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12-05-2007, 03:16 AM   #286
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QuoteOriginally posted by welshwizard645 Quote
Duhhhh! Everyone...RH is an expert - he's had his 5D for two weeks

Surely that makes him qualified to make to make these claims that the 5D is better than the K10D or anything that Pentax will ever make....

NOT!!!

Which reminds me what does Ken Rockwell have to say about the Nikon D4 and D400?


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12-05-2007, 04:24 AM   #287
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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
I'm not a legend..."I am Famous for being Well Known..."
Yeah, even my intern knows about you (who just started photography with pentax k100d). He saw your posts earlier in the year in DPR before you were unfairly dismissed

12-05-2007, 04:39 AM   #288
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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
I totally agree. Especially for the newcomers and that is why this advice...

All you new comers. Do not listen to anyone who doesn't really take photos. They like toys and cool tecky stuff, but that isn't what makes a photo a nice thing. It is the nice person holding the cool ego boosting toy that makes the photo NOT the camera. So the next time you want advice, ask someone who actually can capture something worth commenting on. Oh and one more thing...All of the new stuff is good. Some have more stuff than others do or just different stuff that makes the thing more attractive to some people than others. Not really better, but different. Considering that 99.9 percent of all users will never do a print larger than an 8x10, just find the stuff that you like because it looks good and just buy it and be assured that you made the right choice. Oh and don't forget to buy the right accessories for the new toy, like color co-ordinated bags, filters and lens cleaning cloths. We want "That" total look.

That was my Highly Evolved Technical Advice for the Day..

Than' you very much (With an Elvis Presley drawl...)
Very well said Ben and Nosnoop. I couldn't agree more.

I think that any current dslr is good enough for most people. It's just a matter of personal requirements. This, of course, is not true with RH who doesn't have personal requirements beyond Pentax bashing.

I sincerely hope that nobody who is thinking of purchasing a camera doesn't read his blog, but rather try out the cameras themselves.
12-05-2007, 04:48 AM   #289
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QuoteOriginally posted by little laker Quote
I still haven't read that blog entry, but I wanted to make a couple of points.

1. If you ever see Rice selling a used camera buy it. You just know that it's hardly used, so it'll probably be a screaming deal

And I wanted to comment on Maxington's post here.



Although it would be easy for the mods to delete all his links to his blog they'd pretty much have to delete any of our links to our blogs or web sites to keep things fair.

This would not be a good thing, since web design and blogging is part of modern photography, and several newcomers might need help with their design.

Plus he hasn't really done anything against most forum guidelines, that I've seen anyways.
So he doesn't deserve to get baned.

This is all just my opinion, and you don't have to agree with it.
I have no problems with people linking to their galleries or photoblogs, but Ricehighs does not come under that. There's no photos on there at all, and its merely other peoples tests selectively chosen to make Pentax look bad. He posts everytime he writes another opinion piece to drum up clicks. I'd be of the same opinion of anyone who posted their blog updates here, its not a site for spamming on. If we let Ricehigh do it, then everyone can.

I didn't say ban him, I said he's been banned from other forums for these reasons. Warn him or delete his blog spam.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffkrol Quote
I normally don't stoop this low but Mr. Rockwell does produce some of the fuzziest "pro" wildlife shots I've seen in a long time, short of my own fuzzy pictures... AF seems to be failing. Here you can see fuzzy otters, frogs, geese, dragonflies ect. Maybe it's just my monitor or the low rez web images. Hey when your in the public eye criticism is fair play
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Hmmm... thanks for linking to a pic. I be could funny and say the fuzziness is a Nikon feature...

but I think it's more likely the teleconverter. I have stayed away from teleconverter for fear of such loss of IQ. Is this fear ungrounded, or does this pic prove the danger of the teleconverter?

BTW, I actually like Ken's landscape stuff. Nice to see somebody still shooting (and loving) film as much as digital. I know Ken gets a rough ride in some places, but he's no RH!
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Ben I just have to say that your images are amazing. Every image you have posted displays such raw passion and intensity. I just want to thank you for sharing your talent with us.

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True. Actually, the linked Ken Rockwell animal picture looks nice to me, indeed.



Well said.

Furthermore, I often found people tend to mix fields for what a professional is specialised in, or just forget about what is the profession of the pro person. A pro photographer actually has no authority when he talks about the engineering aspects of the *craft*, but an engineer does. Reversely, an engineer who has no knowledge in photography can talk nothing about how he can use the craft to take photos, just because he don't know how to take photos, even though he may be a true specialist of CCD or CMOS circuitries and signalling, for example.

Even worse, a "pro" photographer has a board meaning again as the fields they are specialised in can be very different and the techniques and knowledge required (and type of equipment required as well) can be very different. What do you think about the differences between a studio photographer (for advertisement etc.), a nature photographer (those National Geographic, e.g.), a photo journalist for daily news, or a sport photographer and so on?
Everything RiceHigh says in this post is TRUE.

I don't understand or care to read the nonsense between the third post in this thead and the last but, he is 100% correct in his statements here and this was his first post in this thread.

If people can't understand how an engineer who specializes in optics can NOT take a picture to save their life I'll give you a perfect and personal example..

I design components for aircraft system controls. I understand every aspect of it but, I can't fly a plane.. IF I were to say I could, I'd be lying, putting your life in danger, misleading you, you name it but, nothing good would come from it I promise you.

