

4. 1/250 flash sync

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2-3 steps? Which steps lie between those two numbers, Christopher?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Boris Quote
I beg to differ, sir. If you're after serious HDR, it is most likely that your camera is mounted on a tripod
Wrong!

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and you're shooting some kind of a static scene, be it a land/city scape or studio still life.
and wrong again

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There will have to be performed some serious processing in order to cross-register the images as I doubt you can handhold your camera still enough.
Does three times wrong get you a prize?


Never heard of align_image_stack or any of the other programs out there that will automatically register any number of handheld shots?
Also oblivious to software that will remove any ghosting so you can shoot scenes with some dynamic in them?

Boy, am I glad I regularly do handheld 3 and 5 exposure brackets with my K20D to come up with

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Boy, why did we have to revive this thread???
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Boy, why did we have to revive this thread???
Ubuntu, I agree. rehashing 4 month old information is a waste of time for everyone. I've asked a modertor to lock it up so we can move on to current topics.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ubuntu_user Quote
Boy, why did we have to revive this thread???
That's a good question; but seems like good time to put it out of its misery.
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