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**Rondec** · 12-16-2010, 09:22 AM

Seems to me next year will be EVIL year for Pentax. No full frame till 2012, if then. Will be interesting to see how Hoya handles EVIL. Is there room for a in-camera motor and still make the camera smaller than the Kx?

The other thing is new lenses. The only thing left on the road map is a telephoto and maybe that will get taken care of this year. The other thing that could telegraph full frame would be some middle zoom, 24-80 f2.8 with real ring motors.

**NaClH2O** · 12-16-2010, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by infoomatic

don't worry, the MILC cam of Pentax will have a strong USP ;-) ... different and interesting features I think (although I am really not a fan of MILCs)

What the heck is a MILC? The only MILC I know of is the Milk Income Loss Contract. Somehow I doubt that's it.

NaCl(massive individual lenticular convocation)H2O

Supernaut · 12-16-2010, 02:29 PM

I still believe that a FF next year is possible. It's either that or a MILC. The fact that no higher grade lenses have been released the last two years (?) is to me a sign that Pentax are waiting for a expanded D-FA line covering FF or is happy with K-mount line as it is regarding pro grade and goes mirrorless.

Speaking of FF; isn't sony due to release a new FF soon? They need someone to share the sensor development cost if it's true that Nikon manufactures elsewhere

climit · 12-16-2010, 09:35 PM

In fact a FF EVIL at 36MP.

Originally posted by Billgscott

So when is the next show that we can start rumers about going to happen.

I hear a FF EVIL WR body will be launched.

Seriously though, what is the show schedule for 2011?

Bill

Billgscott · 12-17-2010, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Seems to me next year will be EVIL year for Pentax. No full frame till 2012, if then. Will be interesting to see how Hoya handles EVIL. Is there room for a in-camera motor and still make the camera smaller than the Kx?

The other thing is new lenses. The only thing left on the road map is a telephoto and maybe that will get taken care of this year. The other thing that could telegraph full frame would be some middle zoom, 24-80 f2.8 with real ring motors.

Don't know. I feel that for EVIL / MILC to work, a new lens range needs to be launched at the same time. At least for FF, there are already a lot of lenses out there already; Sigmas DG range for example, as well as Pentaxes DFA and FA lenses.

Bill

Billgscott · 12-17-2010, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by climit

In fact a FF EVIL at 36MP.

Dare to dream.

Billgscott · 12-17-2010, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by NaClH2O

What the heck is a MILC? The only MILC I know of is the Milk Income Loss Contract. Somehow I doubt that's it.

NaCl(massive individual lenticular convocation)H2O

I think it is Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera. I prefer EVIL.

Bill

calculator01 · 12-17-2010, 01:55 AM

I'm just going to ask for a DA* 8-600mm WR DC IF AL etc ...lens...

I'm less concerned about new camera bodies

gazonk · 12-17-2010, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by NaClH2O

What the heck is a MILC? The only MILC I know of is the Milk Income Loss Contract. Somehow I doubt that's it.

NaCl(massive individual lenticular convocation)H2O

Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera.

Much better than Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens, which is misleading for viewfinderless cameras.

mikemike · 12-20-2010, 09:24 PM

I remember a rumor that a new flash was in the offing for springtime. Has anyone heard anything regarding this? I am going to be in the market for a flash in the next 6 months and would prefer genuine pentax but it looks like the metz 58 is the best bet at the moment if the pentax 540 is flimsy and unreliable.

I would buy a well built (would WR be asking too much) to slot in above the 540.

aragondina · 12-28-2010, 09:12 AM

Pentax will have to get their poop together so they are ready for the upcoming K30d full frame that will be announced at CP+ 2011. Some of the things I would like to see is some more fast lens offerings. Things like a 28mm f1.4, or an 18mm f1.8. Maybe even an 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2 and a 24mm Tilt-shift!!!

Sadly though, with Sigma ending production of the long primes in PK mount, it's gonna be tough to sell Pentax as an outdoor camera. Let's face it, if Pentax really wants to be seen as an outdoor camera they need to produce some long primes like a 500mm f4 and an 800mm f5.6. A 500mm is a standard for wildlife photography. I have also always wondered how one can have a camera geared towards landscapes and the like and not have at least one tilt-shift being offered.

This just goes to show how incomplete the Pentax lineup is. I can understand Sigma or Tamron dropping Pentax support on many of their more expensive lenses as there isn't enough of a market for them to warrant making them.

thibs · 12-28-2010, 09:14 AM

Mouahahaha funny, really.

Singulariter · 12-28-2010, 01:05 PM

I know it's probably rubbish, but I would love to see a super wide with the same build as the 31/43/77. One can dream....

coorp · 12-28-2010, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Singulariter

I know it's probably rubbish, but I would love to see a super wide with the same build as the 31/43/77. One can dream....

15/4 limited ?

Pablom · 12-28-2010, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Jasvox

If they would only re-release an FA20/2.8 offspring.

you mean like the DA 14mm?

