Pentax Files DA12-35mm f3.5-4.5 WR SDM Patent

TOUGEFC · 05-07-2011, 06:00 PM

I wish Pentax would bring out a DA*135mm f/1.8

There is no prime lens in the current production line between 100mm-200mm.

On APS-C, 135mm = 200mm FF. It makes sense for them to bring it out.

Loren E · 05-07-2011, 08:45 PM

DA* 135 F1.8 seems way too similar to DA* 50-135 F2.8 for a next lens when there are much more gaping holes to fill like a DA* 10-16 IMHO

TOUGEFC · 05-08-2011, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by Loren E

DA* 135 F1.8 seems way too similar to DA* 50-135 F2.8 for a next lens when there are much more gaping holes to fill like a DA* 10-16 IMHO

In what way is it way too similar?

Your same logic means that the DA*55 would be too similar as well.

Emacs · 05-09-2011, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by TOUGEFC

In what way is it way too similar?

Your same logic means that the DA*55 would be too similar as well.

Exactly. BTW zoom's rendering is still worse than one of good prime. And 135mm of 50-135 is its weakest point. The speed sometimes matters too.

DaveBlack · 05-09-2011, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by Emacs

Exactly. BTW zoom's rendering is still worse than one of good prime. And 135mm of 50-135 is its weakest point. The speed sometimes matters too.

There are so many lenses that I would love to see before the DA12-35 and the DA25-330.

A DA*135/1.8 would be welcome. It will be faster than the DA50-135 and better.

A DA*28 or 30 f1.4 ould be a nice weather resistant normal lens.

A DA*8-16 would be a good wide lens.

A DA*135-400 would be a good long wild-life lens.

The DA*10-16 and the DA*135-400 would pair up really well with the DA*16-50 and DA*50-135. Plus would give one focal lengths that are currently not available.

Dave

FullertonImages · 05-09-2011, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by DaveBlack

There are so many lenses that I would love to see before the DA12-35 and the DA25-330.

A DA*135/1.8 would be welcome. It will be faster than the DA50-135 and better.

A DA*28 or 30 f1.4 ould be a nice weather resistant normal lens.

A DA*8-16 would be a good wide lens.

A DA*135-400 would be a good long wild-life lens.

The DA*10-16 and the DA*135-400 would pair up really well with the DA*16-50 and DA*50-135. Plus would give one focal lengths that are currently not available.

Dave

+1,000,000 to the first three you mentioned. The 135-400 would be less appealing to me. I would much rather see a DA* 500mm f/4. I want one, I want one, I want one. 135/1.8 would be beautiful for shooting video or portraits. Yes please, Pentax.

DaveBlack · 05-09-2011, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by FullertonImages

+1,000,000 to the first three you mentioned. The 135-400 would be less appealing to me. I would much rather see a DA* 500mm f/4. I want one, I want one, I want one. 135/1.8 would be beautiful for shooting video or portraits. Yes please, Pentax.

I would love to have both a DA*135-400 for its flexibility and the DA*500 for the extra reach. Then again I enjoy having both the DA*60-250 and the DA*300.

**rparmar** · 05-09-2011, 04:46 PM

But the number one lens we need, of course, without a doubt, is a fast normal. 28mm f/2 or better. WR or not, who cares, it's a fast prime.

Balog · 05-09-2011, 04:48 PM

WR 8-16 would be amazing.

FullertonImages · 05-09-2011, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by DaveBlack

I would love to have both a DA*135-400 for its flexibility and the DA*500 for the extra reach. Then again I enjoy having both the DA*60-250 and the DA*300.

Yes, some of us do have that sickness. And I think I speak for us all when I say, we're ok with it.

twitch · 05-09-2011, 09:33 PM

Most of those long lenses just mentioned are already available ....... in the form of Canon L lenses

A Canon body is not that much, if I really needed those lenses I'd be running 2 systems or switch.

gazonk · 05-09-2011, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

But the number one lens we need, of course, without a doubt, is a fast normal. 28mm f/2 or better. WR or not, who cares, it's a fast prime.

Yes, a 28mm f/2 could even be a very compact lens (the M-28/2 is quite compact), making a K-5 with such a lens perfect for walk around usage.

**rparmar** · 05-10-2011, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Yes, a 28mm f/2 could even be a very compact lens (the M-28/2 is quite compact), making a K-5 with such a lens perfect for walk around usage.

Compact fits with Pentax design goals. And so does "not excessively fast" apparently. So I think f/2 is realistic -- and completely sufficient if IQ is good from wide open. I use an old Vivitar for this purpose but would prefer Pentax had one in their own line-up.

Miserabile · 05-10-2011, 03:33 PM

2.33 crop and you get a 28-80 equivalent kit lens (same as 18-55 for APS-C).

I'm still unsure about those rumors about 1/2.33 sensor for a mirrorless from Pentax, what if is a 2.33 crop?

**maxfield_photo** · 05-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Balog

WR 8-16 would be amazing.

Amen! The main reason to get a UWA is to do landscapes, and last time I checked, it tends to rain outdoors. Unless I'm missing something, the widest weather sealed option for Pentax is the DA* 16-50mm f2.8, the equivalent of a 24-75mm on FF. That's just not wide enough for me. 12-35 is almost wide enough, and the weather sealing is a plus, but the IQ would have to be outstanding to draw my interest away from the Sigma 8-16mm.