Again - read KR's 'about me' section and read RH's blog - It's informative to the point it points out the problems as well as the praise - You need to READ, not SKIM!
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This is the thread that would not end, it just goes on and on my freind.....
somebody started reply to it not knowing what it was , then they continued reading it forever just because.......This is the thread that would not end....
( to music--- repeat ad infinitum )

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QuoteOriginally posted by Tom M Quote
Everything RiceHigh says in this post is TRUE.

I don't understand or care to read the nonsense between the third post in this thead and the last but, he is 100% correct in his statements here and this was his first post in this thread.

If people can't understand how an engineer who specializes in optics can NOT take a picture to save their life I'll give you a perfect and personal example..

I design components for aircraft system controls. I understand every aspect of it but, I can't fly a plane.. IF I were to say I could, I'd be lying, putting your life in danger, misleading you, you name it but, nothing good would come from it I promise you.

Again - read KR's 'about me' section and read RH's blog - It's informative to the point it points out the problems as well as the praise - You need to READ, not SKIM!
Actually I would really like to know WHAT he does for a living (only if relevent of course, I'm not that nosey). Care to tell me where you got that info on being a "optic specialist"?
I have serious doubts as to this being his specialty.....theres a Michael Poon who is an MD, one who is(was) a graduate student and one that works for a company called "netdefense" in Hong Kong. Don't worry it took me little of my precious time to find this all out.
As one who "specializes" in optics you would think that this would be part of his "bio" but it's pretty darn empty.
Oh yes, there's the one that collects other peoples images....
Michael Poon's Photo Galleries at pbase.com
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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffkrol Quote
Oh yes, there's the one that collects other peoples images....
Michael Poon's Photo Galleries at pbase.com
That site is quite pleasant to view. I like the fact that there are various styles of shots in there.

Thanks for sharing that
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QuoteOriginally posted by borno Quote
This is the thread that would not end, it just goes on and on my freind.....
somebody started reply to it not knowing what it was , then they continued reading it forever just because.......This is the thread that would not end....
( to music--- repeat ad infinitum )
**ROFLMAO***
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tom M Quote
Everything RiceHigh says in this post is TRUE.

I don't understand or care to read the nonsense between the third post in this thead and the last but, he is 100% correct in his statements here and this was his first post in this thread.

If people can't understand how an engineer who specializes in optics can NOT take a picture to save their life I'll give you a perfect and personal example..

I design components for aircraft system controls. I understand every aspect of it but, I can't fly a plane.. IF I were to say I could, I'd be lying, putting your life in danger, misleading you, you name it but, nothing good would come from it I promise you.

Again - read KR's 'about me' section and read RH's blog - It's informative to the point it points out the problems as well as the praise - You need to READ, not SKIM!
Using your profession as an example, RH is saying that because of a suspected, possible 1% variance in the spec of widget X47, this entire aircraft is better than this entire aircraft, which has a better widget X47. Yet he has never flown, or been in either plane.

The final functioning of a device is what matters. If a pilot who has flown both types of planes that you make parts for, and tells me this one is much safer and easier to fly, and you tell me something different based on your knowledge of a widget, well, I'm going to believe the pilot.

Or in this case, the thousands of photographers using Pentax gear.
12-05-2007, 09:49 PM   #298
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Although I read Mr. Rockwell's site with a huge gain of salt (bovine/cow lick size) he must be channeling RH -
Seven Levels of Photographers © 2005 KenRockwell.com
"Online Expert or Armchair Photographer: Level 0 (these guys don't take pictures so they aren't a level of photographer)"
Now that is funny - they should do lunch.

The problem is that RH would not understand or comprehend.

He would not appreciate the association with this site either:
Flame Warriors Home
I belong to several categories - maybe we should start a contest to categorize ourselves vs. RH and see go goes ballistic first.

The Elitist - formerly known as PDL

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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
I totally agree. Especially for the newcomers and that is why this advice...

All you new comers. Do not listen to anyone who doesn't really take photos. They like toys and cool tecky stuff, but that isn't what makes a photo a nice thing. It is the nice person holding the cool ego boosting toy that makes the photo NOT the camera. So the next time you want advice, ask someone who actually can capture something worth commenting on. Oh and one more thing...All of the new stuff is good. Some have more stuff than others do or just different stuff that makes the thing more attractive to some people than others. Not really better, but different. Considering that 99.9 percent of all users will never do a print larger than an 8x10, just find the stuff that you like because it looks good and just buy it and be assured that you made the right choice. Oh and don't forget to buy the right accessories for the new toy, like color co-ordinated bags, filters and lens cleaning cloths. We want "That" total look.

That was my Highly Evolved Technical Advice for the Day..

Than' you very much (With an Elvis Presley drawl...)
Amen to that. Creativity and a unique view on things is much more important than a full frame sensor for crying out loud. I'm happy as a clam in the mud with my "inferior" K100d, and many people enjoy my photos it helps me produce. The prints don't dissapoint either.

Here's a sample of the inferiorness that comes out of the k100d. It would have looked so much better if I had a 5d!

If you fancy a larger view: Memento Mori on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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Actually, well before I found this forum, I stumbled unto Rice Highs blog and frankly, I had to ask myself..''What is this fellow smoking?'' (no pun intended)...Frankly, this fellow does nothing but disrupt the harmony of this very cool forum and simply put...

Ban him, ban his IP addresses and off with the trolls head...
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