12-16-2010, 02:29 PM	#18
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Speculation time :) I still believe that a FF next year is possible. It's either that or a MILC. The fact that no higher grade lenses have been released the last two years (?) is to me a sign that Pentax are waiting for a expanded D-FA line covering FF or is happy with K-mount line as it is regarding pro grade and goes mirrorless. Speaking of FF; isn't sony due to release a new FF soon? They need someone to share the sensor development cost if it's true that Nikon manufactures elsewhere

12-28-2010, 01:05 PM	#28
Singulariter Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chicago IL Photos: Albums Posts: 43	FA Quality super wide prime plz I know it's probably rubbish, but I would love to see a super wide with the same build as the 31/43/77. One can dream....

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12-16-2010, 09:22 AM	#16
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,665	Seems to me next year will be EVIL year for Pentax. No full frame till 2012, if then. Will be interesting to see how Hoya handles EVIL. Is there room for a in-camera motor and still make the camera smaller than the Kx? The other thing is new lenses. The only thing left on the road map is a telephoto and maybe that will get taken care of this year. The other thing that could telegraph full frame would be some middle zoom, 24-80 f2.8 with real ring motors.

12-16-2010, 10:22 AM	#17
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Originally posted by infoomatic don't worry, the MILC cam of Pentax will have a strong USP ;-) ... different and interesting features I think (although I am really not a fan of MILCs) What the heck is a MILC? The only MILC I know of is the Milk Income Loss Contract. Somehow I doubt that's it. NaCl(massive individual lenticular convocation)H2O

12-16-2010, 09:35 PM	#19
climit Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kalamata Posts: 224	In fact a FF EVIL at 36MP. Originally posted by Billgscott So when is the next show that we can start rumers about going to happen. I hear a FF EVIL WR body will be launched. Seriously though, what is the show schedule for 2011? Bill

12-17-2010, 01:48 AM	#20
Billgscott Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: York Posts: 241 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rondec Seems to me next year will be EVIL year for Pentax. No full frame till 2012, if then. Will be interesting to see how Hoya handles EVIL. Is there room for a in-camera motor and still make the camera smaller than the Kx? The other thing is new lenses. The only thing left on the road map is a telephoto and maybe that will get taken care of this year. The other thing that could telegraph full frame would be some middle zoom, 24-80 f2.8 with real ring motors. Don't know. I feel that for EVIL / MILC to work, a new lens range needs to be launched at the same time. At least for FF, there are already a lot of lenses out there already; Sigmas DG range for example, as well as Pentaxes DFA and FA lenses. Bill

12-17-2010, 01:48 AM	#21
Billgscott Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: York Posts: 241 Original Poster	Originally posted by climit In fact a FF EVIL at 36MP. Dare to dream.

12-17-2010, 01:49 AM	#22
Billgscott Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: York Posts: 241 Original Poster	Originally posted by NaClH2O What the heck is a MILC? The only MILC I know of is the Milk Income Loss Contract. Somehow I doubt that's it. NaCl(massive individual lenticular convocation)H2O I think it is Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera. I prefer EVIL. Bill

12-17-2010, 01:55 AM	#23
calculator01 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 817	I'm just going to ask for a DA* 8-600mm WR DC IF AL etc ...lens... I'm less concerned about new camera bodies

12-17-2010, 02:25 PM	#24
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by NaClH2O What the heck is a MILC? The only MILC I know of is the Milk Income Loss Contract. Somehow I doubt that's it. NaCl(massive individual lenticular convocation)H2O Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera. Much better than Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens, which is misleading for viewfinderless cameras.

12-20-2010, 09:24 PM	#25
mikemike Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Orleans Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,053	I remember a rumor that a new flash was in the offing for springtime. Has anyone heard anything regarding this? I am going to be in the market for a flash in the next 6 months and would prefer genuine pentax but it looks like the metz 58 is the best bet at the moment if the pentax 540 is flimsy and unreliable. I would buy a well built (would WR be asking too much) to slot in above the 540.

12-28-2010, 09:12 AM	#26
aragondina Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 117	Pentax will have to get their poop together so they are ready for the upcoming K30d full frame that will be announced at CP+ 2011. Some of the things I would like to see is some more fast lens offerings. Things like a 28mm f1.4, or an 18mm f1.8. Maybe even an 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2 and a 24mm Tilt-shift!!! Sadly though, with Sigma ending production of the long primes in PK mount, it's gonna be tough to sell Pentax as an outdoor camera. Let's face it, if Pentax really wants to be seen as an outdoor camera they need to produce some long primes like a 500mm f4 and an 800mm f5.6. A 500mm is a standard for wildlife photography. I have also always wondered how one can have a camera geared towards landscapes and the like and not have at least one tilt-shift being offered. This just goes to show how incomplete the Pentax lineup is. I can understand Sigma or Tamron dropping Pentax support on many of their more expensive lenses as there isn't enough of a market for them to warrant making them.

12-28-2010, 09:14 AM	#27
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Mouahahaha funny, really.

12-28-2010, 02:18 PM	#29
coorp New Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Warsaw Posts: 3	Originally posted by Singulariter I know it's probably rubbish, but I would love to see a super wide with the same build as the 31/43/77. One can dream.... 15/4 limited ?

12-28-2010, 02:25 PM	#30
Pablom Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Usa Posts: 1,940	Originally posted by Jasvox If they would only re-release an FA20/2.8 offspring. you mean like the DA 14mm?

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