05-10-2011, 05:44 PM	#150
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	Originally posted by Balog WR 8-16 would be amazing. Amen! The main reason to get a UWA is to do landscapes, and last time I checked, it tends to rain outdoors. Unless I'm missing something, the widest weather sealed option for Pentax is the DA* 16-50mm f2.8, the equivalent of a 24-75mm on FF. That's just not wide enough for me. 12-35 is almost wide enough, and the weather sealing is a plus, but the IQ would have to be outstanding to draw my interest away from the Sigma 8-16mm. Last edited by maxfield_photo; 05-10-2011 at 05:58 PM.

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05-07-2011, 06:00 PM	#136
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	I wish Pentax would bring out a DA*135mm f/1.8 There is no prime lens in the current production line between 100mm-200mm. On APS-C, 135mm = 200mm FF. It makes sense for them to bring it out.

05-07-2011, 08:45 PM	#137
Loren E Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington and California Posts: 274	DA* 135 F1.8 seems way too similar to DA* 50-135 F2.8 for a next lens when there are much more gaping holes to fill like a DA* 10-16 IMHO

05-08-2011, 02:10 AM	#138
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	Originally posted by Loren E DA* 135 F1.8 seems way too similar to DA* 50-135 F2.8 for a next lens when there are much more gaping holes to fill like a DA* 10-16 IMHO In what way is it way too similar? Your same logic means that the DA*55 would be too similar as well.

05-09-2011, 01:53 AM	#139
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by TOUGEFC In what way is it way too similar? Your same logic means that the DA*55 would be too similar as well. Exactly. BTW zoom's rendering is still worse than one of good prime. And 135mm of 50-135 is its weakest point. The speed sometimes matters too.

05-09-2011, 06:41 AM	#140
DaveBlack Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 441	Originally posted by Emacs Exactly. BTW zoom's rendering is still worse than one of good prime. And 135mm of 50-135 is its weakest point. The speed sometimes matters too. There are so many lenses that I would love to see before the DA12-35 and the DA25-330. A DA135/1.8 would be welcome. It will be faster than the DA50-135 and better. A DA28 or 30 f1.4 ould be a nice weather resistant normal lens. A DA8-16 would be a good wide lens. A DA135-400 would be a good long wild-life lens. The DA10-16 and the DA135-400 would pair up really well with the DA16-50 and DA50-135. Plus would give one focal lengths that are currently not available. Dave

05-09-2011, 10:50 AM	#141
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Originally posted by DaveBlack There are so many lenses that I would love to see before the DA12-35 and the DA25-330. A DA135/1.8 would be welcome. It will be faster than the DA50-135 and better. A DA28 or 30 f1.4 ould be a nice weather resistant normal lens. A DA8-16 would be a good wide lens. A DA135-400 would be a good long wild-life lens. The DA10-16 and the DA135-400 would pair up really well with the DA16-50 and DA50-135. Plus would give one focal lengths that are currently not available. Dave +1,000,000 to the first three you mentioned. The 135-400 would be less appealing to me. I would much rather see a DA* 500mm f/4. I want one, I want one, I want one. 135/1.8 would be beautiful for shooting video or portraits. Yes please, Pentax.

05-09-2011, 11:49 AM	#142
DaveBlack Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 441	Originally posted by FullertonImages +1,000,000 to the first three you mentioned. The 135-400 would be less appealing to me. I would much rather see a DA* 500mm f/4. I want one, I want one, I want one. 135/1.8 would be beautiful for shooting video or portraits. Yes please, Pentax. I would love to have both a DA135-400 for its flexibility and the DA500 for the extra reach. Then again I enjoy having both the DA60-250 and the DA300.

05-09-2011, 04:46 PM	#143
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	But the number one lens we need, of course, without a doubt, is a fast normal. 28mm f/2 or better. WR or not, who cares, it's a fast prime.

05-09-2011, 04:48 PM	#144
Balog Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 103	WR 8-16 would be amazing.

05-09-2011, 08:52 PM	#145
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Originally posted by DaveBlack I would love to have both a DA135-400 for its flexibility and the DA500 for the extra reach. Then again I enjoy having both the DA60-250 and the DA300. Yes, some of us do have that sickness. And I think I speak for us all when I say, we're ok with it.

05-09-2011, 09:33 PM	#146
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Most of those long lenses just mentioned are already available ....... in the form of Canon L lenses A Canon body is not that much, if I really needed those lenses I'd be running 2 systems or switch.

05-09-2011, 11:53 PM	#147
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by rparmar But the number one lens we need, of course, without a doubt, is a fast normal. 28mm f/2 or better. WR or not, who cares, it's a fast prime. Yes, a 28mm f/2 could even be a very compact lens (the M-28/2 is quite compact), making a K-5 with such a lens perfect for walk around usage.

05-10-2011, 04:28 AM	#148
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by gazonk Yes, a 28mm f/2 could even be a very compact lens (the M-28/2 is quite compact), making a K-5 with such a lens perfect for walk around usage. Compact fits with Pentax design goals. And so does "not excessively fast" apparently. So I think f/2 is realistic -- and completely sufficient if IQ is good from wide open. I use an old Vivitar for this purpose but would prefer Pentax had one in their own line-up.

05-10-2011, 03:33 PM	#149
Miserabile New Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3	2.33 crop and you get a 28-80 equivalent kit lens (same as 18-55 for APS-C). I'm still unsure about those rumors about 1/2.33 sensor for a mirrorless from Pentax, what if is a 2.33 crop?